Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Daffodil (incubating) 2.1.0-rc3

2018-04-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Justin, I think that these files were discussed with legal affairs. I’ll let Steve explain. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 16, 2018, at 9:58 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > Ignoring the signing issues I would be +1 if the license of the files[1][2] > known and the LICE

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Daffodil (incubating) 2.1.0-rc3

2018-04-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Ignoring the signing issues I would be +1 if the license of the files[1][2] known and the LICENSE fixed in the next release. However a quick search seems to imply that the two files below [1][2] may be licensed under terms which are not compatible with the Apache license but I’m not 100%

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Daffodil (incubating) 2.1.0-rc3

2018-04-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Sorry but it -1 binding from me as I’m getting a bad signature. I downloads and rechecked and got the same issue so I don’t think it’s at my end. gpg --verify apache-daffodil-2.1.0-incubating-bin.tgz.asc gpg: assuming signed data in 'apache-daffodil-2.1.0-incubating-bin.tgz' gpg: Signature m

Re: Question about IP CLEARANCE

2018-04-16 Thread Christopher
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:16 PM, Christopher wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:28 PM Roman Shaposhnik > > wrote: > > > >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Christopher > wrote: > >>> Two questions about IP C

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Ralph Goers
> On Apr 16, 2018, at 4:22 PM, toki wrote: > > On 04/16/2018 07:37 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: >> IMO, it is inappropriate to add project managers to a project as a committer >> just because they are employed by a company that has committers who are paid >> to work on the project. > > There are s

Re: Question about IP CLEARANCE

2018-04-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:16 PM, Christopher wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:28 PM Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Christopher wrote: >>> Two questions about IP CLEARANCE: >>> >>> There is a line item in the template for making sure t

Re: Question about IP CLEARANCE

2018-04-16 Thread Christopher
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:28 PM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Christopher wrote: > > Two questions about IP CLEARANCE: > > > > There is a line item in the template for making sure that files are > updated > > to reflect ASF copyright. Must this be done before the fil

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 16, 2018, at 5:13 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: >>> ...Most places I've seen the CMS still in use was because of

Re: Question about IP CLEARANCE

2018-04-16 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Christopher wrote: > Two questions about IP CLEARANCE: > > There is a line item in the template for making sure that files are updated > to reflect ASF copyright. Must this be done before the files are actually > transferred to the receiving PMC, while still being

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:22 PM, toki wrote: >... > In theory, that sounds good, but as a practical matter, how many people > that have ever been on the ASF board of directors neither know/knew, nor > use(d) any programming languages in getting there? IOW, they got there > exclusively on their ab

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > > ...Most places I've seen the CMS still in use was because of svnpubsub, > not > > necessarily cms.a.o. We use it to commit the output from > maven-s

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Having started on a project as such a “Management" person …. > On Apr 16, 2018, at 4:22 PM, toki wrote: > > On 04/16/2018 07:37 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: >> IMO, it is inappropriate to add project managers to a project as a committer >> just because they are employed by a company that has co

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread toki
On 04/16/2018 07:37 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > IMO, it is inappropriate to add project managers to a project as a committer > just because they are employed by a company that has committers who are paid > to work on the project. There are some companies who have a person whose sole duty is manage

Question about IP CLEARANCE

2018-04-16 Thread Christopher
Two questions about IP CLEARANCE: There is a line item in the template for making sure that files are updated to reflect ASF copyright. Must this be done before the files are actually transferred to the receiving PMC, while still being hosted in the donating party's repository? It seems to me that

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Apr 16, 2018, at 1:52 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Ralph Goers > wrote: > >> >> >>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Maxime Beauchemin < >> maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> About PMs, or other "non-coding contributors", it's pretty common to have

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Ted Dunning
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > > > On Apr 16, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Maxime Beauchemin < > maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > About PMs, or other "non-coding contributors", it's pretty common to have > > them at sponsoring organizations. For example both Airbnb and L

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Ralph Goers
> On Apr 16, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Maxime Beauchemin > wrote: > > About PMs, or other "non-coding contributors", it's pretty common to have > them at sponsoring organizations. For example both Airbnb and Lyft both > have a dedicated PM for Apache Superset. While they don't write code, they > cont

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - > Another point I didn't bring up in my original email is the obsolescence of > Apache's svn binaries repository in the light of commonly used package > manager (Pypi.org for Python, npm for Javacsript, ..., Maven for Java(?) , > ...). While I understand the importance of the ASF being indep

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Maxime Beauchemin
Thanks everyone for all the input! I had not looked at https://lists.apache.org/ in a while and it looks pretty usable along with the "site:" Google trick. Thanks to those who made "Apache Mail Archives" happen! About PMs, or other "non-coding contributors", it's pretty common to have them at spo

Re: [VOTE] Retire the HTrace Podling

2018-04-16 Thread Pierre Smits
+1 Sad to see this happening. But if there is no prospect of a community to revitalize the project under the greater ASF umbrella, then there no other way to go. On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 at 16:06 Dave Fisher wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Regards, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 16, 2018, at

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 04/16/2018 07:14 PM, Gian Merlino wrote: Is there any ASF infra that would be usable for automatically running Jekyll on the master branch and pushing the results to the "asf-git" branch, where they can be served? Maybe CI/build infra, if we have that? It would provide an experience that is so

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread Gian Merlino
Is there any ASF infra that would be usable for automatically running Jekyll on the master branch and pushing the results to the "asf-git" branch, where they can be served? Maybe CI/build infra, if we have that? It would provide an experience that is somewhat like GitHub pages. On Mon, Apr 16, 201

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > ...The ASF infra just sees HTML, CSS style sheets and images... Yes, to be more precise in the standard gitpubsub setup it's only the asf-site branch of the Git repository that's published, without processing. It can even include .htaccess fil

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread Julian Hyde
Just to clarify, in case people are not familiar with Jekyll. It is a code generator that a developer runs in their sandbox, and it generates the site. The developer then checks in the site to git or svn. So, the developer has complete control over the HTML that is checked in. They can manually

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > ...Most places I've seen the CMS still in use was because of svnpubsub, not > necessarily cms.a.o. We use it to commit the output from maven-site-plugin, > javadocs, scaladocs, etc. Am I confused here?... AFAIK both svnpubsub and gitpubsub are

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread Matt Sicker
Most places I've seen the CMS still in use was because of svnpubsub, not necessarily cms.a.o. We use it to commit the output from maven-site-plugin, javadocs, scaladocs, etc. Am I confused here? On 16 April 2018 at 07:27, John D. Ament wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 7:04 AM Bertrand Delacretaz

Re: [VOTE] Retire the HTrace Podling

2018-04-16 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 (binding) Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 16, 2018, at 6:47 AM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > > +1 (binding) > > -Taylor > >> On Apr 16, 2018, at 9:28 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: >> >> +1 (binding) >> >> Ralph >> >>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 4:40 PM, lewis john mcgibbney >>> wrote: >>>

Re: [VOTE] Retire the HTrace Podling

2018-04-16 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
+1 (binding) -Taylor > On Apr 16, 2018, at 9:28 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > +1 (binding) > > Ralph > >> On Apr 11, 2018, at 4:40 PM, lewis john mcgibbney wrote: >> >> Hi Folks, >> Please excuse the error on my part, which essentially missed this important >> stage of VOTE'ing on general@ for

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Ralph Goers
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Maxime Beauchemin > wrote: > > Hi general@incubator! > > This is an email discussing the challenges we are facing while using Github > / Gitbox for our ASF project and wanted to start a thread to discuss > solutions and ways we can mitigate. > > We're very gra

Re: [VOTE] Retire the HTrace Podling

2018-04-16 Thread Ralph Goers
+1 (binding) Ralph > On Apr 11, 2018, at 4:40 PM, lewis john mcgibbney wrote: > > Hi Folks, > Please excuse the error on my part, which essentially missed this important > stage of VOTE'ing on general@ for official retirement of the HTrace Podling. > However, we are here now. The VOTE will be o

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread John D. Ament
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 7:04 AM Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:26 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > ...FWIW, Jekyll is pretty heavily used across projects > > Yes, it's good to have a suggested default for this. > > OTOH the nice thing about

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Daffodil (incubating) 2.1.0-rc3

2018-04-16 Thread Steve Lawrence
Hi all, We are still in need of a couple more +1's. I'd appreciate it if you could find some time to take a look at our release. Thanks, - Steve On 04/09/2018 07:24 PM, Steve Lawrence wrote: > The Apache Daffodil community has voted and approved the proposed > release of Apache Daffodil (incuba

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:26 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > ...FWIW, Jekyll is pretty heavily used across projects Yes, it's good to have a suggested default for this. OTOH the nice thing about the current setup is that people can use whatever tool they want to create content: from emacs^H^H^H^

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread John D. Ament
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 5:57 AM sebb wrote: > On 16 April 2018 at 10:39, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 11:20 AM, sebb wrote: > >>... Podlings can create a simple page in Git/SVN, however it won't be > >> displayed without some Infra setup to copy the html from the SCM

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16 April 2018 at 10:39, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 11:20 AM, sebb wrote: >>... Podlings can create a simple page in Git/SVN, however it won't be >> displayed without some Infra setup to copy the html from the SCM to >> the host... > > Granted but that's quite easy to

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 11:20 AM, sebb wrote: >... Podlings can create a simple page in Git/SVN, however it won't be > displayed without some Infra setup to copy the html from the SCM to > the host... Granted but that's quite easy to do from the podling's side: just push the content to the asf-si

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16 April 2018 at 09:34, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:50 AM, Greg Stein wrote: >> ...placeholder page. It should explain the situation. Provide links to >> the incubator and the podling status page, to the original/external site, >> disclaimer, etc. Just one page. Fast

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:50 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > ...placeholder page. It should explain the situation. Provide links to > the incubator and the podling status page, to the original/external site, > disclaimer, etc. Just one page. Fast set up. Done... Yes, BIG +1 to this. It's not hard to cre

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

2018-04-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone >> On Apr 15, 2018, at 11:50 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >> >> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:30 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >> >> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Dave Fisher >> wrote: >>> Hi - >>> >>> I think that a brand compliant initial podling page would not be hard to >>> creat