Re: OOo Monetary Donations

component), then the donation would have to be used exclusively for that. The change of our name reflects we are supporting not only OOo or LibO, but all free office suites. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

-deductible, we are approved as not-for-profit and as especially meritorius (besonders förderungswürdig), but thus a bit more limited in spending outside of Germany. NB: every association can decide if they want to run for it or not, so it is *not* a governmental judgement. Florian -- Florian

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

had it that OOoDeV/FrODeV paid for the trade show booth e.g. at CeBIT, while TeamOOo jumped in with travel fundings. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

, it shouldn't affect the German association that much, as their name is changed anyways, but enforcing a strict trademark policy can get hard... Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880

Re: Re-Introduction

insulting. And it really helps nobody here. Thanks. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff

Re: Re-Introduction

, and let's not get personal or insulting. It simply doesn't help anyone. Peace, Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

that: Rumors. Seems like a lot of fuzz is flowing around, at the expense of the truth. Sticking to the facts instead of listening to story-tellers is sometimes helpful. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

, but - well, I guess I made my points clear. Who recognizes them and who ignores them is, sadly, out of my scope. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

the license you favor. Creative solutions for working on the licensing issue surely exist, and Simon mentioned one of them. Setting up things in parallel is not necessarily required from my POV. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

. As said in my first mail: Do not look into the past. Look into the future. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff

Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

impressions... Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff

Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

why people state things they do. Again, I do *not* believe you are influenced. Never did so. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter

Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

/2011/06/some-remarks-on-openoffice-going-to-apache/comment-page-1/#comment-5309 it is a done deal That might create wrong impressions... == So, where did I say that Apache was influenced, or Apache was responsible? Nowhere. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering

Re: Question to TDF and its community

it make sense to join forces? Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?

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Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

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Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

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Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?

, I confirm we would not have needed any additional hardware. We have all we need, everything works like a charm and we still have lots of space and resources free. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel

Re: Question to TDF and its community

Hi, Jochen Wiedmann wrote on 2011-06-06 23.10: Niclas, several people from TDF/LO, including Florian Effenberger, have expressed their wish that the project should be accepted on this mailing list. Simple reason: They consider the alternatives (code stays within Oracle or whatever else) worse

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?

. ;) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?

://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/03/18/status-quo-on-the-foundation/ Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

on that, I'd really appreciate that. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

on the topic: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg06575.html http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg06579.html http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg06585.html Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?

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Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?

by the tax department), or the foundation currently created? Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?

impossible at all to work around that donation isuse, if there had been a will to do so. But I guess that should not be the topic of this thread. :-) More on the other mails later on, Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

will reply to the best of my knowledge. Again, I am here any happy to hear the problems you see in TDF, why you think another home is to be preferred. I am happy to hear and discuss them in public. Thanks for reading, Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?

-inclusive environment. So, if TDF does not join the Apache OOo project, a community split is our (=TDF) fault. However, if the people proposing the Apache incubator project do not join TDF, a community split is not their fault. This looks like a rather one-sided view to me. Florian -- Florian