Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

2011-06-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Hi all - I see that I'm listed as a sponsor. Can you please remove my name and replace with someone else? I never agreed to sponsor this. Sorry about any inconvenience. geir On Jun 1, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Luke Kowalski wrote: > The following project is being sent in as an incubator candidate

Re: [VOTE] Accepting Kato into the Incubator

2008-10-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
ith at uk dot ibm dot com Carmine Cristello cristallo at uk dot ibm dot com Richard Cole rich dot cole at uk dot ibm dot com Christian Glatschke christian at glatschke dot com Sonal Goyal sonalgoyal4 at gmail dot com Affiliations The initial committers listed are affiliated with IBM an

Re: JAX-WS TCK and CXF 2.0 release

2007-03-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
As long as you mark it as UNTESTED or BETA per the JAX-WS part - IOW, make no claim about compatibility, you're fine. geir On Mar 13, 2007, at 4:14 AM, Bozhong Lin wrote: Hi, Apache CXF team is planning for its 2.0 final release. In benefit of CXF users, we would like to cut 2.0 release s

Notice - Lists for River podling created

2007-01-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
All - note that the mail lists for the River podling have been created : The public lists are : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subscribe in the usual way, following the pattern : [EMAIL PROTECTED] See you there. geir --

[RESULT] Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, "River" (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-26 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Yoav No other votes cast. (I hope I didn't miss anyone). As we received an adequate number of +1 votes from Incubator PMC members, this vote passes :) I'll get the necessary infrastructure machinery going, staring with the mail lists. geir On Dec 20, 2006, at 10:46 PM, Geir Ma

Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, "River" (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Jim, I've updated the proposal in the wiki, hopefully addressing your two concerns - noting that there are no other implementations of Jini technology at the ASF, and noting that committership for the initial committers will be granted upon engagement with the project, as determined by th

Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, "River" (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Dec 21, 2006, at 11:09 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Dec 21, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Dec 21, 2006, at 9:01 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Dec 20, 2006, at 10:46 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: It is with great relief and hope that I propose that the Apache

Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, "River" (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Dec 21, 2006, at 9:01 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Dec 20, 2006, at 10:46 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: It is with great relief and hope that I propose that the Apache Incubator PMC vote to incubate a new podling, to be known as "River". You may be familiar with this project

Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, "River" (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Note - this vote will be for 3 days, ending midnight, saturday december 23rd, 2006. Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: It is with great relief and hope that I propose that the Apache Incubator PMC vote to incubate a new podling, to be known as "River". You may be familiar with this project

Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, "River" (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
+1 from me Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: It is with great relief and hope that I propose that the Apache Incubator PMC vote to incubate a new podling, to be known as "River". You may be familiar with this project as it has been discussed under other names, including Braintree and J

[VOTE] Incubate new podling, "River" (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
me: River * Project Key: RIVER (4) identify the initial set of committers * Dan Creswell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Bill Venners ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Mark Brouwer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Geir Magnusson Jr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Bob Scheifler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Jim Waldo ([EMAIL

Re: [VOTE] Publish Yoko M1 release

2006-12-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
+1 Mosur Ravi, Balaji wrote: Hi, I have fixed all the issues that were raised during the earlier vote and I have uploaded the new release at: http://people.apache.org/~bravi Also, I used the tag https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/yoko/tags/yoko-1.0-incubating -M1-release for th

Re: [VOTE][SECOND ATTEMPT] publish openjpa 0.9.6-incubating release

2006-11-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
+1 Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote: The OpenJPA incubator community voted on and has approved a proposal to release OpenJPA 0.9.6-incubating. Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy (http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases ) we would now like to req

Re: [VOTE WITHDRAWN] publish openjpa 0.9.6-incubating release

2006-11-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I don't think so. Let the podling come up with what they call 0.9.6, let it give clear information to what that means, and the incubator PMC votes from there. This is getting counterproductive. geir Patrick Linskey wrote: Hi, I agree with Marc that we should continue to iterate on the 0.

Re: [VOTE] publish openjpa 0.9.6-incubating release

2006-11-16 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
+1 Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote: The OpenJPA incubator community voted on and has approved a proposal to release OpenJPA 0.9.6-incubating. Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy (http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases ) we would now like to req

[RESULT} Re: [VOTE] Graduate Harmony to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-10-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
(transaction); getBoardApproval(transaction); transaction.commit(); } catch(RollbackException re) { continueIncubation(); } Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: The Apache Harmony community has voted to request graduation from the Incubator as a TLP. <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incuba

Harmony Vote Ending Tomorrow - Sat, October 28, 2006 - 12:00 Noon, Pacific Time

2006-10-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
if you haven't voted and are interested in voting, please do. Thanks geir - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any More Unsent Votes? (Re: [VOTE] Graduate Harmony to TLP status (pending board approval))

2006-10-26 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Anyone else? Mino started processing last night, and I want to give time for people to have a chance to vote... geir Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: The Apache Harmony community has voted to request graduation from the Incubator as a TLP. <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incuba

Re: Comment - (Was [Fwd: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members])

2006-10-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Anyway, I do realize that the discussion was two weeks ago. I just missed it. Apologies. Ignore me :) geir Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Should this really be "Shall"?

Re: Comment - (Was [Fwd: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members])

2006-10-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Should this really be "Shall"? We've been successful in Harmony with a slightly different model, where we didn't just sweep committers in except for the mentors and champi

Re: Comment - (Was [Fwd: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members])

2006-10-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Should this really be "Shall"? We've been successful in Harmony with a slightly different model, where we didn't just sweep committers in except for the mentors and champion, because we didnt' start with any code.

Comment - (Was [Fwd: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members])

2006-10-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I didn't want to mess up the vote thread... Should this really be "Shall"? We've been successful in Harmony with a slightly different model, where we didn't just sweep committers in except for the mentors and champion, because we didnt' start with any code. We treated the Initial Committer l

UPDATE - Re: [VOTE] Graduate Harmony to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-10-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
As noted in the vote email : Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Under the Incubator process, Harmony must have a destination prior to exiting incubation, which means the ASF Board must decide whether or not create a TLP for Apache Harmony prior to the Incubator vote being official. However, I suspect

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Harmony to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-10-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Cliff Schmidt wrote: On 10/24/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, I am asking for a vote of the Incubator on graduation of Harmony that is conditional on the board's approval of a TLP for that purpose. This way we don't have to

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Harmony to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-10-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Cliff Schmidt wrote: On 10/24/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, I am asking for a vote of the Incubator on graduation of Harmony that is conditional on the board's approval of a TLP for that purpose. This way we don't have to vote again after the board meet

Re: JiniProposal -> BraintreeProposal

2006-10-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
w00t! Jim Hurley wrote: Hi all- Thank you to the 134 folks who participated in the survey to help us determine a new name for the "Jini" project proposal at Apache. The results are included below. The first preference was for "aladin" (related to the "genie" theme), but unfortunately, there ar

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Harmony to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-10-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
+1 Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: The Apache Harmony community has voted to request graduation from the Incubator as a TLP. <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-harmony-dev/ 200610.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The following votes have been recorded (in order of vote

[VOTE] Graduate Harmony to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-10-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
The Apache Harmony community has voted to request graduation from the Incubator as a TLP. <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-harmony-dev/ 200610.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The following votes have been recorded (in order of votes cast) : +1 Geir Magnus

Re: Harmony graduation vote on harmony-dev

2006-10-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Greg Stein wrote: The Incubator is about verification, not participation. I think Geir is wrong in trying to lever IPMC members into more project involvement. We are here as volunteers to oversee the process, not participate in the projects. I think this is a topic for honest disagreement,

Re: voting was Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Might be nice to leave "binding-ness" as an accounting detail for the person running the vote, to get rid of the "my vote counts, yours doesn't" thing that David pointed out. After all, if you get consensus, and it's all +1s. geir Paul Fremantle wrote: David I think you are wrong. Bef

Re: Harmony graduation vote on harmony-dev

2006-10-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 10/20/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not trying hold a vote "elsewhere" - this can only happen if there is a binding vote by the Incubator - it just means you vote "over there" rather than "over here&

Re: Harmony graduation vote on harmony-dev

2006-10-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Mads Toftum wrote: On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 06:34:02PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Just so no one misunderstands this - the only way a podling can graduate is if it has enough IPMC votes. The model in mind was that there are IPMC members engaged with the community, so that it's

Re: Harmony graduation vote on harmony-dev

2006-10-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Greg Stein wrote: I was happy to give a +1 days ago. But that wasn't put on the table. Ok. I'm going to stick my neck out here, out of my comfort zone. While bringing Harmony out for graduation was never meant to be a vehicle for change, it's c

Re: Checkpoint on Harmony (Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation)

2006-10-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Last checkpoint, "Has the sponsoring PMC [e.g. Board] voted to accept the project?" You have a few hours yet to put a resolution on their plate for next week. And honestly - they would probably table it for review even if you gave them a month lead time, so might

Harmony graduation vote on harmony-dev

2006-10-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Greg Stein wrote: I was happy to give a +1 days ago. But that wasn't put on the table. Ok. I'm going to stick my neck out here, out of my comfort zone. While bringing Harmony out for graduation was never meant to be a vehicle for change, it's clear that there are opportunities where we can

Re: Checkpoint on Harmony (Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation)

2006-10-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Sam Ruby wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: IMHO - the only reason to have a project (TLP or subproject, no matter) is to release code. Anything prior to a release might be a sandbox, it might be a podling, it might be a lose alliance of the willing. Whatever...

Re: RAT

2006-10-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I just wanted to run RAT on RAT ;) geir Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 10/19/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is this something you would bring over to the ASF, and which we can start promoting around the ASF to use? To be honest, I don't believe it's a good fit. Not every projec

Forrest? Trees?

2006-10-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I'm pretty resigned to the fact that we're not going to be able to present a resolution to the board this month for Harmony. I do keep a flicker of hope, mainly because I'm an eternal optimist. I do think it's a shame, because I believe the core values sought and taught in the incubation pr

Re: Checkpoint on Harmony (Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation)

2006-10-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Greg Stein wrote: On 10/19/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Oct 19, 2006, at 3:32 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: ... > I'd like to ask that those who have asked for a release to assuage > concerns about community health and capability to please read those &g

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
robert burrell donkin wrote: On 10/19/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the source is the heart of any apache release. most issues with > releases are actually issues with the source. a community that does > not understand how to create source that can be

Re: RAT

2006-10-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Into the incubator, of course ;) geir Noel J. Bergman wrote: Robert, Is this something you would bring over to the ASF, and which we can start promoting around the ASF to use? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EM

Checkpoint on Harmony (Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation)

2006-10-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
geir Leo Simons wrote: Last e-mail on this for the day, promised! :-) Greg -- having many e-mails as threaded responses rather than a single one is useful if you have nested threading and you're only interested in part of a sub-sub-thread. Maybe gmail needs fixing :-P. In any case, here&

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I made the mistake of not responding publicly, thinking that it was just best to ignore it. I had nothing to do with it - it didn't represent any sentiment that I have, nor was I a participant in any such email conversation, or ever have been. My head has only room for one hat at a time, and

Factors for Graduation (Was Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation)

2006-10-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I'm not dismissing the importance of Greg's concern, and am not trying to take the Harmony conversation down a rat-hole (or different rat-hole in this case...), so I changed the Subject line. --- Let me take a brief side trip here about [Unwritten] Incubator Graduation Requirements Isn'

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
(I had a modified version of this yesterday, as I wanted to wait to summarize. Here it is, trimmed down) Mads Toftum wrote: On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:44:22PM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: The PPMC of the Apache Harmony incubator podling has voted to ask for graduation from the Apache

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
robert burrell donkin wrote: On 10/18/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: > On 10/18/06, Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You said that you have run Tomcat on top of Harmony. Why can't you >> produce a r

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
robert burrell donkin wrote: On 10/18/06, Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You said that you have run Tomcat on top of Harmony. Why can't you produce a release such that I can throw the Tomcat jar at it, too? Sure, it is a developer release, but it let's non-Harmony folks play with your p

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Oct 18, 2006, at 11:14 AM, Don Brown wrote: Agreed. I don't think it is fair to be making up graduation requirements right when a project is about to graduate. The graduation requirement is that a majority of the PMC members agree that a podling should be graduate

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-17 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 10:33, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >> Will you be satisfied with a vote on posting a snapshot? > > I think some Incubator PMC member wants to see a 'full release' artifact for > review. The podling should select a r

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-17 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Roy T. Fielding wrote: > On Oct 17, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >> Daniel Kulp wrote: >>> On Tuesday October 17 2006 12:44 am, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >>>> The PPMC of the Apache Harmony incubator podling has voted to ask for >>>> grad

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-17 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Daniel Kulp wrote: > On Tuesday October 17 2006 12:44 am, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >> The PPMC of the Apache Harmony incubator podling has voted to ask for >> graduation from the Apache Incubator. We have enjoyed our time here >> with you, but feel that we don't wa

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-17 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Tuesday 17 October 2006 12:44, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >> Thanks, and we look forward to your comments. To avoid cross-post >> confusion, I will forward this message to the harmony-dev list rather >> than CC. > > Amazing feat, indeed. I

Re: [VOTE] Ratify Tuscany PPMC vote to release project pom and buildtools artifacts

2006-10-16 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
+1 Jeremy Boynes wrote: > The Tuscany PPMC has voted to release a parent pom and buildtools jar > that are dependencies for a forthcoming M2 release. These would be made > available through the m2-incubating-repository to allow end users to > build source distributions of that release. In accordan

[discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-16 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
All, The PPMC of the Apache Harmony incubator podling has voted to ask for graduation from the Apache Incubator. We have enjoyed our time here with you, but feel that we don't want to overstay our welcome. We want to do our part to help make sure the ASF has more projects than the Incubator :)

Re: Wonka, Mika, and Apache

2006-09-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
There certainly is interest in Apache Harmony, as this is very much aligned to what we've already been doing for the past year and a few months. geir On Sep 27, 2006, at 5:09 AM, Chris Gray wrote: Hello guys, To introduce myself: I'm one of the original developers of the Wonka embedded

Re: [JiniProposal] Choosing a new name...

2006-09-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
While we all appreciate you inviting the community to help, I also encourage the proposers to consider choosing a name among yourselves. There's nothing wrong with that, and as it's the project you are proposing, it's natural that you can choose the name. geir Jim Hurley wrote: > Hi all- > > I

Re: [VOTE] approve the 4.0.2 release of ActiveMQ

2006-08-17 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
I gave it a cursory look, and things seem to be in order. +1 Hiram Chirino wrote: > In accordance with the incubator release procedure (see below) the > Apache ActiveMQ community has voted on and approved the 4.0.2 release > binary. > > We would now like to request the permission of the Incubat

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-16 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Jason van Zyl wrote: > > On 16 Aug 06, at 9:40 AM 16 Aug 06, Dion Gillard wrote: > >> You mean like this: >> >> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/IRC+Log+Design+Discussion+26+May+2005 >> >> > > That particular discussion had everyone who even vaguely knew what the > issue at hand was, eve

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-16 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Jason van Zyl wrote: > On 15 Aug 06, at 12:27 PM 15 Aug 06, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > >> >> >> Jan Blok wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> What could be the problem of any real-time communication medium usage >>> between some community members a

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Jukka Zitting wrote: > > I think the question boils down to the issue of what will happen to > the Jini standard now that the JDP has been closed down. It's correct > to insist in that the standard shouldn't be developed within the > implementation project if the goal is to allow independent >

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Bob Scheifler wrote: > Filip at Apache wrote: >> jini is a trademark >> directory isn't > > The question wasn't about Jini vs others. Geir said he wouldn't support > "Apache EMail" or "Apache Web", and I'd like to understand how those two > are different from "Apache Directory", "Apache Web Servi

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Jan Blok wrote: > Hi, > > What could be the problem of any real-time communication medium usage > between some community members as long as every one agrees code and > design decisions are made on the mailing list? Because the reality is that decisions are made on IRC, implicitly. It's hard to

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Bob Scheifler wrote: > Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >>> I'm extremely reluctant to start out with two podlings. >> Why? I think we are talking about two very different community dynamics. > > For the reason I stated: I don't believe we have sufficient commitments

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Bob, > > What is your concern? Can you please try to be simple and specific about > it? > > For example, what if we created [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Forget > the question of "how many podlings" --- I am simply talking about a list > related to specif

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Bob Scheifler wrote: > Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >> We have a tradition, for good reason, for not giving our projects >> "technology domain" ownership for implementations. I'd never support >> "Apache EMail" or "Apache Web". >

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 12:41 -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >> We have a tradition, for good reason, for not giving our projects >> "technology domain" ownership for implementations. I'd never support >> "Apache EMail" o

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Eelco Hillenius wrote: >> The community learns about each other in a shared, non-exclusionary >> method. Private Email/IM/IRC does NOT foster that. > > Public IRC, free for anyone to join, at a channel that is 'officially' > published/ promoted however, does. No it doesn't.It's exclusiona

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On 8/14/06, Bob Scheifler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm extremely reluctant to start out with two podlings. >> I'm not sure what "governance" you have in mind beyond the spec process, >> but I don't believe we have sufficient commitments from people to keep >>

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Bob Scheifler wrote: > Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >> However, we do have a chance here to host the governance and spec >> process for JINI. >> >> Therefore, I'd like to propose that we create two podlings, one for JINI >> governance, and one for building t

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Craig L Russell wrote: > > On Aug 13, 2006, at 7:05 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > >> As the champion for JINI, I suppose it behooves me to try and get this >> untangled. >> >> I'm not a Jini expert, but my understanding is that it is it's own spec &

Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
As the champion for JINI, I suppose it behooves me to try and get this untangled. I'm not a Jini expert, but my understanding is that it is it's own spec ecosystem. Therefore, I'm against having one project doing software implementation that is called "Jini", just as I'd be against projects like

Re: Jini?

2006-08-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > > It's an implementation of a spec. A single spec that is part of an > external spec-governing ecosystem, the JCP. "Jini" isn't a spec, it's > it's own spec ecosystem. It's not part of the JCP, for example. >

Re: Jini?

2006-08-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >> Noel J. Bergman wrote: >>> I don't know that the name is an issue at all, if Sun is willing to > transfer >>> the trademark to the ASF, as was done with SpamAssassin. The impression >>> that I h

Re: Specifications as (part of) ASF projects

2006-08-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >> Noel J. Bergman wrote: >>> Wait ... why can't a specification be a releasable, just like a >>> codebase? The only issue, as I see it, would be enforcement of >>> compliance. And Roy even put forward

Re: Specifications as (part of) ASF projects (was RE: Too many licenses? Was: [vote] Accept Glasgow)

2006-08-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
What broken mail client are you using? inline... Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Carl Trieloff wrote: > >> -> Is Apache in the business of writing and publishing specifications? <- > >> As long as Apache is not in the business of also creating >> specifications, there will be by definition some separ

Re: Jini?

2006-08-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > >> I think that instead of spinning on this lock, we should move forward >> with some other name to get things booted, and then resolve the Jini >> name issue in parallel. > > I don't know that the name is

Re: Jini?

2006-08-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
I'm going to reply to this as I found no good point in the thread. I think that instead of spinning on this lock, we should move forward with some other name to get things booted, and then resolve the Jini name issue in parallel. Clearly there's sufficient interest to see this become an Apache co

Re: [Proposal] Blaze

2006-07-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
James Strachan wrote: > I guess its a murky area legally - making similar APIs using > documentation as a guide. e.g. its quite striking how many extremely > similar APIs are in .Net and Mono to the JDK. > > FWIW there's a current practice to get around Sun's bizarre licensing > on various Java/

Re: Extensible Ajax Platform (XAP) Project Update

2006-07-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
This thread may be dead/resolved, in which case just ignore me. Cliff Schmidt wrote: > On 6/23/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The use of e-mail as the primary means for communication is part of ASF >> policy and philosophy, and we can certainly learn lessons from >> projects tha

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-07-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
David N. Welton wrote: > robert burrell donkin wrote: >> ... an idea and >> community ... > >> i was wondering whether we might widen the general incubator list to >> include >> ideas for new projects provided that they are prefixed by [idea] in the >> subject so that anyone who's not interested

Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator

2006-07-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
+1 (And I'll note now that I'm interested in participating, although can't commit the time to be a mentor right now.) Ted Leung wrote: > It seems like the discussion on Heraldry has died down, so I'd like to > call for a VOTE on accepting Heraldry into the incubator. > > In keeping with Apache p

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
It's my impression that the trademark would be donated to the ASF to avoid this problem. I'm not sure though. geir Leo Simons wrote: > On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 03:43:13PM -0400, Bob Scheifler wrote: >> Leo Simons wrote: >>> I guess this means keeping jini.org around for a long time to come, and

Re: Various

2006-06-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Craig McClanahan wrote: > On 6/22/06, Hani Suleiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I'm fairly astounded by the amount of email generated due to my name >> being on the initial committer list. > > > PS: Hani, will you *please* someday, just once, spell my name correctly so > that Google can f

Re: [PROPOSAL] CeltiXfire Project

2006-06-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Hani is a good guy. He really understands technology, he's honest, he's open and he has a utterly wicked and warped sense of humor. I count him as a friend of mine, and I certainly have no problem with him becoming a committer for CeltixFire. BileBlog is satire with almost always a grain of trut

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
no, I'm still at Intel. :) > >> * Mentor >> - Geir Magnusson Jr. > > Lately popular opinion seems to be that it'd be good if there were at least > three mentors. Any others? The snippet you quoted is bait :) We figured that we'd have people volunteering once

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
With the additional request that when discussion is over and it comes for a vote, a copy of what is being voted in be submitted in the email calling for the vote. gier Paul Querna wrote: > General Comments: > Is it possible to put this proposal onto the wiki ( > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/

Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve ActiveMQ 4.0 Release (new binary)

2006-06-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
+1 from me as well. Sorry. geir James Strachan wrote: > Passed with +1s from jstrachan, jim, jvanzyl, brianm and no -1s. > > Many thanks to all those who responded to the plethora of emails to > get the release distro into good shape :) > > On 6/5/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Incubator to sponsor and accept Abdera for incubation

2006-06-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
+1 Sam Ruby wrote: > This proposal seems to have generated a lot of geniune interest, so now > I'm calling for a vote for the Incubator to formally accept it. > > A few editorial comments: at this point, I have little doubt that this > codebase will attract a diverse and sustainable community.

Re: The Process of New Committers

2006-05-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Leo Simons wrote: On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 09:02:42PM -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote: When a PPMC decides to vote, it should post a note to the Incubator PMC to let the PMC as a whole know about the vote. This is new to me. You mean before the vote, after the vote, before results are announced,

Re: Please change Open JPA to OpenJPA

2006-05-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
apache.org) Garrett Rooney wrote: On 5/8/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: done Everyone will have to re-check out at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa No need to recheckout, you can just

Re: Please change Open JPA to OpenJPA

2006-05-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
done Everyone will have to re-check out at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa geir Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Oh - it's in SVN too... since there's nothing there except the README I put there to test, I'll move that now. geir Dain Sundstrom wrote: Just t

Re: Please change Open JPA to OpenJPA

2006-05-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
will be changed once the project graduates from the incubator, so I don't see it as an issue. Craig On May 8, 2006, at 1:33 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: I don't understand the problem. The project is "OpenJPA". The wiki is "OpenJPA". The project proposal, whic

Re: Please change Open JPA to OpenJPA

2006-05-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
I don't understand the problem. The project is "OpenJPA". The wiki is "OpenJPA". The project proposal, which everyone agreed to, had open-jpa-dev in it, so it was created that way. Do you all think that it's a killer problem to have that hypen in the list name when everything else is "OpenJ

Re: licensing issues in clucene

2006-05-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 4/30/06, Cliff Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: being able to dual-license their contributions to GPL and Apache. I believe there was a fairly strong consensus against it, including from one or more ASF board members. Others may remember the details better. We

Re: Open JPA Mail Lists and SVN Created

2006-05-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
I ran down to find dinner... The other mentors are on svn ACL, and you know what to do re ppmc list - I figured I didn't need to mention that That said, there is a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. The membership is restricted to Incubator PMC members, mentors and PPMC members (which will be all

Open JPA Mail Lists and SVN Created

2006-05-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
I created the lists for Open JPA : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to subscribe to either, please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] respectively and respond to the challenge message. There is a basic STATUS file in place, and an entry in the pro

Re: Status Report for Harmony

2006-04-17 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Leo Simons wrote: (please drop harmony-dev from the CC list on replies. Thanks!) Hi Noel, Sorry for the lack of report for harmony so far (BTW, we should probably get Marvin to send out automated reminders to relevant (P)PMCs too, it should save you some nagging effort). The wiki is currently

Re: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "March2006"

2006-04-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Only because I was lazy and weak, saw the commit message from the wiki when Bruce updated. I then clicked on the link that was in that email, did my update, and then submitted. IOW, it's all Bruce's fault. :D geir Noel J. Bergman wrote: Bruce, No worries, but please go update the April20

Re: Can't commit

2006-04-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
I would have come up with something more interesting... NoTSignificantlyProvablybEterComparedtoTheglorifiedpRogramloaderitrEplaces or -ish :) geir Erik Hatcher wrote: On Apr 11, 2006, at 4:29 PM, George Aroush wrote: Btw, Lucene.Net is been referred to as "Lucene.Net" and not "Lucene.NET" N

Re: Can't commit

2006-04-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
hen use 'svn up' to update the site after you've committed a new version. Doug George Aroush wrote: I am not sure how. Is there an XML file/template associated with this HTML? If so, where is it? Thanks! -- George -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr

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