to check due to a lot of 3rd party files
- didn’t try to compile
I also think the project need to update LICENSE/NOTICE and move towards using
the standard disclaimer.
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committers.
> There are too many options now which makes this version of incubation too
> complex.
Thanks for the feedback I’ll see if I can simplify that or group them.
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I made a few improvements (you many need to to a shift refresh to get the
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due to lack of interest in the project
- Graduation
To graduate, you'll need to add 3 committers and make 3 releases.
The committer journey game [1] is a little more complex internally.
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ate interest to attract new committers, vote them in, or even lower the
commuter bar to make it easier to attract committers rather than just producing
new code.
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> foundation and incubator.
>
> My favorite part of the game is when you keep clicking on “work on the
> code” and the months pass by with no releases or new committers.
>
> Good thinking and +1 to you, Justin.
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 5:07 PM Justin Mclean
>
Hi,
Maybe some of the Twinery comments could be displayed, or the mentor output
> displayed in a div on the page without having to click there separately?
>
That was done on purpose to show you need to engage with your mentors.
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>
be displayed, or the mentor output
> displayed in a div on the page without having to click there separately?
>
> Also - you're missing filing incubator reports, I think?
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 3:07 PM Justin Mclean
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> >
> > A work in pro
, the output is compatible
with the Apache license if anyone was wondering.
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The report has been edited so it is now malformed I’ve reverted it to a
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Hi,
Podlings that are expected to report are:
Baremaps
Kie
Marvin-AI
Nemo
Nlpcraft
Opendal
Pagespeed
Spot
Toree
Training
Uniffle
Wayang
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convenience.”
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-- Report submitted to Board
Wed March 15 -- Board meeting
Reports can be submitted here [1].
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For top level project the ASF requires a minimum of 3 PMC member to provide
oversight. is there someone else you think can help in providing oversight and
manage the direction of the project?
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?
Who would be the initial list of committers for the project? If this is small,
the project may have trouble making ASF releases.
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It looks like Spark may have incorrectly added that header. You could ask them
why it was added perhaps or just leave it as is.
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some discussion
why “DataLab” may not be suitable as it s too generic and many other products
use that name. Also given recent discussions about the use of the Apache name
(which you may not be aware of) I wonder if branding the project branding
strongly as "Apache DataLab
Hi,
If you feel you need to go though the Incubator we'll accept the project.
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2023, 7:48 pm Yu Li, wrote:
> Thanks all for the interest.
>
> Paimon is already a sub-project of Apache Flink [1], and yes we intend to
> graduate as its own Top L
not yours. I
wonder if you need an ASF header on [1]. The ASF header states "Licensed to the
Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more contributor license
agreements." is this true for this file?
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./common/src/main/java/org/apache/celeborn
Hi,
Given that most of the people involved are familiar with the ASF and how
projects should operate, I wonder if you should not just become a subproject of
Fink or a separate TLP? Are there any reasons you think the project needs to go
through incubation?
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Justin
- Looking at the discussion about the project's name and what name has been
approved, I'll note that your logo doesn't reflect that. Given recent
discussions around the Apache name, the currency name and trademark may be a
little problematic in the future.
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+1 (binding)
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are you plans to grow
the community?
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I ‘m sorry but this vote has not passed yet. you need 3 +1 votes from IPMC
members.
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> On 23 Feb 2023, at 4:25 am, Sergey Kamov wrote:
>
> NLPCraft-ers,
> The vote for Apache NLPCraft (incubating) release version 1.0.0 is closed
> now.
> Vote resul
anslating an algorithm
from one language to another does not change its license.
> And we keep the origin comments.
Which is also an IP issue.
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In general porting a file from one language to another would not change the
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ere anything else that affects what appears in a jar's META-INF
> LICENSE and NOTICE?
Including code of other Apache projects could effect your NOTICE file. [2]
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<https://infra.apache.org/licensing-howto.html#
Hi,
Those jars are likely to have different LICENSE and NOTICE files so I would
suggest you vote on both at the same time.
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> Do you mean that: all frontend dependencies' licenses need to included in
> binary license file ( /LICENSE), right?
Just a note it’s not all dependancies that need to be listed but only what is
included in the release see [1]
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It depends if the 3rd party library has a NOTICE file or not. [1]
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n the software to the
ASF (usually via a software grant).
- Guava is 3rd party software so it needs to be mentioned in LICENSE.
- Guava is not an ASF project so its header would have a copyright line
This will probably help [1]
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header, and not change it even if you make modifications to the
code.
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. The policy [1] does list
some files that don’t require a header but pom files are not in that list. [2]
However given the files are autogenerated they would probably not be covered by
copyright and not need a header.
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1. https://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html
2. https
Hi,
> 2. NOTICE is OK but I’m not sure if the maven wrapper code is included in
> the source release?
>
> the maven wrapper code is not included in the source code[1]
Then why is it mention in the NOTICE file?
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compile from source
The last RC mentioned other 3rd party software in the source release - has it
been removed?
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1. ./streampark-console/streampark-console-webapp/public/resource/fonts
2. https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Poppins/about
3. https://www.apache.org/legal
leborn/common/network/util/LimitedInputStream.java
> is based on LimitedInputStream.java from Google Guava
> Copyright (C) 2007 The Guava Authors”
No license information goes in LICENSE not NOTICE, and the Google Guava file
doesn’t have a NOTICE file that I can see.
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Justin
1. ht
Hi,
>1. [1] is copied and modified from Apache spark[2], we didn't
> modify the headers.
Apache Spark has a NOTICE file, you’ll need to work out what parts need to be
added to your NOTICE file.
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HI,
+1 (binding)
I checked:
- incubating in name
- signatures and hashes are fine
- disclaimer exists
- LICENSE and NOTICE are fine
- No unexpected binary files
- All ASF files have ASF headers
- Not on a supported platform to check if it compiles
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other 3rd party code in
the release?
- NOTICE is OK (but may need additional text if those 3rd party bits of code
include a NOTICE file)
- All files have ASF headers
- No unexpected binary files
- Can compile from source
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1.
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stance [1]. Not that in this case it
is Dual licensed and you should select which license applies. Hint don’t pick
the GPL one.
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1.
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o pass IP clearance. What most projects do itis
identify all contributors to the code base and have them, if possible, sign
ICLAs.
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d non-automated ways to
link, embed.” It would be best to ask on legal discuss about this.
For instance this license has been considered Category X. [1]
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I’ll also note you only got 2 +1 binding votes according to the names in your
PPMC roster. [1] I assume Warren Chen might be Yingchu Chen? To be clear you
should use the names on your roster.
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text of bundled 3rd party software needs to be included
- NOTICE repeats Information from LICENSE there is no need to do this
- It is unclear how these files are licensed [3-22]
- No unexpected binary fils
- I don’t have a setup for setting if it compiles
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o your LICENSE file. [3]
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3.
./computer-core/src/main/java/org/apache/hugegraph/computer/core/util/StringEncoding.java
4.
./hugegraph-core/src/main/java/org/apache
Hi,
+1 (binding)
I checked:
-incubating in name
- signatures and hashes are fine
- DISCLAIMER exists (WIP)
- LICENSE and NOTICE look good
- all source fils have headers
- no unexpected binary files
- I didn’t try to compile
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- LICENSE is OK for WIP disclaimer
- NOTICE has incorrect year
- All files have ASF headers
- No unexpected binary files
- did not have setup to check if this can compile
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Pekko was recently accepted as it was seen that the owner made a hostile
license change. If the current owner of the code base is not acting in the best
interest of the wider community, then that might be a reason for it to be
considered.
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Justin
P. It is expected that an incubating project will
use the plain DISCLAIMER before graduation.
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With the 3 people you list who voted, it hard to tell who David is and there is
no David on your PPMC.
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Hi,
The voting is not closed until you get the 3 +1 (and more +1 than -1) IPMC
votes, I’m not seeing 3 +1 votes here.
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Hi,
You may want to consider using a DISCLAIMER-WIP [1] until these issues are
sorted.
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1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-469
CENSE is not correct as the please contains 33rd party code e.g [5]
"Copyright 2015 the original author or authors."
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1. ./climatology/clim/orig/C/gaussinterp_C_code.tar
2. ./climatology/clim/orig/Fortran/armstrong_interp_code.tar
3. ./docs/conf.py
4. ./gradle
votes on the podling's list, that may indicate a community issue. Either you
need to find more PPMC members or try and engage existing ones.
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HI,
For those who don’t know StreamPipes is already a TLP so there's no need for
more votes.
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Hi,
it may be best to let the IPMC to discuss this before holding a vote (although
I don’t see any issues).
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Hi,
The following projects have yet to submit a report:
Celeborn
Heron
Marvin-AI
Toree
Training
Tuweni
And these reports still need mentor signoff:
NLPCraft
PageSpeed
Sedona
Teaclave
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quired ICLAs.
>
> @Justin Mclean <mailto:justinmcl...@me.com> - if you or anyone else has any
> guidance on how to deal with this case please instruct me otherwise.
Just have them sign ICLAs, in some cases their employer may require a CCLA. [1]
Details on how to add committers are here [
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e and did a "find . -size +1000k” and the
jar is the first file to pop up.
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not try to compile
I also note that [1] is licensed under the GPLv2 license which is not allowed
to be included in an ASF release.
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1.
./integration-tests/kyuubi-jdbc-it/src/test/resources/mysql/mysql-connector-java-8.0.30.jar
Hi,
There doesn’t seem to be any objection in changing this, so consider it changed.
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. ./scripts/*.sh
- No unexpected binary files
- unable to compile from source - but it likely my environment (on OSX)
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.
Teaclave has enough active PPMC members to continue.
Toree had some response, but doesn’t have enough PPMC members IMO to continue.
Sent email to their dev list to gauge interest in continuing.
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Hi,
> As Milagro's October report wasn't signed off by our mentors, I was expecting
> to be asked to submit again in November (as mentioned in the October report)
> but don't see our name below.\
Feel free to submit a report.
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I would perhaps change the headers to be the 3rd party ASF header with the
copyright line to make it clear each file is under the Apache license.
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header once major modification have been made. [1]
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those new PPMC members.
A VOTE is probably not required but is helpful to confirm consensus. I would
write an email to the general list containing who will be added to the Livy
PPMC. iI there are no objections by any IPMC members after 72 hours add them.
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Report submitted to Board
Wed November 16 Board meeting
Expected to report are:
Baremaps
Celeborn
Devlake
Heron
Kvrocks
Linkis
Livy
Marvin-ai
NLPcraft
Pagespeed
Ponymail
Sdap
Sedona
Spot
Streampark
Teaclave
Toree
Training
Tuweni
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HI,
I don’t mean to dampen anyone's enthusiasm, but NuttX probably doesn’t need a
lot of help to graduate, but there are other podlings that do need more help.
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> podlings to graduate.
The report explicitly asks for "Three most important unfinished issues to
address before graduating” I’m not sure how much clearer we could be?
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uirements for
> graduation ] at various timelines, and whether projects are ahead/behind
> 'schedule’.
I like the idea but it might hard to gauge - the Incubator podling reports does
have a general progress indicator.
Kind
9 trademark registrations containing the
> >> phrase
> >> > > “pekko”. All
> >> > > > > > > > results were “pekko” compounded with other phrases.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > *Orphaned products*
> >> > >
ors can help.
> Maybe this is a simple report to see how long they have been incubating
> though?
We have reports that do mention how old a podling is so that is visible.
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of these projects, it would be great if you could
encourage the project to exist from the Incubator. If you are one of these
projects and your mentors are no longer engaged, please get in touch, and we’ll
see what we can do to help you.
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There is no need for the 3 day wait anymore
On Tue, 18 Oct 2022, 6:14 pm tison, wrote:
> I noticed that Justin has sent a NOTICE:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/8ftfqgmq1tztdb6fwvmg9obckp7nbpbo
>
> Generally, you will be added to the IPMC in three days.
>
> Best,
> tis
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Madhawa is an IPMC member.
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and have been incubating
for far too long.
But taking a step back what can we do to make projects life though the
incubator shorter? Would having more resources help? (If so what resources?)
What else might we be able to do - offer training for instance?
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.
There is also no concept as an emeritus PPMC member at the ASF.
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makeup on graduation
and in several cases asked to make changes, so I think we can cover any issues
at that point.
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-in is probably fine, I think you
should leave existing committers as they are and not remove anyone unless they
asked to be removed.
- Existing PPMC members who don’t explicitly opt-out should be able to rejoin
the PPMC later if they ask.
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here as well, but this would very rarely occur. The
IPMC can remove people from the PPMC if they were inappropriately added.
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> reason
> for the change for PMC wait period?
There been a few conversations on the board list, the last (I believe) was this
one. [1]
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If a podling can’t get sign-off from their mentors (and this continually
happens) then they need to find and/or replace their existing mentors.
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> I can sign the report, but it's an empty one for now. I will write a
> report with action plan next month.
I don’t think there any point in signing a blank report.
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• Marvin-AI
• Milagro
• Spot
• Teaclave
• Toree
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Hi,
Just a note, poddlings do not go to the attic, only top level projects do. Most
often a podling in this state will continue to live on GitHub as long as there
is a community to support it.
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Justin
Hi,
> Apologies RE Flagon reporting. Just missed the window for SEPT. I have added
> a report for OCT and requested Mentor review earlier.
You still have a couple of day in which you could submit it.
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+1 (binding) - best of luck!
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Hi,
There is no issue in having a project that does something similar as another
project, that in itself is no reason to vote -1. It is useful to discuss
overlap and perhaps work out were projects could complement each other or even
if possible reuse code.
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HI,
How will the existing web site and domain be managed? [1]
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HI,
To be clear, this doesn’t need to be solved right now, but the project needs a
plan to resolve these issues. i.e. replace the dependencies or some other
action. What is decided may also impact your first ASF release and how long it
takes to do that.
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Justin
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