Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2018-03-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Craig, On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 9:11 PM, Craig Russell wrote: > ...I hope that this thread will inform future situations where a CCLA/SGA > is descriptive but not extremely detailed Thank you for your clarifications, they help make this archived thread more useful. -Bertrand -

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2018-03-02 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Bertrand, > On Mar 1, 2018, at 10:20 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > Hi Craig, > > On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 1:19 AM, Craig Russell wrote: >> I apologize for coming late to this discussion, but longstanding policy >> is to accept either SGA or CCLA that identifies the contribution to the

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2018-03-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Craig, On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 1:19 AM, Craig Russell wrote: > I apologize for coming late to this discussion, but longstanding policy > is to accept either SGA or CCLA that identifies the contribution to the > satisfaction of the contributor So IIUC this means you agree with the way this

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2018-03-01 Thread Craig Russell
I apologize for coming late to this discussion, but longstanding policy is to accept either SGA or CCLA that identifies the contribution to the satisfaction of the contributor. We don't try to second-guess the intent of the grantor. We assume that their own counsel have reviewed the grant. Some

Re: [RESULT][IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2018-02-19 Thread Karl Pauls
As we waited another 72 hours and no -1 has been cast the ip clearance has been accepted and we will proceed to incorporate the code in Felix. regards, Karl On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Karl Pauls wrote: > Great! > > I think we can just resume this vote. I updated the ip-clearance form > a

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2018-02-14 Thread Karl Pauls
Great! I think we can just resume this vote. I updated the ip-clearance form and will wait another 72 hours. If no -1 is cast within the next 72 hours I will wrap it up and we will accept the contribution into Felix. regards, Karl On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 12:50 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > Yes,

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2018-02-13 Thread John D. Ament
Yes, an ICLA on file should suffice. John On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:07 PM Karl Pauls wrote: > John, > > we have an ICLA for Jessica now. > > However, Intel is maintaining the position that it shouldn't be > required to identify the software granted in detail but rather stating > the top-level p

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2018-02-13 Thread Karl Pauls
John, we have an ICLA for Jessica now. However, Intel is maintaining the position that it shouldn't be required to identify the software granted in detail but rather stating the top-level project it is granted to should be sufficient. Furthermore, they argue that they have done that many times ov

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2017-12-14 Thread Karl Pauls
John, yeah, I see that the schedule B is somewhat lacking. Oh well, ok, so basically we are fine with a CCLA but in this case we don't think the provided one is explicit enough (plus we want an ICLA for Jessica Marz). I'll let them know and get back to this thread when there is either an SGA or a

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2017-12-14 Thread John D. Ament
Karl, I just read the CCLA that was filed. I do not believe it is clear enough in the schedule B that it contains to conclude what is meant to be included. Since you're a chair, you should have access to it at https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/documents/cclas/intel-corporation-felix.pdf Typi

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2017-12-14 Thread Karl Pauls
John, it might typically be an SGA but it does say: "This grant can either be done by the ASF Corporate CLA (via Schedule B) or the Software Grant Agreement". Should we change that wording then? Anyways, I will follow-up with Intel via Jessica and let them know that the provided Corporate CLA isn

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2017-12-14 Thread John D. Ament
Karl, If the code is already Apache licensed, then I would check w/ secretary@ or legal-discuss@ to confirm what documents need to be in place to remove the Intel copyright claim (typically those would go in to the NOTICE file for Apache Felix going forward). This is typically done as an SGA [1].

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2017-12-14 Thread Karl Pauls
Hi John, the code has been available as AL with the Intel copyright already (the license headers in the files are unchanged). It is mainly an attempt to get it contributed to Apache Felix. I told them we need the following (from the incubator ip-clearance form): "A software grant must be provided

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2017-12-14 Thread John D. Ament
Karl, CCLA [1] is just a document indicating that the corporate entity has given approval for individuals associated to it to contribute to Apache under ICLAs. It really doesn't provide any legal bearing to relicense code outside of an ICLA/SGA. Usually when projects come to us with an IP cleara

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2017-12-14 Thread Karl Pauls
Hi John, as far as I understand the situation, the contribution has been submitted by Jessica Marz on behalf of Intel. The copyright is entirely Intel and the CCLA received is _from_ Intel, covering Jessica Marz and the contribution. Does that help? regards, Karl On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:54 AM

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2017-12-13 Thread John D. Ament
Hello, Can you please clarify whether only a CCLA was received, or if ICLAs/SGA were received as well? The document indicates a CCLA was received from an individual, which doesn't sound right. John On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM Karl Pauls wrote: > Hi, > > the Apache Felix project has receiv

[IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension

2017-12-12 Thread Karl Pauls
Hi, the Apache Felix project has received the contribution of the Bundle Archive File Installer Extension. - The code is attached to FELIX-5732 [0]. - The IP Clearance form has been committed [1]. - The acceptance vote has passed on the dev@felix malining list [2]. The clearance passes by lazy c