On 11/29/2010 06:08 PM, Santiago Gala wrote:
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Ian Roughley rough...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd like to add to what Soren said: we've discussed whether we should
include the protocol and the
implementation of the protocol in the proposal. What we concluded, is that
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Dan Peterson dpeter...@google.com wrote:
(...)
To keep things moving, I'd like to go ahead and put this proposal to a vote
starting on Tuesday on the west coast of the US (roughly 24 hours from now).
I want to get some information about an issue that, like the
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Santiago Gala santiago.g...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Dan Peterson dpeter...@google.com wrote:
(...)
To keep things moving, I'd like to go ahead and put this proposal to a vote
starting on Tuesday on the west coast of the US (roughly 24
I'd like to add to what Soren said: we've discussed whether we should include
the protocol and the
implementation of the protocol in the proposal. What we concluded, is that
having everything
together would be the simplest for the time being... although I don't think
anyone in the discussion
On 11/25/2010 07:35 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Simple review: the original email was sent by Dan Peterson from his
google.com address. I imagine that if Google had a problem with it,
then he wouldn't be working there tomorrow
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Ian Roughley rough...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/25/2010 07:35 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
So, I think there's an underlying issue here that hasn't been brought up yet.
And from the many
discussion with Dan, I think it's Google's fault :-)
I just want a leveled
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Ian Roughley rough...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd like to add to what Soren said: we've discussed whether we should include
the protocol and the
implementation of the protocol in the proposal. What we concluded, is that
having everything
together would be the
: [PROPOSAL] Accept Wave for incubation
The word Wave is far more generic than TrafficServer, Lucene or
Hadoop.
When I did a search through the trademark database I found 62
trademarks on
the word wave. There are others that contain the word wave one of
which is
Google's Google Wave
+1
Mike
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Dan Peterson dpeter...@google.com wrote:
Hello all,
We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
The draft proposal is available at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
(for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 01:35, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote:
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Simple review: the original email was sent by Dan Peterson from his
google.com address. I imagine that if Google had a problem with it,
then he wouldn't
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Bernd Fondermann
bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote:
PS: It would've been much better to first [DISCUSS] the proposal
before putting it up for vote.
I don't see a [VOTE] here.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:26, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Bernd Fondermann
bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote:
PS: It would've been much better to first [DISCUSS] the proposal
before putting it up for vote.
I don't see a [VOTE]
On Nov 26, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
I wouldn't stop the proposal, though. This can be identified as an
issue to be solved in Incubation - either by changing the name away
from 'Wave' or by transferring marks or even by determining that none
of both is required.
Exactly,
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:07 +0100, Bernd Fondermann
bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 01:35, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote:
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Simple review: the original email was sent by Dan Peterson
On Nov 26, 2010, at 4:07 AM, Bernd Fondermann bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com
wrote:
I wouldn't stop the proposal, though. This can be identified as an
issue to be solved in Incubation - either by changing the name away
from 'Wave' or by transferring marks or even by determining that none
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote:
Yet, we have in the past had similar situations, where we have not
allowed this kind of position. In the end, you are now encouraging
that Apache WAVE, Google WAVE and Niclas WAVE are totally fine,
possibly not the same
- Original Message
From: Tad Glines tad.gli...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Fri, November 26, 2010 9:47:33 AM
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Accept Wave for incubation
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote:
Yet, we have
On Nov 26, 2010, at 7:05 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
- Original Message
From: Tad Glines tad.gli...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Fri, November 26, 2010 9:47:33 AM
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Accept Wave for incubation
The word Wave is far more generic than
Yes,
might even be able to persuade my employer to let me slice out some time, but
even it I cant help actively, very interested.
Ian
On 24 Nov 2010, at 18:15, Dan Peterson wrote:
Ian,
Cool -- I imagine this project could be rather useful for some of your
education projects.
-Dan
On
Sounds good :-)
On Nov 24, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
Hi Andrus,
Thanks for your support. I think this'll be a good home for Wave to grow and
mature.
I've taken the liberty of adding you on the mentor list. :)
Cheers,
-Dan
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Andrus
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Simple review: the original email was sent by Dan Peterson from his
google.com address. I imagine that if Google had a problem with it,
then he wouldn't be working there tomorrow :-D ... or if this was some
kind of spurious
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 22:45, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:47, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
wrote:
...
OK - Have they
On 24 Nov 2010, at 4:29 , Michael MacFadden wrote:
I agree, there are other wave implementations popping up, some of which
include wave in the name and some don't. Lightwave for example is one
such project. I think that Apache Wave and the Wave in a Box product should
be fine.
Lightwave? http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/
No, he's referring to Torben Weis' lightwave:
http://code.google.com/p/lightwave/
--
Chris
iotawave.org
Singapore
+1
I am so happy that after all considerations and suggestions that were floated
in the Wave community, you guys picked Apache as the place to develop Wave
community and WIAB. Good luck and let me know if you need extra mentors (you
already have 4, so I figured you are covered and didn't add
+1 (non-binding)
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Andrus Adamchik
and...@objectstyle.org wrote:
+1
I am so happy that after all considerations and suggestions that were floated
in the Wave community, you guys picked Apache as the place to develop Wave
community and WIAB. Good luck and let
+1
Regards, Ate
On 23/11/10 21:16, Dan Peterson wrote:
Hello all,
We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
The draft proposal is available at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
(for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below)
A wave is a hosted, live,
+1
@Dan if you need one more mentor, you could count me in.
Vincent
2010/11/23 Dan Peterson dpeter...@google.com:
Hello all,
We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
The draft proposal is available at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
(for your
+1
Would be happy to help of you need any (and if I can find time)
Ian
On 23 Nov 2010, at 20:16, Dan Peterson wrote:
Hello all,
We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
The draft proposal is available at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
(for your
+1 (non-binding)
Cheers
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Dan Peterson dpeter...@google.com wrote:
Hello all,
We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
The draft proposal is available at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
(for your convenience, a
The lightwave project I was referring to is over at google code:
http://code.google.com/p/lightwave/
~Michael
On Nov 24, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
On 24 Nov 2010, at 4:29 , Michael MacFadden wrote:
I agree, there are other wave implementations popping up, some of which
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Dan Peterson dpeter...@google.com wrote:
Hello all,
We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
The draft proposal is available at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
(for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below)
+1
(a
Hi Andrus,
Thanks for your support. I think this'll be a good home for Wave to grow and
mature.
I've taken the liberty of adding you on the mentor list. :)
Cheers,
-Dan
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Andrus Adamchik and...@objectstyle.orgwrote:
+1
I am so happy that after all
Ian,
Cool -- I imagine this project could be rather useful for some of your
education projects.
-Dan
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 3:41 AM, Ian Boston i...@tfd.co.uk wrote:
+1
Would be happy to help of you need any (and if I can find time)
Ian
On 23 Nov 2010, at 20:16, Dan Peterson wrote:
Hello all,
We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
The draft proposal is available at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
(for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below)
A wave is a hosted, live, concurrent data structure for rich communication.
It can be
On Nov 23, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
Hello all,
We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
Did Google have any trademarks on Wave and are they allowing them to be
transferred to the ASF?
Ralph
On 11/23/2010 04:44 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
On Nov 23, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
Hello all,
We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
Did Google have any trademarks on Wave and are they allowing them to be
transferred to the ASF?
Certainly looks like they
On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Leif Hedstrom wrote:
On 11/23/2010 04:44 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
On Nov 23, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
Hello all,
We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
Did Google have any trademarks on Wave and are they allowing them to
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.comwrote:
On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Leif Hedstrom wrote:
On 11/23/2010 04:44 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
On Nov 23, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
Hello all,
We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.comwrote:
On Nov 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, David Wang wrote:
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Ralph Goers
ralph.go...@dslextreme.comwrote:
On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Leif Hedstrom wrote:
On 11/23/2010 04:44 PM,
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:47, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
...
OK - Have they explicitly OK'd Apache Wave? While Apache Wave would
certainly be unique to Apache, if Google intends to keep using Google Wave
(and Wave as a shorthand) this would get very confusing.
Don't you
I agree, there are other wave implementations popping up, some of which include
wave in the name and some don't. Lightwave for example is one such
project. I think that Apache Wave and the Wave in a Box product should be fine.
Also, as Dan points out Google Wave product is going to cease to
On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:47, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
...
OK - Have they explicitly OK'd Apache Wave? While Apache Wave would
certainly be unique to Apache, if Google intends to keep using Google Wave
(and Wave as a
I work for Google and I speak on the behalf of the Google Wave team. I
can assure you that Google supports the Apache Wave proposal. We
always wanted to transfer ownership of the open source code to the
developer community and, with the discontinuation of development of
Google Wave as a standalone
Thanks. That answers my only concern. I think this would be a great addition.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Soren Lassen so...@google.com wrote:
I work for Google and I speak on the behalf of the Google Wave team. I
can assure you that Google supports the Apache Wave
Ralph,
Your due diligence is appropriate and appreciated. Thanks.
~Michael
On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:20 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
Thanks. That answers my only concern. I think this would be a great addition.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Soren Lassen so...@google.com
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 22:45, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:47, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
wrote:
...
OK - Have they explicitly OK'd Apache Wave? While Apache Wave would
certainly be
Would love to see Google Wave at Apache. I was very excited when
Google once announced it.
About trademark: there was an Adobe Wave before Google Wave announced
its service. I am not afraid of any trademark issues, when there is an
Apache Wave.
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Soren Lassen
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