Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-25 Thread Leo Simons
On May 23, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Santiago Gala wrote: Is it that we have identified a new issue that actually affects _all_ Maven based releases, not just Shindig? No not necessarily. You can use maven to produce binary releases that have all the required legal details inside of them; it just

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-23 Thread Leo Simons
On May 21, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Upayavira wrote: I am a mentor for Shindig, but I am aware of a weaknesses of mine as a mentor is that I'm not that knowledgeable or experienced with the release process at Apache, and therefore have not followed this thread in detail, which I really should have. It

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-23 Thread Santiago Gala
El sáb, 23-05-2009 a las 21:02 +0200, Leo Simons escribió: On May 21, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Upayavira wrote: I am a mentor for Shindig, but I am aware of a weaknesses of mine as a mentor is that I'm not that knowledgeable or experienced with the release process at Apache, and therefore have not

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-22 Thread Santiago Gala
El jue, 21-05-2009 a las 07:03 -0400, Upayavira escribió: I am a mentor for Shindig, but I am aware of a weaknesses of mine as a mentor is that I'm not that knowledgeable or experienced with the release process at Apache, and therefore have not followed this thread in detail, which I really

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-21 Thread Upayavira
I am a mentor for Shindig, but I am aware of a weaknesses of mine as a mentor is that I'm not that knowledgeable or experienced with the release process at Apache, and therefore have not followed this thread in detail, which I really should have. It seems that this release is stalled, but I am

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-12 Thread Ian Boston
On 12 May 2009, at 00:24, sebb wrote: Some NOTICE files start with: = = = == == NOTICE file corresponding to the section 4 d of== == the Apache License, Version 2.0,

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-12 Thread sebb
On 12/05/2009, Ian Boston i...@tfd.co.uk wrote: On 12 May 2009, at 00:24, sebb wrote: Some NOTICE files start with: = == NOTICE file corresponding to the section 4 d of== == the Apache

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-12 Thread Vincent Siveton
2009/5/12 sebb seb...@gmail.com:  I was reliably informed that this was discussed on the Maven list in March 2008 (subject: legal-discuss)  and for binary distributions that are created by the war packager that contained 3rd party libraries the DEPENDENCIES file was sufficient to comply with

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-12 Thread sebb
On 12/05/2009, Vincent Siveton vincent.sive...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/12 sebb seb...@gmail.com: I was reliably informed that this was discussed on the Maven list in March 2008 (subject: legal-discuss) and for binary distributions that are created by the war packager that contained

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-11 Thread sebb
On 11/05/2009, Ian Boston i...@tfd.co.uk wrote: Hi, Please review and vote on approving the first release of Apache Shindig version 1.0-incubating. Apache Incubator Shindig is a JavaScript container and implementations of the backend APIs and proxy required for hosting OpenSocial

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-11 Thread Vincent Siveton
Hi Sebb, First thanks to take care of this release! 2009/5/11, sebb seb...@gmail.com: On 11/05/2009, Ian Boston i...@tfd.co.uk wrote: Hi, Please review and vote on approving the first release of Apache Shindig version 1.0-incubating. Apache Incubator Shindig is a JavaScript

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-11 Thread Ian Boston
On 11 May 2009, at 18:11, sebb wrote: On 11/05/2009, Ian Boston i...@tfd.co.uk wrote: Hi, Please review and vote on approving the first release of Apache Shindig version 1.0-incubating. Apache Incubator Shindig is a JavaScript container and implementations of the backend APIs and proxy

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-11 Thread sebb
Some NOTICE files start with: = == NOTICE file corresponding to the section 4 d of== == the Apache License, Version 2.0, == == in this case for the Apache

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Jason van Zyl jvan...@sonatype.com wrote: Not mocking, just clarifying that on the aggregate level what is distributed via the standard Apache mechanism easily has its analog source equivalent which can be built. Ok, I think we are in general agreement. Are

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-28 Thread Brian Fox
Multiple hosts can share a public IP address. This is often the case for organisations with many hosts on their internal Lan - all the hosts (there could be hundreds) will appear to have the IP address of the internet gateway. But this is getting a bit off-topic. IP is only part of how

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-28 Thread Chris Chabot
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:14 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: OK, it just looked odd to have it at the same level as the README, N L files. Agreed, however there's also a lot of people who just ftp the files to the their shared webhost and expect it to work, so to try to make it work for

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-28 Thread Brian Fox
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Jason van Zyl jvan...@sonatype.com wrote: Not mocking, just clarifying that on the aggregate level what is distributed via the standard Apache mechanism easily has its analog source equivalent which can be built. Ok, I think we

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-28 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 28-Apr-09, at 1:24 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Jason van Zyl jvan...@sonatype.com wrote: Not mocking, just clarifying that on the aggregate level what is distributed via the standard Apache mechanism easily has its analog source equivalent which can be

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-28 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Calm down, Jason. No one was attacking Maven. The Apache Software Foundation requires a project (not just an incubator podling. All projects) to release source in a form that can be used to recreate the binaries. For the current state of the Shindig release, this is not possible. Noone was

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-28 Thread Chris Chabot
Just to clarify: Our initial release deployment actually included a shindig-sources archive, however because the PHP release *is* the source archive (the source is the binary since it's still a scripting language), and the jar's already included the source code too, we thought this would be

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-28 Thread Brian Fox
but again that wouldn't qualify as what Henning described as 'a tarbal of the svn tag'. Now if it's a requirement, and one that I can fully understand, that the 'source archive' should be usable as to rebuild release archives, This is what I'm trying to drive some consensus to and get

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-28 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 28-Apr-09, at 11:50 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: Calm down, Jason. No one was attacking Maven. I'm not upset, seriously. This is standard fare here, and only pointing out having any solution which involves Maven might better be on a path that actually involves Maven developers.

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-27 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 26-Apr-09, at 8:25 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Vincent Siveton vincent.sive...@gmail.com wrote: You need to do a checkout of the tag to build it. The source artifacts provide only java source, no build file. -1. As others have pointed out, the ASF

[VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread Vincent Siveton
Hi, Please review and vote on approving the first release of Apache Shindig version 1.0-incubating. Apache Incubator Shindig is a JavaScript container and implementations of the backend APIs and proxy required for hosting OpenSocial applications. Vote thread:

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread sebb
On 26/04/2009, Vincent Siveton vsive...@apache.org wrote: Hi, Please review and vote on approving the first release of Apache Shindig version 1.0-incubating. Apache Incubator Shindig is a JavaScript container and implementations of the backend APIs and proxy required for hosting

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Sorry, to bother you here, but I don't believe, that you have a choice. An Apache releases consists of source code. Binary artifacts are just an add on bonus. I can ping Roy on that subject if you beg to differ. ;-) However, as (at least for the Java part), all source code is available as

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread Vincent Siveton
2009/4/26 sebb seb...@gmail.com: The RAT report on SVN reports 476 files with unknown licences. Some of these may be test files (though even these should have AL if poss), but there seem to be quite a few files that should have the AL header, e.g. pom.xml etc. Ok I saw the pom.xml in features

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Vincent Siveton vincent.sive...@gmail.com wrote: We provided both java and php source code. Java artifacts are given via the Maven repo as usual, ie [1] [...] [1] http://tinyurl.com/cejp5x How do I build this to produce the binaries you've deployed?

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread Vincent Siveton
Hi, 2009/4/26 Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com: Hi, On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Vincent Siveton vincent.sive...@gmail.com wrote: We provided both java and php source code. Java artifacts are given via the Maven repo as usual, ie [1] [...] [1] http://tinyurl.com/cejp5x How do

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread Vincent Siveton
2009/4/26 sebb seb...@gmail.com: On 26/04/2009, Vincent Siveton vincent.sive...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/26 Henning Schmiedehausen henn...@schmiedehausen.org: Sorry, to bother you here, but I don't believe, that you have a choice. We provided both java and php source code.  Java artifacts

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread sebb
I think there are some problems with the archives. The *java* archive contains a .war file which has 42 jars in the WEB-INF/lib directory. Some 17 or so of these are ASF files, but the rest are 3rd party files. None of the 3rd party files are mentioned in the META-INF NOTICE and LICENSE files.

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread Vincent Siveton
2009/4/26 Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com: Hi, On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Vincent Siveton vincent.sive...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/26 Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com: How do I build this to produce the binaries you've deployed? mvn install -Prelease I can't, as there's

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread sebb
On 26/04/2009, Vincent Siveton vincent.sive...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/26 sebb seb...@gmail.com: On 26/04/2009, Vincent Siveton vincent.sive...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/26 Henning Schmiedehausen henn...@schmiedehausen.org: Sorry, to bother you here, but I don't believe, that you have

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread sebb
On 26/04/2009, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: I think there are some problems with the archives. The *java* archive contains a .war file which has 42 jars in the WEB-INF/lib directory. Some 17 or so of these are ASF files, but the rest are 3rd party files. None of the 3rd party files are

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread Vincent Siveton
2009/4/26 sebb seb...@gmail.com: I think there are some problems with the archives. The *java* archive contains a .war file which has 42 jars in the WEB-INF/lib directory. Some 17 or so of these are ASF files, but the rest are 3rd party files. None of the 3rd party files are mentioned in

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread sebb
On 26/04/2009, Vincent Siveton vincent.sive...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/26 Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com: Hi, On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Vincent Siveton vincent.sive...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/26 Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com: How do I build this to produce

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread sebb
On 26/04/2009, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/04/2009, Vincent Siveton vincent.sive...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/26 sebb seb...@gmail.com: On 26/04/2009, Vincent Siveton vincent.sive...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/26 Henning Schmiedehausen henn...@schmiedehausen.org:

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread Chris Chabot
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:36 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: The *php* archive also has the COPYING and COMMITTERS files. The NOTICE file says 2008. Those files are from the same source as the java archive, so when the new archives are created they will be updated too. Not sure the

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread sebb
On 27/04/2009, Chris Chabot chab...@google.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:36 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: The *php* archive also has the COPYING and COMMITTERS files. The NOTICE file says 2008. Those files are from the same source as the java archive, so when the new

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-04-26 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Vincent Siveton vincent.sive...@gmail.com wrote: You need to do a checkout of the tag to build it. The source artifacts provide only java source, no build file. -1. As others have pointed out, the ASF releases Open SOURCE, not Open Binaries and part of the