[RESULT][VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: ...Please cast your votes to accept the following clarifications to the Champion's role - this majority vote is open for at least 72 hours... The vote passes with binding +1s from Ross Gardler Ant Elder Marcel

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: ...I'll update http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion accordingly Done in revision 1232798, I'll wait for that to be online to inform podlings of the change.

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: ...I'll update http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion accordingly Done in

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: ...I'll update http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion accordingly ...Did you

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: ...I'll update

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-17 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 1/12/2012 9:02 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Once a podling is created, and until it graduates, its Champion must: 1. Coordinate the creation and timely delivery of the podling's board reports. 2. Keep an eye on the mentors' activity and take action (ask for new mentors, talk to the

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-17 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 The role of the Champion in the past basically ended when the podling was accepted for incubation, which was unfortunate. Craig On Jan 12, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi Incubator PMC, Here's the result of discussions that took place around Christmas - the goal is to

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
Yes, but this may wind up raising the bar for the Champion position so high that we wind up with fewer people offering to fulfill it. From: Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:00 PM

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-17 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 1/17/2012 4:03 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: Yes, but this may wind up raising the bar for the Champion position so high that we wind up with fewer people offering to fulfill it. In those cases, perhaps there is nobody actually qualified and willing to Champion the project at all? In which case

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
I doubt writing some more documentation on some webpage about yet another set of responsibilities for yet another role will make a material difference to anyone's behavior.  Under Noel we have run the Incubator as a member entitlement program, and the generally poor quality of mentoring is the

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-17 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: I doubt writing some more documentation on some webpage about yet another set of responsibilities for yet another role will make a material difference to anyone's behavior.  Under Noel we have run the Incubator as a

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
Well I think we will likely see more of the same- the usual suspects signing up to Champion, then wandering off once the podling is underway. From: Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-17 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Well I think we will likely see more of the same- the usual suspects signing up to Champion, then wandering off once the podling is underway. Hm, you might be right on that. If we would have a smaller IPMC, with

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-14 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Please cast your votes to accept the following clarifications to the Champion's role - this majority vote is open for at least 72 hours: +1 Sounds good. BR, Jukka Zitting

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-14 Thread Ate Douma
+1 (binding) Ate On 01/12/2012 04:02 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi Incubator PMC, Here's the result of discussions that took place around Christmas - the goal is to try and improve the PMC's oversight on podling reports and missing mentors, by having the Champion act as the main liaison

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-14 Thread Niclas Hedhman
I agree as well. A small step in the right direction. Should mean less controversy... On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:38 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: I'm +1 on this too. I think its the easiest way to get close to what Niclas was just suggesting of having only a single responsible mentor

[VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Incubator PMC, Here's the result of discussions that took place around Christmas - the goal is to try and improve the PMC's oversight on podling reports and missing mentors, by having the Champion act as the main liaison between a podling and the Incubator PMC. If we agree on the below

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-12 Thread Ross Gardler
+1 (thanks for bringing this together Bertrand) On 12 January 2012 15:02, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi Incubator PMC, Here's the result of discussions that took place around Christmas - the goal is to try and improve the PMC's oversight on podling reports and missing

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-12 Thread ant elder
I'm +1 on this too. I think its the easiest way to get close to what Niclas was just suggesting of having only a single responsible mentor but avoids all the debates about changing the number mentors. ...ant On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: +1

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-12 Thread Marcel Offermans
+1 Makes perfect sense to me! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-12 Thread Luciano Resende
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi Incubator PMC, Here's the result of discussions that took place around Christmas - the goal is to try and improve the PMC's oversight on podling reports and missing mentors, by having the Champion act as the

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 here is then some update needed too (i think): http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi Incubator PMC, Here's the result of discussions that took place around Christmas - the goal

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-12 Thread David Crossley
+1 In the docs, please remind to keep site-author/podlings.xml@champion up-to-date. -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-12 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 (binding) LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an

Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-12 Thread j...@nanthrax.net
+1 (binding) Regards JB -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré jbono...@apache.org http://blog.nanthrax.net Talend - http://wwx.talend.com - Reply message - From: Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the