RE: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-05-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
David Blevins wrote: Here's the revised language: RESOLVED, that The Apache OpenEJB Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software project related to enterprise application containers and object distribution services [based on,

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-05-02 Thread David Blevins
On May 2, 2007, at 3:23 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: David Blevins wrote: Here's the revised language: RESOLVED, that The Apache OpenEJB Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software project related to enterprise application

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-05-01 Thread David Blevins
Noel, we definitely understand we don't have an exclusive lock on any ASF land; we understand perfectly that's not how the ASF works :) -David On May 1, 2007, at 12:47 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: David Blevins wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: David Blevins wrote: We could use Scalable,

RE: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-05-01 Thread Noel J. Bergman
we definitely understand we don't have an exclusive lock on any ASF land; we understand perfectly that's not how the ASF works :) :-) As I allowed earlier, the discourse devolved a bit into a bikeshed. :-) I look forward to the revised language, and OpenEJB's graduation. --- Noel

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-05-01 Thread David Blevins
On May 1, 2007, at 1:27 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: we definitely understand we don't have an exclusive lock on any ASF land; we understand perfectly that's not how the ASF works :) :-) As I allowed earlier, the discourse devolved a bit into a bikeshed. :-) I look forward to the revised

RE: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Brett Porter wrote: Noel J. Bergman asked: What is the diversity of the Committer list and the PMC? There are individuals from = 3 employers in both committers and the PMC. Is that still true of companies owned by the same entity are counted as one (e.g., IBM, Lotus and Tivoli would count as

RE: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
David Blevins wrote: We could use Scalable, transactional, and multi-user secure architecture for the development and deployment of component-based business applications How would that differ from River or WS (various WS-* specs cover transactions and security)? Generally, I think it's good

RE: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
David Blevins wrote: The definition of ejb spells out Scalable, transactional, and multi-user secure which is summed up by the word 'enterprise'. So maybe something like creation and maintenance of enterprise application containers and object distribution. Maybe expand that last part to

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-30 Thread Brett Porter
On 30/04/07, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that still true of companies owned by the same entity are counted as one (e.g., IBM, Lotus and Tivoli would count as a single employer)? Yup. - Brett - To unsubscribe,

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-30 Thread David Blevins
Noel J. Bergman wrote: David Blevins wrote: We could use Scalable, transactional, and multi-user secure architecture for the development and deployment of component-based business applications How would that differ from River or WS (various WS-* specs cover transactions and security)? They

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-30 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
David Blevins wrote: Couldn't that be in EJB and related technologies ?? Certainly implementing the EJB spec is a constant for the project, so that description would be adequate. It does give me an ick feeling though as it's very much in the nature of the project to go beyond EJB and test

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-30 Thread David Blevins
On Apr 30, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: David Blevins wrote: Couldn't that be in EJB and related technologies ?? Certainly implementing the EJB spec is a constant for the project, so that description would be adequate. It does give me an ick feeling though as it's very

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-29 Thread David Blevins
On Apr 27, 2007, at 3:19 PM, David Blevins wrote: On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:40 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 4/25/07, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 24, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Brett Porter wrote: On 24/04/07, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the creation and

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-27 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 27 April 2007 13:12, David Blevins wrote: Haven't seen any more discussion, so just following up. Noel, were your questions answered to your liking? Niclas? +1 to graduate OpenEJB to TLP. Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er I work

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 4/25/07, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 24, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Brett Porter wrote: On 24/04/07, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to enterprise application and remoting services, for distribution at

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-27 Thread David Blevins
On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:40 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 4/25/07, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 24, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Brett Porter wrote: On 24/04/07, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-26 Thread David Blevins
Haven't seen any more discussion, so just following up. Noel, were your questions answered to your liking? Niclas? -David On Apr 24, 2007, at 10:09 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Brett, What is the diversity of the Committer list and the PMC? the creation and maintenance of open-source

RE: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-24 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Brett, What is the diversity of the Committer list and the PMC? the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to enterprise application and remoting services, for distribution at no charge to the public. A bit generic for a project that is intended to managing an

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-24 Thread Brett Porter
On 24/04/07, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brett, What is the diversity of the Committer list and the PMC? There are individuals from = 3 employers in both committers and the PMC. the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to enterprise application and

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-24 Thread David Blevins
On Apr 24, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Brett Porter wrote: On 24/04/07, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to enterprise application and remoting services, for distribution at no charge to the public. A bit generic for a project

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-24 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 08:31, David Blevins wrote: Generally, I think it's good to use words that describe EJB then the words Enterprise JavaBeans specifically. Primarily because I think it's good to be able to innovate in the space and not limit ourselves to the ideas approved by the

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-24 Thread David Blevins
On Apr 24, 2007, at 7:41 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Wednesday 25 April 2007 08:31, David Blevins wrote: Generally, I think it's good to use words that describe EJB then the words Enterprise JavaBeans specifically. Primarily because I think it's good to be able to innovate in the space and

[vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-23 Thread Brett Porter
Hi to all incubator PMC folk, The OpenEJB community have voted to ask the incubator PMC to recommended the following resolution to the board. For further reference, see the earlier thread on this list: http://www.nabble.com/-proposal--OpenEJB-Graduation-Proposal-tf3509732.html#a9803491 Note