Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-09 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 6/8/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/8/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ OT, but how tightly will you have to work with Tomcat to support the common EL? isn't EL maintained in jakarta? snap/ Jakarta Commons EL is pretty much Chapter 2 out of

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-08 Thread Bruce Snyder
On 6/7/06, Jochen Wiedmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, this is possibly OT, so I apologize in advance. A while ago there has been a discussion around a separate project for specifications on this list, which grew into nothing. Currently I am on the way to publish a clean room implementation of

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-08 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 6/8/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in [the JSF API] there are lots of classes with lots of code and logic. Not uncommon, which is why I generally consider an API project to be a bit of a waste. depends on what you mean by project :) if a top level project is meant, i now

JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, this is possibly OT, so I apologize in advance. A while ago there has been a discussion around a separate project for specifications on this list, which grew into nothing. Currently I am on the way to publish a clean room implementation of the JAXB 2.0 API. There are no IP issues: It is

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Jochen, Awesome!!! Personally, my preference would be JaxMe as it is the next rev of the JAXB spec. thanks, dims On 6/7/06, Jochen Wiedmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, this is possibly OT, so I apologize in advance. A while ago there has been a discussion around a separate project for

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread Guillaume Nodet
There was a thread about a java spec central repository back in december. I wish it exists as it would be the best location... Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Hi, this is possibly OT, so I apologize in advance. A while ago there has been a discussion around a separate project

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread James Strachan
Agreed - I think a shared java spec project makes sense where we can unify stuff across all projects like jaxb, geronimo-spec, harmony, servicemix (we've got the JBI API) into one place. On 6/7/06, Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a thread about a java spec central repository

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread Guillaume Nodet
+1 Guillaume Davanum Srinivas wrote: Ah. I got confused between the API and the IMPL. Sure, we have talked about it before, maybe this will generate the momentum :) +1 to a java spec project. thanks, dims On 6/7/06, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed - I think a shared java

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
So, then the APIs will be in that special spec project and impls will be done in their own projects? For MyFaces this would mean javax.faces.** will be developed in that spec project and the JSF runtime in the *traditional* MyFaces project, right ? -Matthias On 6/7/06, Davanum Srinivas [EMAIL

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread James Strachan
On 6/7/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, then the APIs will be in that special spec project and impls will be done in their own projects? Yes - as there could be many implementations For MyFaces this would mean javax.faces.** will be developed in that spec project and the

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread Dain Sundstrom
I wonder if Jakarta would be willing to mange the specs. When I think of Java at Apache, I think of Jakarta so it seems like a natural place to keep specs. Also Jakarta has experience dealing with lots of small code bases. just an idea... -dain On Jun 7, 2006, at 9:08 AM, James

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread James Strachan
Am kinda thinking it needs a very different kind of pmc/committer model so a new top level project might be simplest. e.g. any comitter at apache should be pretty much welcome to come in and add a spec or fix any errors in the specs or build system or documentation - as they are generally static

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
+1 for tlp I think folks like Geronimo or Myfaces should be able to commit to *their* API (sub)project of the Java Spec TLP -Matthias On 6/7/06, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am kinda thinking it needs a very different kind of pmc/committer model so a new top level project might be

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 6/7/06, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am kinda thinking it needs a very different kind of pmc/committer model so a new top level project might be simplest. e.g. any comitter at apache should be pretty much welcome to come in and add a spec or fix any errors in the specs or build

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 6/7/06, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/7/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/7/06, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am kinda thinking it needs a very different kind of pmc/committer model so a new top level project might be simplest. e.g.

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread Manfred Geiler
Don't forget, that the JSF API is a little bit different to other spec APIs. Other than common spec APIs that almost consist of interfaces only, in JSF there are lots of classes with lots of code and logic. So, when I think of JSF API 1.2, I doubt that it would be easy to separate api development

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread Jeremias Maerki
An alternative would be XML Commons Externals where we already have the whole JAXP and W3C DOM family of APIs. Maybe we should make an inventory of all those APIs on a Wiki page and write down where they are currently located. That should give us a better overall picture. Charging into

Re: JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
i've posted a first draft at http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/SpecificationRepository but luckily i did see this point coming :-) (it's rough so please feel free to dive in and improve) On 6/7/06, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget, that the JSF API is a little bit different

RE: JAXB API target

2006-06-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
in [the JSF API] there are lots of classes with lots of code and logic. Not uncommon, which is why I generally consider an API project to be a bit of a waste. Instead, projects that implement specifications should populate the standards part of http://projects.apache.org: