RE: MyFaces?

2004-09-11 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Martin Marinschek wrote: I wonder if we should start to worry now - should we try to resend the stuff? Noel J. Bergman wrote: Ted Husted wrote: Ted Husted wrote: Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] collected the  remaining CLAs and sent them by ground mail on 19 Aug.  The CLA file

Re: MyFaces?

2004-08-31 Thread Erik Abele
On 31.08.2004, at 14:39, Ted Husted wrote: OK, now I'm starting to worry :) The CLAs that Manfred sent by surface mail should have arrived a week ago. Might they still be pending, or should we try again? Hmm, root@ has a bunch of account req rec'd for the MyFaces project but none of the CLAs

RE: MyFaces?

2004-08-31 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ted Husted wrote: OK, now I'm starting to worry :) The CLAs that Manfred sent by surface mail should have arrived a week ago. Might they still be pending, or should we try again? Give it a few more days. The ASF Secretary has indicated that there is a backlog of CLAs that will be

Re: MyFaces?

2004-08-27 Thread Ted Husted
status please add MyFaces to the    incubator projects section, like the other incubating podlings:  http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html  http://incubator.apache.org/howtoparticipate.html#Updating+the+site  I updated a local copy of the index.xml, added a myfaces.cwiki page  (following

Re: MyFaces?

2004-08-27 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Ted Husted wrote: I couldn't get Forrest to compile a clean checkout of the site either. My documents validated, so I crossed my fingers, and checked them in :) The problem is the cwiki stuff, that does not get validated (not xml) and is not fail/safe either. This update should make cwiki more

Re: latest forrest can't build incubator site (Was: MyFaces?)

2004-08-27 Thread David Crossley
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Ted Husted wrote: I couldn't get Forrest to compile a clean checkout of the site either. My documents validated, so I crossed my fingers, and checked them in :) The problem is the cwiki stuff, that does not get validated (not xml) and is not fail/safe either.

Re: MyFaces?

2004-08-26 Thread Ted Husted
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 13:39:24 -0700, Roy T. Fielding wrote:  Could someone aware of its status please add MyFaces to the  incubator projects section, like the other incubating podlings:  http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html  http://incubator.apache.org/howtoparticipate.html#Updating

MyFaces?

2004-08-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
what is the status of MyFaces? The lists and CVS were setup a month ago, as were several accounts. I have not seen any activity since then, but judging from what I just found on their current mailing lists, they have been waiting to get all of their current committers covered by CLA before

Re: MyFaces?

2004-08-25 Thread Ted Husted
geeks say never to launch a product in August :) -Ted. On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:50:07 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote:  what is the status of MyFaces?  The lists and CVS were setup a month ago, as were several accounts.   I have not seen any activity since then, but judging from what I  just found

Re: MyFaces?

2004-08-25 Thread Ted Husted
to launch a  product in August :)  -Ted.  On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:50:07 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote:  what is the status of MyFaces?  The lists and CVS were setup a month ago, as were several  accounts.   I have not seen any activity since then, but judging  from what I  just found

Re: MyFaces?

2004-08-25 Thread Roy T . Fielding
Could someone aware of its status please add MyFaces to the incubator projects section, like the other incubating podlings: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html http://incubator.apache.org/howtoparticipate.html#Updating+the+site Roy

Re: [RESULT:VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-29 Thread Ted Husted
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:40:43 +0200, Martin Marinschek wrote:  Sorry that it took that long but here is the list: snip/ Thanks, Martin. I passed the request along to infrastructure@ Once the accounts are setup, we'll ask everyone to subscibe to the lists, and get rolling on the CVS, as

RE: [RESULT:VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Once the accounts are setup, we'll ask everyone to subscibe to the lists, and get rolling on the CVS, as discussed. No need to wait before you start using the lists. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [RESULT:VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-28 Thread Martin Marinschek
to use JIRA or Bugzilla? (2) What Apache usernames each of the MyFaces committers would like, and to what email address we can send the initial account passwords? For (2), a good default might be everyone's SourceForge username and SF email address, but you probably want to confirm

RE: [RESULT:VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-22 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ted, Once the accounts and lists are setup, I imagine we can move most discussions from here to the new MyFaces DEV list. -cvs, -user, -dev and -ppmc lists are setup. You are the moderator and sole subscriber to each. Time to get everyone else subscribed and go from there. Please let me

RE: [RESULT:VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-22 Thread Ted Husted
imagine we can move most  discussions from here to the new MyFaces DEV list.  -cvs, -user, -dev and -ppmc lists are setup.  You are the moderator  and sole subscriber to each.  Time to get everyone else subscribed  and go from there.  Please let me know if there are any problems with the lists

[RESULT:VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
The vote to incubate MyFaces has passed. Voting in favor: James Holmes Alex Karasulu Dain Sundstrom Roy Fielding Berin Lautenbach Phil Steitz Stephen McConnell Craig McClanahan Jim Jagielski Davanum Srinivas

Re: [RESULT:VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-16 Thread Craig McClanahan
Noel J. Bergman wrote: The vote to incubate MyFaces has passed. Voting in favor: James Holmes Alex Karasulu Dain Sundstrom Roy Fielding Berin Lautenbach Phil Steitz Stephen McConnell Craig McClanahan Jim Jagielski

Re: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-16 Thread Martin Marinschek
/incubator/MyFacesProposal [X] Accept MyFaces into the Incubator [ ] Reject MyFaces Vote ends Midnight EDT (between Monday and Tuesday), Monday July 12, 2004. Cliff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands

Re: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-12 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jul 9, 2004, at 10:23 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: See: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFacesProposal [X] Accept MyFaces into the Incubator [ ] Reject MyFaces - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me. On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 08:44:39 -0400, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 9, 2004, at 10:23 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: See: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFacesProposal [X] Accept MyFaces into the Incubator [ ] Reject MyFaces

Re: [Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-12 Thread Martin Marinschek
project MyFaces http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFaces* 17 June 2004, The MyFaces http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFaces Team (contributions by: Martin Marinschek, martin at marinschek dot com; Ted Husted, husted at apache dot org

RE: [Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
what if I just copy the proposal and attach it to this mail, and what people voted about was this version? Thank you for doing that. [He said, wondering why no one, including self, had thought to the obvious earlier. :-)] --- Noel

RE: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-12 Thread Cliff Schmidt
Noel J. Bergman wrote on Friday, July 09, 2004 7:23 AM: See: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFacesProposal [X] Accept MyFaces into the Incubator [ ] Reject MyFaces Vote ends Midnight EDT (between Monday and Tuesday), Monday July 12, 2004. Cliff

Re: [Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-11 Thread Martin Marinschek
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Martin, When you get a chance, would you please take the Wiki page content and prepare it as a record of the project proposal for the MyFaces web site? Shouldn't take more than a few minutes. --- Noel

Re: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-10 Thread Phil Steitz
Noel J. Bergman wrote: See: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFacesProposal [X] Accept MyFaces into the Incubator One small comment: since Wiki pages can change at any time, in the future it might be best to have votes reference static html (or inlined) proposals instead of wiki pages. The +1

Re: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-10 Thread Stephen McConnell
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Re: [Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-09 Thread Martin Marinschek
What do you think, would it be time to start off the vote? I think the proposal correctly represents what the MyFaces developer want to achieve with the project, the vote about the grant is settled on the MyFaces develop list, and the license has successfully been changed - I think

RE: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-09 Thread James Holmes
[X] Accept MyFaces into the Incubator -Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 9:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation See: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFacesProposal [ ] Accept MyFaces

RE: [Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-09 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Martin, When you get a chance, would you please take the Wiki page content and prepare it as a record of the project proposal for the MyFaces web site? Shouldn't take more than a few minutes. --- Noel - To unsubscribe

Re: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-09 Thread Dain Sundstrom
[+1] Accept MyFaces into the Incubator -dain - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-09 Thread Noel J. Bergman
(never been much for voting templates) I think we'll drop that style in the future. :-) Yours was not the only such comment. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-09 Thread Berin Lautenbach
+1 Noel J. Bergman wrote: See: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFacesProposal [ ] Accept MyFaces into the Incubator [ ] Reject MyFaces Vote ends Midnight EDT (between Monday and Tuesday), Monday July 12, 2004. --- Noel

Re: [Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-07 Thread Martin Marinschek
Just a short update - the source-code of MyFaces is now completely under the Apache License, Version 2.0 - I will update the proposal according to this fact. And this is probably also the difference to the Sun RI ;) Best regards, Martin Noel J. Bergman wrote: Is there anything else that anyone

Re: [Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-07 Thread Martin Marinschek
In fact, IntelliJ IDEA - I have read a thread in the IDEA forum about svnup several days ago, and the conclusion was that it is not yet very mature and the subversion support is a constant top request of IntelliJ users in the feature request... However, CVS support in this IDE is just great!

Re: [Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-05 Thread Martin Marinschek
Oh, it will be CVS for now, I believe, as our most-beloved programming tools don't have subversion support integrated until now. Conversion to subversion is delayed ;) Apart from that, we are all set, I believe.. best regards, Martin

Re: [Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-05 Thread Ted Husted
On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 09:16:59 +0200, Martin Marinschek wrote: Oh, it will be CVS for now, I believe, as our most-beloved programming tools don't have subversion support integrated until now. Which tools would those be? There are SVN plugins for both IDEA (http://svnup.tigris.org) and Eclipse

Re: [Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-05 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Ted Husted wrote: Which tools would those be? There are SVN plugins for both IDEA (http://svnup.tigris.org) and Eclipse (http://subclipse.tigris.org). Please keep in mind, that these tools are *far* away from their CVS counterparts maturity and rich feature set. For example, in the case of

RE: [Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-05 Thread Ted Husted
2004 09:13:05 +0930, Nick Lothian wrote: Is there anything else that anyone would like to discuss regarding the MyFaces proposal (http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFacesProposal) before we vote on acceptance? Is there any relationship between MyFaces and https

RE: [Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-05 Thread Nick Lothian
be redistributed in any form. The CVS source code is distributed under the Java Research License and is not available to the general public. -Ted. On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 09:13:05 +0930, Nick Lothian wrote: Is there anything else that anyone would like to discuss regarding the MyFaces

RE: [Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-05 Thread James Holmes
It has been open sourced. That's what the sun research license is. However, it is not very open. MyFaces is a true open source project. -James http://www.jamesholmes.com/JavaServerFaces/ -Original Message- From: Nick Lothian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 7:35

[Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-03 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Is there anything else that anyone would like to discuss regarding the MyFaces proposal (http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFacesProposal) before we vote on acceptance? It is unclear to me whether the proposal calls for a CVS repository, or if they will go straight into Subversion now (rather

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-17 Thread Marinschek Martin
wants to incubate MyFaces? we will need some help - I guess the project mentor would be there to do exactly that. We setup something called a PPMC, and there will be ASF folks helping you to adjust and become attuned to how things work in the ASF. :-) regarding to infrastructure - it would

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-17 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Martin, Please see http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeehiveProposal as a model, and prepare a similar one for MyFaces. It appears that there is sufficient interest, and I am prepared to call for a vote to incubate it. I've created an outline page for you to start: http://wiki.apache.org

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-17 Thread James Holmes
Thanks for the info. I added myself to the sponsor list. -James -Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 1:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces? Martin, Please see http://wiki.apache.org

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-17 Thread Cliff Schmidt
you end up at Apache, I'd be happy to help you with any of these release process issues. Cliff Marinschek Martin wrote on Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:50 PM: Ok, I have started filling out the proposal and requested some help from the other MyFaces-members, maybe we will need some more time

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-16 Thread Marinschek Martin
] Subject: RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces? James Holmes wrote: My guess is that it would be best served as a sub-project of Jakarta Well, I think that Jakarta has enough on its plate, and wouldn't necessarily favor adding a cohesive community into that maelstrom. But that is something

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-16 Thread Marinschek Martin
to shift slowly, but I don't know if we have to do that before Incubation, or if it can happen during Incubation?! Martin -Original Message- From: Tim O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 5:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
we will need some help - I guess the project mentor would be there to do exactly that. We setup something called a PPMC, and there will be ASF folks helping you to adjust and become attuned to how things work in the ASF. :-) regarding to infrastructure - it would be great to be able to shift

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Marinschek Martin
own company, so that would not really account for a concentration. As for the others, afaik there are no relations whatsoever except for the fact that we are all working together to make MyFaces a success! If you are interested in the traffic on user/dev list : in the last two weeks, there were

Re: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Jun 15, 2004, at 1:14 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Martin, Fine to hear that some interest is there! So far, I have heard from Dain Sundstrom (Geronimo) and James Holmes (Struts) that they are interested in participating on a MyFaces PPMC. I expect we'll hear from others, and ought to be able

Re: [Myfaces-develop] Moving to Jakarta

2004-06-15 Thread Thomas Spiegl
+1 +1 from me. Hey there, I have started asking at Apache Incubator if there is any interest to get MyFaces up and running as an Apache sub-project; and the interest is not too small. The guys at Apache incubator would need us to change the license of MyFaces to an Apache style license

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Steve Raeburn
] Sent: June 14, 2004 10:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces? Martin, Fine to hear that some interest is there! So far, I have heard from Dain Sundstrom (Geronimo) and James Holmes (Struts) that they are interested in participating on a MyFaces PPMC

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Steve Raeburn
a target than generates the Ant build file, so this is not a big deal. Steve -Original Message- From: Marinschek Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 15, 2004 9:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces? Another question - what do we have to change

Re: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Erik Abele
] Subject: RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces? My guess is that it would be best served as a sub-project of Jakarta, however, I'm somewhat indifferent. If necessary, I presume it could be moved to another home later. BTW, are all we waiting on is a formal license adoption from all

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
is ready to leave the Incubator. are all we waiting on is a formal license adoption from all of the current MyFaces committers to get started? They are voting on that, but we (the Incubator PMC) will also need to hold a vote to accept the project for Incubation, now that we can see clear interest

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Tim O'Brien
] Subject: RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces? Another question - what do we have to change regarding project infrastructure to enter the incubator/ and later to be a project? Do we have to embrace Maven or can we somehow ship around this? Martin -Original Message- From: James Holmes

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-14 Thread Marinschek Martin
]; Marinschek Martin Subject: RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces? Tim O'Brien wrote: Marinschek Martin wrote: Our project would like to be part of the Jakarta-Family and is looking for someone interested to be the mentor for it... I am talking of MyFaces, currently hosted at sourceforge.net, which

Re: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-14 Thread Dain Sundstrom
at the Roles and Responsibilities page. MyFaces is currently licensed under an LGPL license, and the copyright holder is the MyFaces Team. My understanding is that a copyright holder can modify a license. For a project to be within the ASF, the license would need to change to the Apache License

Re: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-14 Thread Bruce Snyder
should take a look at the Roles and JJ Responsibilities page. JJ JJ MyFaces is currently licensed under an LGPL license, and the copyright JJ holder is the MyFaces Team. My understanding is that a copyright JJ holder can JJ modify a license. For a project to be within the ASF, the license JJ would

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Fine to hear that some interest is there! Seems like it. :-) We're just in the process of lining up some folks who would be working with you to help in the Incubation process. Meanwhile, can you provide some information about your Community? Is it largely independent developers? Is there a

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Martin, Fine to hear that some interest is there! So far, I have heard from Dain Sundstrom (Geronimo) and James Holmes (Struts) that they are interested in participating on a MyFaces PPMC. I expect we'll hear from others, and ought to be able to decide this week about Incubation

Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-11 Thread Marinschek Martin
Hi there, Our project would like to be part of the Jakarta-Family and is looking for someone interested to be the mentor for it... I am talking of MyFaces, currently hosted at sourceforge.net, which is an approach to an open-source implementation of the Java Server Faces Spec. We currently

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