Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-05 Thread Greg Stein
If the podling *has* cleared all IP, then I could see allowing it. But we certainly don't want improper IP residing in the Attic. These aren't Apache projects until graduation, so don't really belong. I can see releases strengthening the argument for archival. Henri should be able to clarify.

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-05 Thread Ian C
As this discussion is taking place someone just asked to join the project On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 3:34 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > I recollect seeing a retiring podling with releases go to the attic. If that > is not correct or it was an exceptional case then thanks for

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-05 Thread Dave Fisher
Thanks. Regarding domain names that's good advice. Should retirement happen we can follow that course. There seems to be fresh blood in the project. We will need to see. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 5, 2015, at 6:59 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: > > I don't see

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-05 Thread Henri Yandell
I don't see any project within the Attic that came there from the Incubator. If one did, it should have passed its IP items already. My opinion on domain names for a project not graduating is that we give it back to who gave it to us, or if they don't want it back, let them decide who we should

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-04 Thread Dave Fisher
I recollect seeing a retiring podling with releases go to the attic. If that is not correct or it was an exceptional case then thanks for the correction. What would be done with domain names? The podling came in with the domain name offtoolkit.org. What happens to that? Regards, Dave Sent

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-03 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:25 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > All, > > I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling. > > This podling has been incubating for over 4 years now. Last month they > filed a report without mentor sign off, without any feedback on the

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-03 Thread John D. Ament
Hi Rob, On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 7:56 AM Rob Weir wrote: > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:25 AM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > All, > > > > I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling. > > > > This podling has been incubating for over 4 years now.

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-03 Thread Pierre Smits
This call for help points out that going through the incubation is more than just adopting the Apache Way and turning out releases. Developing the community is critical and communication is key to that. I wonder about what has been done in that area and whether there are lessons that can be

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-03 Thread Greg Stein
The Attic is for Apache projects. Podlings are simply retired/removed. On Sep 4, 2015 9:23 AM, "Dave Fisher" wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 3, 2015, at 5:12 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > > > > Hi Rob, > >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 7:56 AM

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-03 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 3, 2015, at 5:12 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > > Hi Rob, >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 7:56 AM Rob Weir wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:25 AM, John D. Ament >> wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> I'd like to

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-02 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 02 Sep 15, at 10:28, toki wrote: > > > > On 02/09/15 10:25, John D. Ament wrote: > >> I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling. > > This project has been torn between going to the attic, or becoming a > sub-project of another project, since at

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-02 Thread jan i
On 2 September 2015 at 17:11, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > > > On 02 Sep 15, at 10:28, toki wrote: > > > > > > > > On 02/09/15 10:25, John D. Ament wrote: > > > >> I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling. > > > > This project has been

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-02 Thread Ian C
Hi All, I wrote the last none mentor signed off report for the ODF Toolit. It has been, is, very quiet, but I believe there are a number of users out there. I'm not sure on the numbers or the details. It would be a shame to alienate them. Whatever we do let's try to make sure they understand

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-02 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 02 Sep 15, at 21:51, Ian C wrote: > > Before moving it to the attic is there anything that can be done to > publicise the need for people and try to attract them? > I would love to see it continue. The philosophical issues—differences, they’re pretty deep—as well as the

RE: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
- From: Ian C [mailto:i...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 18:52 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: ODF Toolkit may need help Hi All, I wrote the last none mentor signed off report for the ODF Toolit. It has been, is, very quiet, but I believe there are a number of users

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-02 Thread toki
On 03/09/15 01:51, Ian C wrote: > I'm not sure on the numbers or the details. It would be a shame to alienate > them. The earliest mention of going to the attic on the ODF-Toolkit Users list was on 21 January 2014.

ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-02 Thread John D. Ament
All, I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling. This podling has been incubating for over 4 years now. Last month they filed a report without mentor sign off, without any feedback on the mailing list. They have remained partially active throughout the 4 years, but from what I

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-02 Thread toki
On 02/09/15 10:25, John D. Ament wrote: > I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling. This project has been torn between going to the attic, or becoming a sub-project of another project, since at least January 2014. IMNSHO, it should go to the attic, with Apache Corinthia