Re: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-23 Thread jonathon
On 23/11/14 20:41, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Metrics do not provide this information, and indeed can detract from the > community health issues. In looking at http://projects.bitergia.com/apache-cloudstack/browser/, I'm wondering if any meaningful metrics can be provided. Take for

RE: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-23 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
nto valuable data about the foundation as a whole I can see real value with minimal risk. Sally, over on press@ is currently looking at the kind of data that would be useful to report. Ross -Original Message- From: Sergio Fernández [mailto:sergio.fernan...@salzburgresearch.at] Sent: Sunday,

Re: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-23 Thread jan i
t;> Ross >> >> -Original Message- >> From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] >> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 12:24 PM >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: dashboarding incubator >> >> On 21 November 2014 20:44, Bertrand Delac

Re: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-23 Thread Sergio Fernández
x27;t get me started on how metrics are not a good evaluator of open source code...) I fully agree with the comments below. Ross -Original Message- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 12:24 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: dashboarding incub

Re: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Sergio, I think there's no need to ask for permission in this particular case, unless you'd need to have INFRA help you obtaining information that is not publicly available. But then again, knowing what this information is would be useful anyway ;-) So yeah... go ahead! I'd like to help as much a

Re: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 6:35 AM, David Nalley wrote: > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Sergio Fernández > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> one of the things I brought from ApacheCon is the idea if providing >> dashboard for the podlings. Bitergia presented there their approach [1], and >> I think could be us

RE: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-21 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
...@microsoft.com] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 12:27 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: dashboarding incubator We already evaluated the Bitergia offering - it is expensive and does not provide sufficient benefit for the money (don't get me started on how metrics are not a

RE: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-21 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
lto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 12:24 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: dashboarding incubator On 21 November 2014 20:44, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:35 PM, David Nalley wrote: > > ...I am generally against us

Re: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-21 Thread jan i
On 21 November 2014 20:44, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:35 PM, David Nalley wrote: > > ...I am generally against us standing up our own service that does this. > > We've had a couple of these systems over the years. (pulse.a,o for > > instance). It takes a non-t

Re: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:35 PM, David Nalley wrote: > ...I am generally against us standing up our own service that does this. > We've had a couple of these systems over the years. (pulse.a,o for > instance). It takes a non-trivial amount of work to setup and maintain > such a system, and in

Re: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-21 Thread Sean Busbey
One down side to the github provided analytics is that projects may be restricted in how they can make use of those analytics in e.g. presentations. Github has previously asserted that those analytic outputs are subject to a license grant from github and requested sign off in the form of a user agr

Re: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-21 Thread Julian Hyde
I agree with David. For example, many projects are now mirrored to github, and github has very good analytics: https://github.com/apache/incubator-calcite/pulse https://github.com/apache/incubator-calcite/graphs/contributors And, I don't have to log an INFRA JIRA to get them. Which makes both m

Re: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-21 Thread David Nalley
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Sergio Fernández wrote: > Hi, > > one of the things I brought from ApacheCon is the idea if providing > dashboard for the podlings. Bitergia presented there their approach [1], and > I think could be useful. See for instance the dashboard they provided for > Apache