+1
2010/12/2 William A. Rowe Jr.
> On 11/23/2010 8:11 PM, James Purser wrote:
> > While Google owns the Google Wave trademark, they don't own the very
> generic
> > "Wave".
> >
> > Apache Wave will be a separate thing and unaffected by any trademark that
> > Google owns.
>
> Wrong. The ASF is a
On 11/23/2010 8:11 PM, James Purser wrote:
> While Google owns the Google Wave trademark, they don't own the very generic
> "Wave".
>
> Apache Wave will be a separate thing and unaffected by any trademark that
> Google owns.
Wrong. The ASF is always affected by other's Trademarks, which is why w
On 11/29/2010 06:08 PM, Santiago Gala wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Ian Roughley wrote:
>> I'd like to add to what Soren said: we've discussed whether we should
>> include the protocol and the
>> implementation of the protocol in the proposal. What we concluded, is that
>> having ev
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Ian Roughley wrote:
> I'd like to add to what Soren said: we've discussed whether we should include
> the protocol and the
> implementation of the protocol in the proposal. What we concluded, is that
> having everything
> together would be the simplest for the t
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Ian Roughley wrote:
> On 11/25/2010 07:35 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> So, I think there's an underlying issue here that hasn't been brought up yet.
> And from the many
> discussion with Dan, I think it's Google's fault :-)
I just want a leveled playing field.
On 11/25/2010 07:35 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
>
>> Simple review: the original email was sent by Dan Peterson from his
>> google.com address. I imagine that if Google had a problem with it,
>> then he wouldn't be working there tomorrow :-D ...
I'd like to add to what Soren said: we've discussed whether we should include
the protocol and the
implementation of the protocol in the proposal. What we concluded, is that
having everything
together would be the simplest for the time being... although I don't think
anyone in the discussion
ha
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Santiago Gala wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Dan Peterson wrote:
> (...)
>> To keep things moving, I'd like to go ahead and put this proposal to a vote
>> starting on Tuesday on the west coast of the US (roughly 24 hours from now).
>>
>
> I want to get
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Dan Peterson wrote:
(...)
> To keep things moving, I'd like to go ahead and put this proposal to a vote
> starting on Tuesday on the west coast of the US (roughly 24 hours from now).
>
I want to get some information about an issue that, like the
name/branding one,
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
> On Nov 26, 2010, at 7:05 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>
> > - Original Message
> >
> >> From: Tad Glines
> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >> Sent: Fri, November 26, 2010 9:47:33
On Nov 26, 2010, at 7:05 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> - Original Message
>
>> From: Tad Glines
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Sent: Fri, November 26, 2010 9:47:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Accept Wave for incubation
>>
>>
- Original Message
> From: Tad Glines
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Fri, November 26, 2010 9:47:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Accept Wave for incubation
>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>
> > Yet, we have in the
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> Yet, we have in the past had similar situations, where we have not
> allowed this kind of position. In the end, you are now encouraging
> that Apache WAVE, Google WAVE and Niclas WAVE are totally fine,
> possibly not the same thing.
> Lucid
On Nov 26, 2010, at 4:07 AM, Bernd Fondermann
wrote:
>
>
> I wouldn't stop the proposal, though. This can be identified as an
> issue to be solved in Incubation - either by changing the name away
> from 'Wave' or by transferring marks or even by determining that none
> of both is required.
Ye
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:07 +0100, "Bernd Fondermann"
wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 01:35, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> >
> >> Simple review: the original email was sent by Dan Peterson from his
> >> google.com address. I imagine that if Googl
On Nov 26, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> I wouldn't stop the proposal, though. This can be identified as an
> issue to be solved in Incubation - either by changing the name away
> from 'Wave' or by transferring marks or even by determining that none
> of both is required.
Exactly,
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:26, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Bernd Fondermann
> wrote:
>> PS: It would've been much better to first [DISCUSS] the proposal
>> before putting it up for vote.
>
> I don't see a [VOTE] here.
Ooops, you're right. - Well, in this case
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Bernd Fondermann
wrote:
> PS: It would've been much better to first [DISCUSS] the proposal
> before putting it up for vote.
I don't see a [VOTE] here.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
-
To unsubscribe,
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 01:35, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
>
>> Simple review: the original email was sent by Dan Peterson from his
>> google.com address. I imagine that if Google had a problem with it,
>> then he wouldn't be working there tomorrow :
+1
Mike
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
>
> The draft proposal is available at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
> (for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below)
>
> A wave i
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> Simple review: the original email was sent by Dan Peterson from his
> google.com address. I imagine that if Google had a problem with it,
> then he wouldn't be working there tomorrow :-D ... or if this was some
> kind of spurious one-guy-goes-b
Sounds good :-)
On Nov 24, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hi Andrus,
>
> Thanks for your support. I think this'll be a good home for Wave to grow and
> mature.
>
> I've taken the liberty of adding you on the mentor list. :)
>
> Cheers,
> -Dan
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Andr
Yes,
might even be able to persuade my employer to let me slice out some time, but
even it I cant help actively, very interested.
Ian
On 24 Nov 2010, at 18:15, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Ian,
>
> Cool -- I imagine this project could be rather useful for some of your
> education projects.
>
> -Dan
>
Ian,
Cool -- I imagine this project could be rather useful for some of your
education projects.
-Dan
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 3:41 AM, Ian Boston wrote:
> +1
> Would be happy to help of you need any (and if I can find time)
> Ian
>
> On 23 Nov 2010, at 20:16, Dan Peterson wrote:
>
> > Hello all
Hi Vincent,
That's great! I've added you as a Mentor.
-Dan
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Vincent Siveton wrote:
> +1
>
> @Dan if you need one more mentor, you could count me in.
>
> Vincent
>
> 2010/11/23 Dan Peterson :
> > Hello all,
> >
> > We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF
Hi Andrus,
Thanks for your support. I think this'll be a good home for Wave to grow and
mature.
I've taken the liberty of adding you on the mentor list. :)
Cheers,
-Dan
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> +1
>
> I am so happy that after all considerations and suggestions
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
>
> The draft proposal is available at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
> (for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below)
+1
(a bit biased as
The lightwave project I was referring to is over at google code:
http://code.google.com/p/lightwave/
~Michael
On Nov 24, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
> On 24 Nov 2010, at 4:29 , Michael MacFadden wrote:
>
>> I agree, there are other wave implementations popping up, some of which
+1 (non-binding)
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Paul Lindner wrote:
> A hearty +1 from the designated champion to getting Wave into the
> Incubator. I've been especially im
A hearty +1 from the designated champion to getting Wave into the
Incubator. I've been especially impressed with the way the community
has rallied behind the open source implementation and know that it
will do well at Apache.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
+1 (non-binding)
Cheers
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
>
> The draft proposal is available at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
> (for your convenience, a snapshot is also cop
+1
Would be happy to help of you need any (and if I can find time)
Ian
On 23 Nov 2010, at 20:16, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
>
> The draft proposal is available at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
> (for your c
+1
@Dan if you need one more mentor, you could count me in.
Vincent
2010/11/23 Dan Peterson :
> Hello all,
>
> We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
>
> The draft proposal is available at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
> (for your convenience, a snapshot i
+1
Regards, Ate
On 23/11/10 21:16, Dan Peterson wrote:
Hello all,
We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
The draft proposal is available at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
(for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below)
A wave is a hosted, live, co
+1 (non-binding)
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Andrus Adamchik
wrote:
> +1
>
> I am so happy that after all considerations and suggestions that were floated
> in the Wave community, you guys picked Apache as the place to develop Wave
> community and WIAB. Good luck and let me know if you ne
+1
I am so happy that after all considerations and suggestions that were floated
in the Wave community, you guys picked Apache as the place to develop Wave
community and WIAB. Good luck and let me know if you need extra mentors (you
already have 4, so I figured you are covered and didn't add m
+1 (non binding) loved wave, glad it's not going to die!
On Tuesday, November 23, 2010, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
>
> The draft proposal is available at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
> (for your convenience,
>
>
> Lightwave? http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/
No, he's referring to Torben Weis' lightwave:
http://code.google.com/p/lightwave/
--
Chris
iotawave.org
Singapore
On 24 Nov 2010, at 4:29 , Michael MacFadden wrote:
> I agree, there are other wave implementations popping up, some of which
> include "wave" in the name and some don't. "Lightwave" for example is one
> such project. I think that Apache Wave and the Wave in a Box product should
> be fine.
Li
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 22:45, Ralph Goers wrote:
>> On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:47, Ralph Goers
>>> wrote:
...
OK - Have they explicitly OK'd Apache Wave? While Apache Wave would
This sounds really interesting - it would be good to have an Apache Wave
project. We already have an implementation of the Wave Gadget API in Wookie
(and I contributed a new one recently in Node.js) so there could be some useful
crossover there.
On 24 Nov 2010, at 07:32, Christian Grobmeier wro
Would love to see Google Wave at Apache. I was very excited when
Google once announced it.
About trademark: there was an Adobe Wave before Google Wave announced
its service. I am not afraid of any trademark issues, when there is an
Apache Wave.
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Soren Lassen wrote
Super. Thanks for bringing the trademark issue to our attention and
prompting us to add the Trademarks section to the proposal.
Soren
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
> Thanks. That answers my only concern. I think this would be a great addition.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 22:45, Ralph Goers wrote:
> On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:47, Ralph Goers
>> wrote:
>>> ...
>>> OK - Have they explicitly OK'd Apache Wave? While Apache Wave would
>>> certainly be unique to Apache, if Google intends to kee
+1 (binding).
Cheers,
Chris
On Nov 23, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
>
> The draft proposal is available at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
> (for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied be
Ralph,
Your due diligence is appropriate and appreciated. Thanks.
~Michael
On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:20 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
> Thanks. That answers my only concern. I think this would be a great addition.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Soren Lassen wrote:
>
>> I wo
Thanks. That answers my only concern. I think this would be a great addition.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Soren Lassen wrote:
> I work for Google and I speak on the behalf of the Google Wave team. I
> can assure you that Google supports the Apache Wave proposal. We
> always
I work for Google and I speak on the behalf of the Google Wave team. I
can assure you that Google supports the Apache Wave proposal. We
always wanted to transfer ownership of the open source code to the
developer community and, with the discontinuation of development of
Google Wave as a standalone
On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:47, Ralph Goers wrote:
>> ...
>> OK - Have they explicitly OK'd Apache Wave? While Apache Wave would
>> certainly be unique to Apache, if Google intends to keep using Google Wave
>> (and Wave as a shorthand) this woul
I agree, there are other wave implementations popping up, some of which include
"wave" in the name and some don't. "Lightwave" for example is one such
project. I think that Apache Wave and the Wave in a Box product should be fine.
Also, as Dan points out "Google Wave" product is going to cease
While Google owns the Google Wave trademark, they don't own the very generic
"Wave".
Apache Wave will be a separate thing and unaffected by any trademark that
Google owns.
James Purser
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:47, Ralph Goers
> wrote:
> >
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:47, Ralph Goers wrote:
>...
> OK - Have they explicitly OK'd Apache Wave? While Apache Wave would
> certainly be unique to Apache, if Google intends to keep using Google Wave
> (and Wave as a shorthand) this would get very confusing.
Don't you think that by proposing
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
> On Nov 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, David Wang wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Ralph Goers <
> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Leif Hedstrom wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 11/23/2010 04:44 PM, Ralph
On Nov 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, David Wang wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Ralph Goers
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Leif Hedstrom wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/23/2010 04:44 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
On Nov 23, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hello all,
>>>
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
> On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Leif Hedstrom wrote:
>
> > On 11/23/2010 04:44 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
> >> On Nov 23, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>
> >>> We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incu
On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Leif Hedstrom wrote:
> On 11/23/2010 04:44 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>> On Nov 23, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
>>>
>>
>> Did Google have any trademarks on Wave and are th
On 11/23/2010 04:44 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
On Nov 23, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
Hello all,
We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
Did Google have any trademarks on Wave and are they allowing them to be
transferred to the ASF?
Certainly looks like they do
On Nov 23, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
>
Did Google have any trademarks on Wave and are they allowing them to be
transferred to the ASF?
Ralph
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