RE: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Leo Simons wrote: > Is the issue now resolved as far as the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list > is concerned We can hope. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-12 Thread Leo Simons
Stephen McConnell wrote: Stephen McConnell wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: unnecessary and unwarranted disruption of an incubator project Let it go. >> >> I would like to retract my comments above. good! This sounds like progress. Is the issue now resolved as far as the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list is co

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-10 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stephen McConnell wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: unnecessary and unwarranted disruption of an incubator project Let it go. No one other than you is characterizing it that way. Just let it go. I let it go for three months and now I'm seeing the consequences on not speaking up earlier. If peopl

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-10 Thread Stephen McConnell
Noel J. Bergman wrote: unnecessary and unwarranted disruption of an incubator project Let it go. No one other than you is characterizing it that way. Just let it go. I let it go for three months and now I'm seeing the consequences on not speaking up earlier. If people here think it is appropri

RE: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-10 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> unnecessary and unwarranted disruption of an incubator project Let it go. No one other than you is characterizing it that way. Just let it go. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional comm

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-10 Thread Stephen McConnell
Brian Behlendorf wrote: On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Steven Noels wrote: Please, not here. I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" this flamefest. At least I am not, and I can imagine that neither gen

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-10 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Steven Noels wrote: Please, not here. I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" this flamefest. At least I am not, and I can imagine that neither general@ nor [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-09 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Steven Noels wrote: > > Please, not here. I'm quite confident that a good portion of the > inhabitants of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" > this flamefest. At least I am not, and I can imagine that neither > general@ nor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-09 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Steven Noels wrote: ... But that is not what we are talking about ATM... I see two persons bringing bad vibes into the wrong places. That will reflect badly upon both of them. What I was trying to suggest is that those persons try and find a solution amongst themselves. David Blevins wrote: ...

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Steven Noels
On 09 Jul 2004, at 03:44, David Blevins wrote: I really don't want to get caught in the cross-fire, but...you could call each other up and talk/yell this out on the phone and get the argument over quickly. +1, but some people just *need* the audience, alas. ;-) (now i'm really gone) -- Steven Noel

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread David Blevins
On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 12:09:13AM +0200, Stephen McConnell wrote: > Sander Striker wrote: > > >>From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sorry but Nicola Ken is not qualified. I'm sorry Nicola but > >>you instigated this and only you can fix it. > > > > > >Stephen, saying that som

RE: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> > I've suggested to Nicola Ken that he start work on a web page to > > cover ideals, techniques and scenarios [regarding communication > > skills and other useful community building techniques.] > > I figure your suggestion and the assumedly planned work can't have > anything to do with what is h

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Stephen McConnell
Sander Striker wrote: From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:58 PM Noel J. Bergman wrote: I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" this flamefest. +1 There is a sense in whic

RE: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Sander Striker
> From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:58 PM > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > >>I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants of this > >>list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" > >>this flamefest. > > > > > > +1 > > > > Ther

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Steven Noels
On 08 Jul 2004, at 20:48, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" this flamefest. +1 There is a sense in which a general discussion on community building techniques and communication skills is worth

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Stephen McConnell
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I've suggested to Nicola Ken that he start work on a web page to cover ideals, techniques and scenarios [related to community building and conversation skills] -1 Sorry but Nicola Ken is not qualified. Your opinion is noted, but that is not your call to make. I asked him i

RE: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> I've suggested to Nicola Ken that he start work on a web page > to cover ideals, techniques and scenarios [related to community > building and conversation skills] > -1 > Sorry but Nicola Ken is not qualified. Your opinion is noted, but that is not your call to make. I asked him if he would vo

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
IL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:58 PM Subject: Re: Personal attacks and respect > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > >>I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants > >>of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" &g

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Stephen McConnell
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" this flamefest. +1 There is a sense in which a general discussion on community building techniques and communication skills is worthwhile. I've suggested to

RE: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants > of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" > this flamefest. +1 There is a sense in which a general discussion on community building techniques and communication skills is worthwhile. I've suggested to Nicola Ken that

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Could you please stop lowering the signal-to-noise ratio of this mailing list? Thanks, Andreas - Original Message - From: "Stephen McConnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:38 PM Subject: Re: Personal attacks and resp

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Steven Noels
On 08 Jul 2004, at 18:38, Stephen McConnell wrote: Brian McCallister wrote: As an innocent bystander of the flamewar that spawned this email: Nicola commented on some technical changes, it started deteriorating into shed painting, Nicola posted an email on de-escalating conflict in technical di

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Stephen McConnell
Brian McCallister wrote: As an innocent bystander of the flamewar that spawned this email: Nicola commented on some technical changes, it started deteriorating into shed painting, Nicola posted an email on de-escalating conflict in technical discussions, then Stephen attacked Nicola directly fo

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Brian McCallister
As an innocent bystander of the flamewar that spawned this email: Nicola commented on some technical changes, it started deteriorating into shed painting, Nicola posted an email on de-escalating conflict in technical discussions, then Stephen attacked Nicola directly for some as-yet-unspecifi

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Stephen McConnell
Nicola: If you have a problem with my annoyance at your presumption to preach - then present it here away from any particular project. Stephen. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PRO