Re: counting downloads

2007-05-06 Thread Xavier Hanin
FYI, Vadim is already providing stats on some (non incubating) projects: http://people.apache.org/~vgritsenko/stats/projects/index.html I don't know if it's easy for him to add incubating projects, and how he deals with mirrors. In a sense even if the download counter is not accurate, I agree

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/3/07, Daniel Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noel, On Thursday 03 May 2007 03:59, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Except you forget one detail: incubator artifacts don't go to the mirror system. And that's changing/changed. Can I ask when?The vote that was called in mid march [1] never

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/3/07, Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/2/07, Garrett Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do other projects have a good way to track this? I know we could pull the logs for the p.a.o webserver and grep through them looking for things, but I'm wondering if there's something we can

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-06 Thread Daniel Kulp
Thanks for the clarification Robert. I'm glad we didn't mess something up. :-) I'll definitely keep an eye on the various threads for information about the changes. It all sounds very good to me. :-) Dan On Sunday 06 May 2007 06:55, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 5/3/07, Daniel Kulp

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-05 Thread Marshall Schor
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Garrett Rooney wrote: The mirror system makes this an essentially unsolvable problem. And in addition to all of your other valid points, there is the problem of having a a farm of caching proxies on the ISP side of the net, leading to the seemingly odd case

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-05 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 5/5/07, Marshall Schor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One confusion I have: If we count clicks on the download link, it seems that even if that link led to a mirror page, it would count pretty accurately (except of course if a person clicked to download, and then didn't bother going through with

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-05 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Unless they don't download it via your link, or they download more than once (getting copies on multiple machines?), or any number of other things that can throw your numbers off. It's a losing battle for statistics that IMO aren't very useful anyway. All download counts are good for is ego

RE: counting downloads

2007-05-03 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Except you forget one detail: incubator artifacts don't go to the mirror system. And that's changing/changed. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-03 Thread Daniel Kulp
Noel, On Thursday 03 May 2007 03:59, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Except you forget one detail: incubator artifacts don't go to the mirror system. And that's changing/changed. Can I ask when?The vote that was called in mid march [1] never had a result posted. The discussion [2] that

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-03 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/2/07, Garrett Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do other projects have a good way to track this? I know we could pull the logs for the p.a.o webserver and grep through them looking for things, but I'm wondering if there's something we can put on our download page that users would click

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-02 Thread Luciano Resende
Yes, I'd be interested in this information for the Apache Tuscany downloads as well... On 5/2/07, Marshall Schor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're curious to see how many downloads we're getting, perhaps sorted by ip number or who's downloading (I realize that would need be volunteered

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-02 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 5/2/07, Marshall Schor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're curious to see how many downloads we're getting, perhaps sorted by ip number or who's downloading (I realize that would need be volunteered information). Do other projects have a good way to track this? I know we could pull the logs for

RE: counting downloads

2007-05-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Garrett Rooney wrote: The mirror system makes this an essentially unsolvable problem. And in addition to all of your other valid points, there is the problem of having a a farm of caching proxies on the ISP side of the net, leading to the seemingly odd case that the more popular a download, the

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-02 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 18:43, Garrett Rooney wrote: The mirror system makes this an essentially unsolvable problem. Not to mention the fact that you have no clue if people are actually getting the code from one of our mirrors at all, they could get it from a linux distribution, or any

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-02 Thread Luciano Resende
Thanks Dan, indeed, as Tuscany is still under incubation, mirrors and other things won't apply. Did anybody ever created a script to parse the logs and provide totals ? On 5/2/07, Daniel Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 02 May 2007 18:43, Garrett Rooney wrote: The mirror system