Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-10 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> ...The very first line of this thread is a link to an INFRA ticket. A >> comment on that ticket links to this very thread... > >

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > ...The very first line of this thread is a link to an INFRA ticket. A > comment on that ticket links to this very thread... Ok thanks! It would be nice to change the title of that

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-10 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 3:38 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> ...Can I just work with the infrastructure team to >> make this happen? Do we need a formal vote?.. > > As Marvin explains very

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > ...Can I just work with the infrastructure team to > make this happen? Do we need a formal vote?.. As Marvin explains very well I don't think we need a formal vote but I'd like whatever actions are taken, as well as their

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-09 Thread John D. Ament
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 6:51 PM Sam Ruby wrote: > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 6:29 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > [...] > > 3. The interface itself needs to be able to track committers and PPMC > > members differently. I've created > >

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-09 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 6:29 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > [...] > 3. The interface itself needs to be able to track committers and PPMC > members differently. I've created > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIMSY-84 to track this need (since > all committers == all

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-09 Thread John D. Ament
Sam Thanks for the long response, sometimes length beats crispness. Some comments in line, summary of my thoughts towards the end. I will say - I'm glad that it looks like we're aligned with long term goals. On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:42 PM Sam Ruby wrote: > On Sun, Apr

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-09 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 11:09 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 2:23 PM Sam Ruby wrote: > >> What's the next step? Can I just work with the infrastructure team to >> make this happen? Do we need a formal vote? >> > Can you clarify

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-09 Thread John D. Ament
On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 2:23 PM Sam Ruby wrote: > What's the next step? Can I just work with the infrastructure team to > make this happen? Do we need a formal vote? > > Can you clarify what exactly you're going to ask infra to change? I see that infra has made a gitbox

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-08 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > What's the next step? Can I just work with the infrastructure team to > make this happen? Do we need a formal vote? In my view there is no need for a vote. This is not covered on the Incubation_Policy page as far as I

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-08 Thread Sam Ruby
What's the next step? Can I just work with the infrastructure team to make this happen? Do we need a formal vote? - Sam Ruby On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 1:06 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > Background, from https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13804 > >> With this feedback and

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-06 Thread Sam Ruby
John, your email confuses me for many reasons. On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 6:57 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > This solution describes one of the many reasons I feel the incubator itself > is broken. We're trying to rewrite policy, as a means to work around some > awkward setup

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-06 Thread Shane Curcuru
John D. Ament wrote on 4/6/17 6:57 AM: > This solution describes one of the many reasons I feel the incubator itself > is broken. We're trying to rewrite policy, as a means to work around some > awkward setup sitting around, instead of just treating podlings as regular > projects, with some

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-06 Thread Felix Meschberger
Hi I think this sounds very reasonable. +1 Regards Felix > Am 06.04.2017 um 07:06 schrieb Sam Ruby : > > Background, from https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13804 > >> With this feedback and review, I believe we're still operating as expected. >> >> * Per

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-06 Thread John D. Ament
This solution describes one of the many reasons I feel the incubator itself is broken. We're trying to rewrite policy, as a means to work around some awkward setup sitting around, instead of just treating podlings as regular projects, with some restrictions in place. Create something in ldap

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 7:06 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > ...I believe that the alternative is technically feasible: have each podling > manage a list of committers for that podling: > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/ Which is what they will have to do anyway after

Re: Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-06 Thread Ted Dunning
That conclusion sounds pretty scary in isolation. But if taken along the garden path in small steps, it seems really very right. Given that under this proposal any IPMC member could get access to anything needed, I don't see any particular loss. Also, with reasonable whimsy tooling, the

Revisit policy that all IPMC members have commit privs to all incubator repositories.

2017-04-05 Thread Sam Ruby
Background, from https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13804 With this feedback and review, I believe we're still operating as expected. * Per current policy, IPMC members have commit privileges on all Incubator repositories. * The above is effected through the use of a private GitHub