Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-30 Thread Ted Dunning
Same reason you hear "can't trademark certain parts of speech". Half informed zealots go off half cocked. For instance, here is apparently authoritative advice that a trademark can only be an adjective: http://www.ramseylawgroup.com/viewarticle.php?id=21 And here is a real world analysis:

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-28 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/28/16, 3:26 AM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" wrote: >I prefer Beam ;) I like the name and the logic behind choosing it. Some concerns are that a Google search of "Beam Software" turned up [1] and [2] among others, which might mean that Apache Beam won't work as a TLP name.

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-28 Thread Greg Stein
As a regular english word, "beam" cannot be trademarked, by others/us. Yet the *pair* of words, "Apache Beam" can be implicitly/explicitly trademarked. On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 1/28/16, 3:26 AM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré"

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-28 Thread Doug Cutting
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > As a regular english word, "beam" cannot be trademarked, by others/us. Like Windows® or Apple®? Doug - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-28 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
LOL ;) Regards JB On 01/28/2016 01:00 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: Hi Bertrand, Your suggested name only has an entropy of 0.19153. You may consider adding a special character or two :). To standardize (every company seems to like this lately) we may consider using SHA-256 for our project

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Serge Huber wrote: > ...Please ignore my last message, I missed the fact that a project was > already existing > with the name “Arrow”... Hehe, that's the risk when using common names, with about 200 projects here. Naming your project

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-28 Thread Serge Huber
On a lighter side… Just to mess with you guys if you’re looking at an alternative name I might suggest : Apache Arrow I thought of this because I was thinking of how an arrow flows through the air, might be deviated, and it also associates with something sharp, dangerous and fast :) And of

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:22 PM, James Malone wrote: > ...To that end, the name we propose to use is: > > Apache Beam The name sounds good to me and it's indeed a good idea to set it now. -Bertrand

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-28 Thread Serge Huber
Please ignore my last message, I missed the fact that a project was already existing with the name “Arrow”. cheers, Serge… > On 28 janv. 2016, at 11:01, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:22 PM, James Malone >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-28 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
I prefer Beam ;) Regards JB On 01/28/2016 12:25 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Serge Huber wrote: ...Please ignore my last message, I missed the fact that a project was already existing with the name “Arrow”... Hehe, that's the risk when

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-28 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Hi Bertrand, Your suggested name only has an entropy of 0.19153. You may consider adding a special character or two :). To standardize (every company seems to like this lately) we may consider using SHA-256 for our project names. Being of fixed length it will help Sally in her templates for

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-28 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Doug Cutting wrote: > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > > As a regular english word, "beam" cannot be trademarked, by others/us. > > Like Windows® or Apple®? oh, snap. True. Hrm. Given that, I'm

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-28 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 28 Jan 16, at 21:47, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Doug Cutting wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >>> As a regular english word, "beam" cannot be trademarked, by others/us. >>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-27 Thread James Malone
Hi everyone, Based on the feedback concerning naming, we would like to rename the proposal and the project. We want to do this early to ensure we don't disrupt the project based on naming. To that end, the name we propose to use is: Apache Beam The name Beam is based on a joining of Batch and

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-26 Thread Renaud Richardet
Bonjour, Please add me to “Additional Interested Contributors” section as well. I am an Apache UIMA committer, and would like to use Dataflow to process large amounts of text [1]. I just started a POC [2] and really like the API so far. Thanks, Renaud [1] https://github.com/BlueBrain/bluima

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Bonjour Renaud, On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Renaud Richardet wrote: > ...Please add me to “Additional Interested Contributors” section as well I've done this, happily! (JB I hope you don't mind). (I know Renaud for quite some time and I think he can make great

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-26 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Renaud and Bertrand, No worries Bertrand ! And thanks Renaud ;) Regards JB On 01/26/2016 04:19 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Bonjour Renaud, On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Renaud Richardet wrote: ...Please add me to “Additional Interested Contributors” section as

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-24 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hey Ajay, great: I added you on the proposal. Thanks ! Regards JB On 01/25/2016 06:25 AM, Ajay Yadav wrote: Great proposal. I would also like to contribute to the project especially the Python SDK, if possible. Cheers Ajay Yadava On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 1:25 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-24 Thread Ajay Yadav
Great proposal. I would also like to contribute to the project especially the Python SDK, if possible. Cheers Ajay Yadava On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 1:25 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi Seshu, > > it does both: streaming and batching data processing. > > Regards > JB > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-23 Thread Adunuthula, Seshu
Did not get a chance to play with it yet, Within Google is it used more as a MR replacement or a Stream processing engine? Or it does both of them fantastically well? On 1/22/16, 10:58 AM, "Frances Perry" wrote: >Crunch started as a clone of FlumeJava, which was Google

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-23 Thread Luke Han
Very great proposal! Agreed to Stain, the name, Dataflow, is used widely long time, maybe should think about another one. Thanks. Best Regards! - Luke Han On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 1/22/16, 10:58 AM, "Frances Perry"

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-23 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Seshu, it does both: streaming and batching data processing. Regards JB On 01/23/2016 03:01 PM, Adunuthula, Seshu wrote: Did not get a chance to play with it yet, Within Google is it used more as a MR replacement or a Stream processing engine? Or it does both of them fantastically well?

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-22 Thread Frances Perry
Crunch started as a clone of FlumeJava, which was Google internal. In the meantime inside Google, FlumeJava evolved into Dataflow. So all three share a number of concepts like PCollections, ParDo, DoFn, etc. However, Dataflow adds a number of new things -- the biggest being a unified

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-22 Thread Ashish
Thanks Frances ! That explains it. Wrote a couple of posts on basic usage of Crunch, may be its time to rewrite them with Dataflow. On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Frances Perry wrote: > Crunch started as a clone of FlumeJava, which was Google internal. In the >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-22 Thread Ashish
Crunch has Spark pipelines, but not sure about the runner abstraction. May be Josh Wills or Tom White can provide more insight on this topic. They are core devs for both projects :) On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi, > > I don't know deeply

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-22 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
It makes perfect sense, and it's something that we already discussed. Thanks James and Marvin. @James, yes, we are going to deal with that together, not a problem at all. I agree that renaming should happen now. As discussed, we should be back with a new name early next week. I'm happy to

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-22 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
-Original Message- From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:j...@nanthrax.net] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:38 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal Hi, great: I added you in the proposal. Thanks ! Regards JB On 01/21/2016 12:24 AM, Prasanth

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-22 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Mayank, sure: you are in. Thanks ! Regards JB On 01/22/2016 12:29 AM, Mayank Bansal wrote: Hi Jean, Nice Proposal. I wanted to contribute to this project. Can you please add me too? Thanks a lot for the help Thanks, Mayank On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-22 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Supun, I added you on the proposal. Thanks ! Regards JB On 01/22/2016 12:37 AM, Supun Kamburugamuve wrote: We are developing parallel machine learning algorithms for a research project and are very interested in DataFlow. I would like to contribute to this project as well. It will be great

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-22 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/22/16, 10:58 AM, "Frances Perry" wrote: >Crunch started as a clone of FlumeJava, which was Google internal. In the >meantime inside Google, FlumeJava evolved into Dataflow. So all three >share >a number of concepts like PCollections, ParDo, DoFn, etc. However,

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-22 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Seshu, I blogged about Apache Dataflow proposal: http://blog.nanthrax.net/2016/01/introducing-apache-dataflow/ You can see in the "what's next ?" section that new runners, skins and sources are on our roadmap. Definitely, a storm runner could be part of this. Regards JB On 01/22/2016

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-22 Thread Ashish
Hi JB, Curious to know about how it compares to Apache Crunch? Constructs looks very familiar (had used Crunch long ago) Thoughts? - Ashish On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:33 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi Seshu, > > I blogged about Apache Dataflow proposal: >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-22 Thread Adunuthula, Seshu
Awesome to see CloudDataFlow coming to Apache. The Stream Processing area has been in general fragmented with a variety of solutions, hoping the community galvanizes around Apache Data Flow. We are still in the "Apache Storm" world, Any chance for folks building a "Storm Runner²? On 1/20/16,

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-22 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
As a committer of another "dataflow" incubator Taverna, I think this looks like an exciting proposal. Agree on the confusion of the name, and it's probably better to get that sorted early. In Taverna we have used the term "dataflow" since 2004, and as a concept the paradigm was created in the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-22 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi, I don't know deeply Crunch, but AFAIK, Crunch creates MapReduce pipeline, it doesn't provide runner abstraction. It's based on FlumeJava. The logic is very similar (with DoFns, pipelines, ...). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Crunch started after Google Dataflow, especially because

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-21 Thread chatz
Charitha Elvitigala On 21 January 2016 at 16:17, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi Chatz, > > sure, what name should I use on the proposal, Charitha ? > > Regards > JB > > > On 01/21/2016 11:32 AM, chatz wrote: > >> Hi Jean, >> >> I’d be interested in contributing as well. >>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Chatz, sure, what name should I use on the proposal, Charitha ? Regards JB On 01/21/2016 11:32 AM, chatz wrote: Hi Jean, I’d be interested in contributing as well. Thanks, Chatz On 21 January 2016 at 14:22, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Sweet: you are on the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Perfect: done, you are on the proposal. Thanks ! Regards JB On 01/21/2016 11:55 AM, chatz wrote: Charitha Elvitigala On 21 January 2016 at 16:17, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Hi Chatz, sure, what name should I use on the proposal, Charitha ? Regards JB On 01/21/2016

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-21 Thread chatz
Hi Jean, I’d be interested in contributing as well. Thanks, Chatz On 21 January 2016 at 14:22, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Sweet: you are on the proposal ;) > > Thanks ! > Regards > JB > > > On 01/21/2016 08:55 AM, Byung-Gon Chun wrote: > >> This looks very interesting.

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Sweet: you are on the proposal ;) Thanks ! Regards JB On 01/21/2016 08:55 AM, Byung-Gon Chun wrote: This looks very interesting. I'm interested in contributing. Thanks. -Gon --- Byung-Gon Chun On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 1:32 AM, James Malone < jamesmal...@google.com.invalid> wrote: Hello

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Alexander Bezzubov
Hi, it's great to see DataFlow becoming part to Apache ecosystem, thank you bringing it in. I would be happy to get involved and help. -- Alex On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Perfect: done, you are on the proposal. > > Thanks ! > Regards > JB

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:30 PM, James Malone wrote: > If we need to rename, we would ideally choose a new name, change the > project name at that time, and start our refactoring with that new name. Is > is acceptable for us to flag a name change as something we

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hey Alex, awesome: I added you on the proposal. Thanks, Regards JB On 01/21/2016 05:03 PM, Alexander Bezzubov wrote: Hi, it's great to see DataFlow becoming part to Apache ecosystem, thank you bringing it in. I would be happy to get involved and help. -- Alex On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 8:42

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Supun Kamburugamuve
We are developing parallel machine learning algorithms for a research project and are very interested in DataFlow. I would like to contribute to this project as well. It will be great if you can add me. Thanks, Supun... On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Mayank Bansal wrote:

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Mayank Bansal
Hi Jean, Nice Proposal. I wanted to contribute to this project. Can you please add me too? Thanks a lot for the help Thanks, Mayank On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hey Alex, > > awesome: I added you on the proposal. > > Thanks, > Regards >

RE: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Tsuyoshi Ozawa
To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal Hi, great: I added you in the proposal. Thanks ! Regards JB On 01/21/2016 12:24 AM, Prasanth Jayachandran wrote: > Hi Jean > > I’d be interested in contributing as well. > > Thanks > Pra

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-21 Thread James Malone
Thank you for such a detailed response Marvin! Everything you mention makes a lot of sense. Needless to say, we don't want to squander cycles, break any rules, or throw velocity into disarray all due to a name. To that end, I am going to work with JB to amend the proposal with respect to

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
t news the project is going to move to Apache. I'd be interested in contributing too Regards Krzysztof -- View this message in context: http://apache-incubator-general.996316.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Apache-Dataflow-Incubator-Proposal-tp47985p48025.html Sent from the Apache Incubator - General mailin

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
, at 5:20 PM, ksobkowiak <krzys.sobkow...@gmail.com> wrote: It's a great news the project is going to move to Apache. I'd be interested in contributing too Regards Krzysztof -- View this message in context: http://apache-incubator-general.996316.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Apache-Dataflow-

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Apache. I'd be interested in contributing too Regards Krzysztof -- View this message in context: http://apache-incubator-general.996316.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Apache-Dataflow-Incubator-Proposal-tp47985p48025.html Sent from the Apache Incubator - General mailing list archive at

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Hao Chen
Nice proposal, exactly matches with what we wanna do in some projects, interested to contribute. Regards, Hao On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:32 AM, James Malone < jamesmal...@google.com.invalid> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Attached to this message is a proposed new project - Apache Dataflow, a >

RE: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Edward J. Yoon
sage in context: http://apache-incubator-general.996316.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Apache-Dataflow -Incubator-Proposal-tp47985p48025.html > Sent from the Apache Incubator - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ---

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
2016 2:39 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal Cool ! I added you on the proposal. Regards JB On 01/21/2016 12:20 AM, ksobkowiak wrote: It's a great news the project is going to move to Apache. I'd be interested in contributing to

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
I added you on the proposal. Thanks ! Regards JB On 01/21/2016 07:36 AM, Hao Chen wrote: Nice proposal, exactly matches with what we wanna do in some projects, interested to contribute. Regards, Hao On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:32 AM, James Malone < jamesmal...@google.com.invalid> wrote:

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Byung-Gon Chun
This looks very interesting. I'm interested in contributing. Thanks. -Gon --- Byung-Gon Chun On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 1:32 AM, James Malone < jamesmal...@google.com.invalid> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Attached to this message is a proposed new project - Apache Dataflow, a > unified

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Debo Dutta (dedutta)
Hi JB Would love to join now. regards debo On 1/20/16, 9:31 AM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" wrote: >Hi Debo, > >Awesome: do you want to join now (in the initial committer list) and >once we are in the incubation ? > >Let me know, I can update the proposal. > >Regards >JB > >On

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > We're proposing Apache Dataflow naming because Google Cloud Dataflow is an > already known name and "brand". I don't see anything in the proposal about Google ceasing the use of the brand "Google Cloud Dataflow".

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi all, I second James there, and really excited to be champion on the project (and work on the codebase as well). I blogged about a quick dataflow technical introduction: http://blog.nanthrax.net/2016/01/introducing-apache-dataflow/ Thanks James ! We are looking forward your feedbacks.

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Sean Busbey
Great proposal. I like that your proposal includes a well presented roadmap, but I don't see any goals that directly address building a larger community. Y'all have any ideas around outreach that will help with adoption? As a start, I recommend y'all add a section to the proposal on the wiki page

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread James Malone
> Great proposal. I like that your proposal includes a well presented > roadmap, but I don't see any goals that directly address building a larger > community. Y'all have any ideas around outreach that will help with > adoption? > Thank you and fair point. We have a few additional ideas which we

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Great, I add you in the initial committer list then ;) I quickly discussed with James, we gonna create a section for additional people as proposed by Sean. Thanks ! Regards JB On 01/20/2016 06:33 PM, Debo Dutta (dedutta) wrote: Hi JB Would love to join now. regards debo On 1/20/16, 9:31

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Good point Marvin, Google Dataflow SDK will "disappear" for Apache Dataflow, but you are right, the complete Dataflow "brand" will stay at Google. Let me double check with James and the team. Regards JB On 01/20/2016 06:40 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:17 AM,

[DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread James Malone
Hello everyone, Attached to this message is a proposed new project - Apache Dataflow, a unified programming model for data processing and integration. The text of the proposal is included below. Additionally, the proposal is in draft form on the wiki where we will make any required changes:

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Sean, It's a fair point, but not present in most of the proposals. It's something that we can address in the "Community" section. Regards JB On 01/20/2016 05:55 PM, Sean Busbey wrote: Great proposal. I like that your proposal includes a well presented roadmap, but I don't see any goals

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Debo, Awesome: do you want to join now (in the initial committer list) and once we are in the incubation ? Let me know, I can update the proposal. Regards JB On 01/20/2016 06:23 PM, Debo Dutta (dedutta) wrote: +1 Proposal looks good. Also a small section on relationships with Apache

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Yes, you are right, we also know that other companies use dataflow wording (it's the case at Hortonworks for instance). We gonna start a thread to propose alternative names. Regards JB On 01/20/2016 06:41 PM, Gregory Chase wrote: This is also a similarly named Spring project:

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread James Carman
Well, I for one would be very interested in this project and would be happy to contribute. On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:09 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi Sean, > > It's a fair point, but not present in most of the proposals. It's > something that we can address in the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Gregory Chase
This is also a similarly named Spring project: http://cloud.spring.io/spring-cloud-dataflow/ On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré > wrote: > > > We're proposing Apache Dataflow

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
As suggested, I added "Additional Interested Contributors" section, and already added Debo. Thanks ! Regards JB On 01/20/2016 05:55 PM, Sean Busbey wrote: Great proposal. I like that your proposal includes a well presented roadmap, but I don't see any goals that directly address building a

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Henry Saputra
This is great proposal. Been working with Apache Flink for a while so love to help with this project. - Henry On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 8:32 AM, James Malone < jamesmal...@google.com.invalid> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Attached to this message is a proposed new project - Apache Dataflow, a >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Marvin, you raise a point that we have a bit anticipated ;) We're proposing Apache Dataflow naming because Google Cloud Dataflow is an already known name and "brand". The naming is not directly related to dataflow programming: it's more representative of the data flowing inside a

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Debo Dutta (dedutta)
+1 Proposal looks good. Also a small section on relationships with Apache Storm and Apache Samza would be great. I would like to sign up, to help/contribute. debo On 1/20/16, 8:55 AM, "Sean Busbey" wrote: >Great proposal. I like that your proposal includes a well

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 8:32 AM, James Malone wrote: > == Abstract == > > Dataflow is an open source, unified model and set of language-specific SDKs > for defining and executing data processing workflows, and also data > ingestion and integration flows,

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Marko Rodriguez
Hi, This is a cool idea. Its like Apache TinkerPop (http://tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org/) but for data flow/stream systems as opposed to graph systems. Our tag line is "the JDBC for graphs." You would be "the JDBC for streams." :) You might be interested in looking TinkerPop's Gremlin

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
You are on the proposal ;) Thanks ! Regards JB On 01/20/2016 08:04 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: Nice proposal. I’d be interested in contributing as well. I’m about at my mentor limit with projects, but I’d be willing to contribute in other/similar ways. -Taylor On Jan 20, 2016, at 12:46 PM,

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi James, Can I add your to the proposal ? Regards JB On 01/20/2016 07:20 PM, James Carman wrote: Well, I for one would be very interested in this project and would be happy to contribute. On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:09 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Hi Sean, It's a

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Liang Chen
good proposal, look forward to participating this project contribution. -- View this message in context: http://apache-incubator-general.996316.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Apache-Dataflow-Incubator-Proposal-tp47985p48014.html Sent from the Apache Incubator - General mailing list archive

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
Nice proposal. I’d be interested in contributing as well. I’m about at my mentor limit with projects, but I’d be willing to contribute in other/similar ways. -Taylor > On Jan 20, 2016, at 12:46 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > > Great, I add you in the initial committer

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hey James, you are on the proposal ;) Thanks ! Regards JB On 01/20/2016 07:20 PM, James Carman wrote: Well, I for one would be very interested in this project and would be happy to contribute. On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:09 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Hi Sean, It's

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread James Carman
Of course! I'd be happy to help On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:02 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi James, > > Can I add your to the proposal ? > > Regards > JB > > On 01/20/2016 07:20 PM, James Carman wrote: > > Well, I for one would be very interested in this project and would

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Joe Witt
Hello This is a very interesting proposal and concept. I'd like to contribute. Thanks Joe On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:50 PM, James Carman wrote: > Of course! I'd be happy to help > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:02 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré > wrote: >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Cool: you are on the proposal Regards JB On 01/20/2016 09:52 PM, Vaibhav Gumashta wrote: Hi Jean, I¹d like to contribute as well. Thanks, ‹Vaibhav On 1/20/16, 11:19 AM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" wrote: Hey James, you are on the proposal ;) Thanks ! Regards JB On

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread David Jencks
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 8:32 AM, James Malone > wrote: > > The Dataflow programming model has been designed with simplicity, > scalability, and speed as key tenants. s/tenants/tenets? david jencks

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Vaibhav Gumashta
Hi Jean, I¹d like to contribute as well. Thanks, ‹Vaibhav On 1/20/16, 11:19 AM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" wrote: >Hey James, > >you are on the proposal ;) > >Thanks ! >Regards >JB > >On 01/20/2016 07:20 PM, James Carman wrote: >> Well, I for one would be very interested in

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Great: you are on the proposal. Regards JB On 01/20/2016 09:00 PM, Joe Witt wrote: Hello This is a very interesting proposal and concept. I'd like to contribute. Thanks Joe On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:50 PM, James Carman wrote: Of course! I'd be happy to help

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Prasanth Jayachandran
> Regards > Krzysztof > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://apache-incubator-general.996316.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Apache-Dataflow-Incubator-Proposal-tp47985p48025.html > Sent from the Apache Incuba

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread ksobkowiak
It's a great news the project is going to move to Apache. I'd be interested in contributing too Regards Krzysztof -- View this message in context: http://apache-incubator-general.996316.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Apache-Dataflow-Incubator-Proposal-tp47985p48025.html Sent from the Apache Incubator

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread James Malone
> > > I don't see anything in the proposal about Google ceasing the use of the > brand > "Google Cloud Dataflow". Yet the co-existence of "Google Cloud Dataflow" > and > "Apache Dataflow" would conflict with Apache requirements for vendor > neutrality and project independence. > > The issue seems

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Johan Edstrom
chandran >> >>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 5:20 PM, ksobkowiak <krzys.sobkow...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> It's a great news the project is going to move to Apache. I'd be >> interested >>> in contributing too >>> >>> Regar

RE: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Edward J. Yoon
Wow .. great news! -- Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon -Original Message- From: Johan Edstrom [mailto:seij...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 8:56 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal Looking forward, also interested

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Dataflow Incubator Proposal

2016-01-20 Thread Hugo Louro
ted > > in contributing too > > > > Regards > > Krzysztof > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://apache-incubator-general.996316.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Apache-Dataflow-Incub