Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

on 2003/4/1 6:08 PM, "Ben Walding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is called "value-adding" in > the commercial world. Some of you communist coding hippies may not have > heard of this. Of course there is no value in open source since it is all free. =) -jon -- BU** SH** --

Re: Eyebrowse problem?

on 2003/3/24 10:11 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With all due respect Jon, he doesn't have sufficient access to > volunteer. You need a new phrase > "thanks for volunteering for the campaign" ;-) > > Not as catchy, I admit. > > -Andy The 'access' clause is bullshit as wel

Re: Eyebrowse problem?

on 2003/3/24 6:42 AM, "Danny Angus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FYI theres been a lot of talk recently about eybrowse, it has been not working > for several lists, not just Tapestry. Theres also been some discussion about > tracking infrastructure issues. Needless to say there are two points of v

Re: Eyebrowse problem?

on 2003/3/23 4:24 PM, "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many of my users have complained that Tapestry is no longer being archived. > I did a little poke around eyebrowse, and not only is Tapestry not archived, > none of the lists seems to have been updated since late february. >

Re: New Project

on 2003/2/25 11:44 AM, "Federico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe you don't understand me. We have already finished the proxy's heart > and we have written our classes almost like Noodle ever if we didn't know > it. > > Federico Too bad you wasted your time then. =) -jon --

Re: New Project

on 2003/2/25 10:07 AM, "Federico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > we are five italian programmers and we have finished some days ago "Puff", a > http cache proxy written in java that have some interesting features like a > spider that prefetch the web links and an option to convert all images t

Re: Would Jakarta like to adopt MaybeUpload?

on 2003/2/20 7:16 AM, "Simon Brooke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's well established, widely used, debugged, and stable. > > It's also a lot simpler to use. The example given on > http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/fileupload/apidocs/org/apache/commons/fileup > load/package-summary.html >> I

Re: CVS Q

on 2003/2/12 8:55 AM, "neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was at apachecon ! I'm hoping to have a chat with anyone who runs CVS > for 50+ developers in a fast moving environment. I'm looking for some > very basic pointers on whether we should implement it or not. Also might > be in the market fo

Classic

LOL! http://www.internalmemos.com/memos/memodetails.php?memo_id=1321 -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROT

Re: Article posted on Jakarta site

on 2003/2/5 8:34 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thoughts? +1 Make the change then... -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Fun article...

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#20030204.1 -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Review and testing of source code

on 2003/2/4 4:17 PM, "Eric Merhoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Can you please send me or point me to information on how submitted open > source code is reviewed and tested by the organization before it is made > available for download. My understanding is that this is managed throug

Re: Comparision Report

on 2003/2/1 9:17 AM, "Janina Rubacha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Both models use true MVC patterns. Honestly, I don't see how Struts is 'true MVC'. There are so many places where the MVC contract is broken in Struts, it is silly. -jon -

I feel so vindicated.

http://www.freeroller.net/page/ara_e/20021214 I think we are going to see more and more of this over the coming year as the economy gets worse and worse and people are expected to produce real working applications. People are going to start to clue in to the fact that EJB sucks. JSP sucks. JCP suc

Re: nice

on 2003/1/29 10:26 AM, "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So the solution for committers who would like to be involved in the JCP is > to hand around their announce list and website, when a particular new JSR > is announced they can go volunteer. If successful, then they would do the > a

Re: nice

on 2003/1/29 7:16 AM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The ASF is a member. Any ASF member is covered by that agreement, and > can thus, if they choose, represent the ASF on the EG if the EG > accepts. IIRC, non-members can also represent the ASF on an expert > group, but it doe

Re: Logging strategy

on 2003/1/29 5:56 AM, "Ceki Gülcü" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe log4j is here to stay. Its user base is large and > growing. As time passes, more people will gravitate to it as it keeps > improving. We have enough cool features in pipe to keep us busy for > the foreseeable future. Simile

Re: nice

on 2003/1/28 9:50 PM, "Robert Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Welcome to real life business. In the real world, not everything goes your > way. You get to choose between a mass of "political bullshit" and having no > choice at all. I opt for choice even if the choice is flawed. You can put >

Re: nice

Don't bother questioning or wondering about the JCP. Fact of the matter is that it is just one big fucked mess full of all the political bullshit you could ever imagine. It isn't worth your time. -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [

Re: Forum Software.

on 2003/1/22 12:28 PM, "Santiago Gala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Install spamassassin and server-side filtering (with procmail, for > instance). ;-) (It saves me between 5 and 10 spam messages a day, quite > an effort just to download and delete). You should be so lucky to only get 5-10 a d

Re: New Projects

on 2003/1/21 8:10 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon Scott Stevens wrote: >> What is it with IBM people suddenly wanting to start projects based around >> JSR's? Looks suspicious to me. > > IBM has proposed ASF projects in the past. IBM has

New Projects

What is it with IBM people suddenly wanting to start projects based around JSR's? Looks suspicious to me. -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additiona

Re: OSX

on 2003/1/17 5:46 PM, "Brian McCallister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sun hasn't released a 1.4 JDK for OSX yet, but I use quite a few of the > 1.4 features daily for work. Is there a ultra-sekret 1.4 JDK for OSX out > that i am unaware of, or are all of the OSX'ers in Apache using 1.3? There is

Re: how do you work??

on 2003/1/15 7:02 PM, "Eduardo Andrés Alfonso Sierra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wanna know what specific tools do you use, or > what kind of tools do you use to use, to develop the software. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment

Re: Forum Software for Jakarta?

on 2003/1/15 3:12 AM, "Robert Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mailing lists are not as good as forums for communication. > > --Robert That is your opinion. They have worked well here since 1997. I hate the idea that I would have to go check a website to read discussions and I hate the text

Re: (PHP interperated via Java) [Fwd: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP]

on 2003/1/10 9:54 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But interesting no? ;-) Not anymore interesting than Jython... "Hey, let's re-write every language in Java just to be interesting!" I'm waiting for the C implementation in Java. Not. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: (PHP interperated via Java) [Fwd: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP]

on 2003/1/10 5:06 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought this might be interesting to some folks... They're porting > PHP to Java... > > -Andy Yea, it is called JSP w/ scriptlets. This is a stupid idea. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For

Re: Tapestry incubation

on 2003/1/4 2:54 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are interested > in participating in the Tapestry incubation process. > > Thank you, > > Andy > What is up with the left hand side of the layout taking up ~45% of the page?

Re: Senior Java JSP Software Engineer Position Available

on 2003/1/3 11:58 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just because I'd hate to see you under federal indictment* *now that we > both no longer live in such a free country. > Jon did this before the instatement of that wonderous Digital Millenium > Copyright Act. > > -Andy And j

Re: Senior Java JSP Software Engineer Position Available

on 2003/1/3 11:29 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know Jon. Seems like a good opportunity for you. You'd get to > brush up on your JSP skills (dominated by JSP), use Struts, > and gain experience with BEA. It seems like a perfect fit for you! You forgot honing my EJ

FW: Senior Java JSP Software Engineer Position Available

Seems like a good place to forward this piece of s p a m. Let me know if you get the job. =) -- Forwarded Message From: "James Moore & Associates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 10:41:57 -0800 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Senior Java JSP Software Engineer Position Availabl

Re: [Fwd: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/acknowledgements.html]

on 2002/12/30 1:05 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > clearink.com - AFAIK they don't provide anything, they don't even exist > anymore. +1 for removing them. They exist (kinda), but don't do anything to help anymore. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For a

Re: New Preprocessing tool

on 2002/12/20 6:05 PM, "didge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After reading up regarding licensing a bit more, I'm going to consider > switching to an ASF or BSD license. Good idea. > Shouldn't matter much right now because > I don't think anyone is planning to redistribute this :) You never kno

Re: New Preprocessing tool

on 2002/12/20 4:00 PM, "didge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Folks, > > Ever needed cross platform file preprocessing integrated with Ant? > > Then please check out VPP, the Velocity Preprocessor, at > http://vpp.sourceforge.net. VPP provides three useful tools that integrate > Velocity and Ant:

Re: Jakarta PMC report

on 2002/12/19 10:25 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Andy theorem on general Apache Jakarta discussions continues to > prove true (they all devolve into a rehash of the bad ol days of Tomcat > 3.3/4)... Please don't take the bait guys... Pretty please? > > -Andy Sorry, it

Re: Jakarta PMC report

on 2002/12/19 8:04 AM, "Costin Manolache" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I meant it very seriously - I think every project should have a goal, > and should eventually reach the goal in a finite amount of time. The > fact that jakarta-regexp "just works" and has met its goals is a very > positive thi

Re: Jakarta PMC report

on 2002/12/18 9:19 PM, "Costin Manolache" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the point was that we also need people to review the commits and > people to vote on the release. Thanks for volunteering. > I don't know what "final" would mean - if bugs are found that affect > projects using regexp

Re: Jakarta PMC report

on 2002/12/18 7:36 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Such codebases (for example, regexp) are heavily > depended upon and so interwoven into the fabric of many Jakarta > subprojects that it is hard to imagine removing then from the ASF > despite the somewhat different community dynamic o

Re: [POLL] OS of choice

on 2002/12/18 1:14 AM, "Danny Angus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon, > Server, desktop or what? > d. What computer OS did you use to type that email from? =) -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ -- To unsubs

Re: [POLL] OS of choice

on 2002/12/17 6:27 PM, "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If this is untrue, then why not give all Jakarta committers access to > jakarta-site2 to encourage people to work on the site. Anyone who asks for it gets it. Why it works that way, I don't know. It is just how it has been done.

Re: [POLL] OS of choice

on 2002/12/17 2:29 PM, "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's fun? :) +1! Finally something that isn't just about how much Sun sucks ass. Although, it would be nice if they did do something someday that wasn't blatantly stupid (if only you guys could read the JSR-154 list...). > On a

Re: [POLL] OS of choice

on 2002/12/17 2:54 PM, "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Jon, > > Can people have two operating systems of choice for your page? > > Hen If people have more than one preference. I would prefer to have it as the primary preference of choice, but if you really have grey area, that

Re: [POLL] OS of choice

on 2002/12/17 1:15 PM, "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A nice idea, and a simple way of adding in the votes, but with the issue > that people without access to jakarta-site2 are unable to commit changes. I'm sorry, but I'm so tired of hearing that lame excuse over and over again, eve

[POLL] OS of choice

I added a simple poll for Jakarta developers. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/os.html Please update the site with your preferences. -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: FYI: Follow up on the XML'ization of MS Office 11

on 2002/12/17 10:22 AM, "Brian Ewins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is old news I but I just saw it today: there's a tool that can > convert word 2000 docs (saved as html) to an xml doc and an xsl-t script > to generate xsl:fo - and from there to PDF. > http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/fabgia/w

Re: Bad Link to FAQ

on 2002/12/14 1:19 PM, "John Petrula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The FAQ link at > http://jakarta.apache.org/regexp/index.html > is bad. We know...there is about 10 issues in the bug tracker for it as well...I was working on Regexp the other day (I closed about 10 bugs and applied a bunch of pa

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

on 2002/12/6 2:07 AM, "Vladimir R. Bossicard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> From : "mohammad nabil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> i will leave Apache system if you used any Micro$oft products. >> when you support Micro$oft you help in KILLING an open source project :'( > >> From someone using a msn.

Re: A suggestion for Scarab

on 2002/12/5 6:18 AM, "O'brien, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could someone put a note on that Login pages of Scarab that lets people > know what the roles mean (what is a Partner, do we ever expect to have a > Partner?), and that if one requests "Developer" role in any project that > will be

Re: velocity lovers...

on 2002/12/4 5:57 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Java Communist Party LOL! -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional comman

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

on 2002/12/4 4:52 PM, "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great guest editorial article (no web link yet it seems) in the November > Java Developers Journal that I suggest you read. > > It briefly outlines how the JCP is screwing up the way that Sun man

Sun Is Losing Its Way

Great guest editorial article (no web link yet it seems) in the November Java Developers Journal that I suggest you read. It briefly outlines how the JCP is screwing up the way that Sun manages Java. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: <

Re: Short Apache licence for source files

on 2002/12/4 11:30 AM, "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All this fuss is about 34 lines of text? I don't get it. Why not just use > the full license and forget about whether or not the short form is OK? > > -- > Martin Cooper +1 -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainmen

Re: velocity lovers...

on 2002/12/4 9:20 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.miceda-data.com/cgi-bin/blosxom/2002/12/04#Java/velocity > > -Andy Wow. Java Server Faces really sucks ass. Much more than I could have ever imagined. No wonder I didn't bother looking at it before. What a confusing

Re: I win!

on 2002/12/3 1:20 PM, "Vadim Gritsenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "ant docs" fails with: > > AnakiaTask is not present! Please check to make sure that > velocity.jar is in your classpath. Fixed > I guess something is wrong here (yes, I've checked out jakarta-site2). > Also, "ant pack

Re: I win!

on 2002/12/3 12:20 PM, "Vadim Gritsenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Done. Attached to the bug report: > > http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showattachment.cgi?attach_id=4029 > Done. As an added bonus, I updated the build system to use more current standards. -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nigh

Re: I win!

on 2002/12/3 6:35 AM, "Vadim Gritsenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While in good mood, may be you could apply > http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8467 ? > > Vadim Where are the test cases? -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Fran

I win!

Yes, I win! http://cvs.apache.org/~rubys/committers.html Ok, that page makes me laugh. =) -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-

Re: IDE Developers' guide

on 2002/11/24 12:26 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idedevelopers.html > > Thanks for your help! > > -Andy Great document Andy. The more idiot guides we have, the less idiots we will have. -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 3

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta

on 2002/11/20 7:06 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tapestry is re-organizing internally to meet the goals of a Jakarta project > *before* a formal proposal is sent to the PMC. That is, we're now following > Apache meritocracy rules, changing the license to ASL, etc. Doing th

Let the games begin...

http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?url=/downloads/sample.asp?ur l=/MSDN-FILES/027/002/097/msdncompositedoc.xml Note that it runs on OSX. Also note that the latest version of OSX has a journaled filesystem option which is enabled on an existing disk by simply typing 'sudo diskutil ena

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets site.vsl

on 2002/11/11 8:19 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Try to avoid this problem in the future by adding a big warning to all > generated files. Will it help? Who knows? > Experience says no. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [scarab] problems with scarab server

on 2002/11/11 12:30 AM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just need to make it clear that it isn't Nagoya that is slow, it is > MySQL. MySQL isn't slow...it is MySQL on Nagoya that is slow. MySQL on my OSX box here at home is blazing fast. Slowaris sucks... -jon -- To unsubscrib

Re: Gump changes

on 2002/11/10 8:25 PM, "Stephen McConnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is the size of the development community supporting gump ? 1.3 Sam might be short, but he has .3 of someone else's personality! =) -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Fr

Re: Gump changes

on 2002/11/10 9:06 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3) I plan to move Gump out of Alexandria. My favorite suggestion to > date is from Costin: move Gump to jakarta-commons. If you care to > comment on this, please direct your replies to alexandria-dev. > > - Sam Ruby Personally, I t

Re: [scarab] problems with scarab server

on 2002/11/8 8:53 PM, "Scott Eade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, Scarab on nagoya is always very slow, almost to the point of being > unusable. I just need to make it clear that it isn't Scarab that is slow, it is nagoya. =) -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Why Sun lost the Yahoo! account...

I knew that not having a decent FreeBSD JVM was eventually going to bite Sun in the ass in a very public way... "Why not JSP, Servlets, or J2EE?" http://public.yahoo.com/~radwin/talks/yahoo-phpcon2002.htm It would have been cool to say that Java powered Yahoo! -jon -- To unsubscribe,

Java Meetup @ StudioZ.tv (@ my bar/club!!!!)

Hey all, The next Java Meetup is still being voted on for a place and this time one of the 'randomly' selected locations to vote on is my night club/bar in San Francisco, StudioZ.tv! So, let's get some people signed up for it and voting for my space so that the event will be held there and let's

Re: Linux Magazine article

on 2002/10/25 5:16 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish we did have something that supported a non-crappy interface like > EOB (eob.sourceforge.net) Stuff like this reminds me of Velocity vs. JSP argument. People realize that EJB sucks ass, so they develop something that is

Re: [Fwd: Re: [eclipse-dev] Java compiler defaults changed]

on 2002/10/23 2:24 PM, "Tom Copeland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speaking of mass source code analysis, here's some of the Sourceforge > projects and their unused code stats (unused locals, unused fields, > etc): > > http://pmd.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/webpmd.pl > > I thought about doing a simi

Re: [INVITATION] community@apache.org

> This mail list will be closed to committers only, the citizens of the > Apache Software Foundation, and will serve as the place to talk about > the future of the foundation. Why is this getting forwarded to general@ when it has already been forwarded to committers@? I'm getting a bazillion copie

Re: Problem with Bugzilla

on 2002/10/19 3:34 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there -- On Saturday 10/19/02 at 18:33 EST, I tried to look up bugs > regarding what I can do to fix Ant.bat so it will work on Windows98 and every > time I would get onto the Bugzilla page, my AOL browser would just freeze

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta

on 2002/10/19 4:22 PM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to start a new project for a new Servlet Container that is not > Tomcat! :-) Let's see how many fans I'm going to get! :-) > > Pier Yea, let's see if we can move Jetty under Jakarta. =) -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Ni

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta

on 2002/10/19 11:49 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So could someone clarify that for me... We're here to promote community > software developmentas long as they don't overlap? sorry I totally > misunderstood the apache way. (especially with all the overlapping > projects

Re: Developer wishes to donate project to Apache

on 2002/10/11 9:44 AM, "Mike Stover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank Cohen, author of TestMaker software (from www.pushtotest.com) would like > to > donate the software to Apache (Jakarta). TestMake is similar in purpose to > Apache > JMeter, but very different in execution. There are poss

Re: Struts and Tomcat 4.0

on 2002/10/9 4:20 PM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe they also "tried" to make a JSR out of it, but got shot down > somewhere in the middle... :-( > > Pier Geir and I approached the JCP about creating a JSR for a "Java Template Language" (see enclosed) and even had a

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

on 2002/10/9 10:40 AM, "Daniel Rall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mod_python is looking more and more attractive to me all the time, a > clever balance between the two. Not really. This is about as good as plain servlets. http://www.modpython.org/live/mod_python-2.7.8/doc-html/tut-pub.html Not

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

on 2002/10/8 3:39 PM, "Ceki Gülcü" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is surprising that a Java expert with monumental contributions to > this community would not use Java technology to create his website. Is > this a case of "do as I say, not as I do"? > > Of course one is free to try new approach

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

on 2002/10/8 2:32 PM, "Leo Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I recently spent a couple weekend nights and built the >> StudioZ.tv website in PHP4 on OSX. > > Hey, that looks like maven! :P Actually, it looks like CollabNet's SourceCast. Scarab looks like SourceCast and Maven looks like Scar

Re: Struts and Tomcat 4.0

on 2002/10/8 9:39 AM, "amar bhatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello , > we have developed a web site in which we have implemented struts for > designing the page , this works fine on Apache and jsp engine from > oracle (9ias) > > but we now have to move the web site to apache and tomcat envir

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

on 2002/10/8 8:41 AM, "Geir Magnusson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's why Velocity is as fast as JSP. > > geir ...if not faster... -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

on 2002/10/8 2:42 AM, "Leo Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "PHP 5 and MySQL 4 will make java, .Net, and all similar technologies > obsolete." > > Said one manager to another manager on a golf court, after having > spent the weekend with his 12 year old son who built the school > website. >

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

on 2002/10/8 1:14 AM, "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I find it even more amusing to see you try to defend I never defend. I only offend by exposing the truth. =) -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

on 2002/10/7 6:56 PM, "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mean this, taken from the page, don't you? > > > Hello > > > #if ($request.getParameter("name") == null) > Hello World > #else > Hello, $request.getParameter("name") > #end > > > > At least if you're using JSP/JSTL, y

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

on 2002/10/7 5:41 PM, "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, I know Velocity fans won't like this any better, but if you bring > the JSP example on that page up to date, using JSTL, you'll have this: > > > > Hello World > > > Hello, > > I dunno about you, but I would

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

on 2002/10/7 5:21 PM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > JSPs are the "root of all evil" because HTMLers think to have the power (and > obligation, after a while) to blatantly destroy your entire container in > less than 2 minutes of uptime... To that respect, even ASP are better... >

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

on 2002/10/7 4:45 PM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is, actually, but more than Mickey Mouse, it's the "Speedy Gonzales" > version of JSP, given that per equivalent template (and rewriting tag > libraries in Tea Applications), we kinda get a 3x performance boost! :-) > > Plus

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

Actually, yes. Here is the specific reason(s): http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd-saying-hello.html Most specifically, if you want to make the word "doesn't" in the example below bold...now, you have embedded HTML into your println...and we know it isn't MVC to embed HTML into Java c

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

on 7/18/02 1:44 PM, "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's nothing wrong with JSP. Those that bash it are those who clearly > have no understanding of it. That is the funniest thing I have read in a long time. Here is a great picture of a JSP user: http://whichever.com/hea

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

on 7/17/02 4:30 PM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nope, but if it helps making him look better, I have a pic of Jon wearing a > pink ballerina dress... > > (amazing what Halloween can do!) > > Pier That is a good picture...my 'package' looks HUGE! The Jakarta women will want

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

on 7/17/02 4:33 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1 - I can't wait to convert my site from JSP (just on principle). > Though it will be to XML, I'd never lower myself to using just > PHP of course. And anyhow my objective is to only update data when I > want to change somethin

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

on 7/17/02 3:43 PM, "Martin van den Bemt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is that site generated by maven ? ;)) > > Mvgr, > Martin Anakia I hate to admit it here, but the output is .html files which are then processed through PHP. I'm going to be moving away from even using Anakia and just using

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

on 7/17/02 3:06 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You don't think Jon should be the mascot somehow? I am the mascot... every time I post the idiot.html link...someone (usually you) goes and posts the jon.html link and everyone goes in circles again...it is quite funny...people

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

on 7/17/02 11:21 AM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ROTFL > > BTW, nice touch that photo! > =;o) > > Have fun, > Paulo http://jakarta.apache.org/site/love.html Amazing what a symlink can do. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands,

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

on 7/16/02 5:33 PM, "Vishal Pahuja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All: > > I have a custom servlet that works/responds if I type in following in the > URL http://vpahuja:8080/servlet/com.esri.esrimap.Esrimap?CMD=appserverping > where com.esri.esrimap.Esrimap is our custom servlet > The same fail

Re: new look

on 6/27/02 12:33 PM, "Kasper Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And the important thing wasn't how _to_ access the sessions but _having_ > announced sessions. > > - Kasper That is easy enough to do...just stick it up on the homepage... -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: new look

on 6/27/02 12:15 PM, "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm hoping that an aspect of maven will focus on dealing with collections > of projects at some point. creating a top level site for them, grouping > documentation. http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/ I see a list of 9 subprojects

Re: new look

e strongly -1 on copying their layout. We should be original from Sun. > Yeah i know, I was actually more refering to announced sessions, lets say a > posting on the front page of jakarta.apache.org > July 16 11:00 A.M. PDT/6:00 P.M. GMT > The Turbine Framework > Guests: Jon Scott Stev

Re: new look

on 6/27/02 10:52 AM, "Kasper Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just saw the new look on http://java.sun.com/ and boy its neat. Indeed. It is far better than what they had. > What about bringing something like this to jakarta land?? (And no. I'm not > currently Volunteering to do this) I

Interesting quote....

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Re: Scarab

on 6/12/02 7:16 PM, "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the bugzilla/scarab migration is relatively easy and people like > Scarab and are satisfied it is ready to replace Bugzilla then we can try > to cull the Bugzilla installation. > That part isn't done yet. I'm actually working o

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