[PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

WHY KRYSALIS From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've no problem with that if Ken is given committer access, the > community agrees and comes up with a plan to integrate the two and all. > I just figured it made more sense to have

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

+1 I would go even further and propose a top level project that will host all project-management tools, including Gump. While gump doesn't have a very big community of developers ( I wish I had more time), it is an essential tool for jakarta, and I think 'it is the real thing'. There are man

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

+1 to costin's sentiment! I completely agree with everything he said. On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 18:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > +1 > > I would go even further and propose a top level project that will > host all project-management tools, including Gump. > > While gump doesn't have a very big com

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 20:11, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 5/2/02 2:54 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Centaven Reasoning: I don't see how we can easily do this. The approaches > > are wildly different at basic levels, e.g. dvsl vs xsl, entities vs > > external build file

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 05:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > JAKARTA-GUMP: +0 I'm not involved in Gump enough to make a call on this > one. > JAKARTA-ALEXANDRIA: +0 see above > CENTAVEN: -1 > > Centaven Reasoning: I don't see how we can easily do this. The approaches > are wildly different at basic

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 05:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > JAKARTA-GUMP: +0 I'm not involved in Gump enough to make a call on this > one. > JAKARTA-ALEXANDRIA: +0 see above > CENTAVEN: -1 > > Centaven Reasoning: I don't see how we can easily do this. The approaches > are wildly different at basic

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm also a little worried about the size/vocality of the centipede > developer community. Krysalis lists (in the archive) total 53 posts. Maven > dev (includes cvs) has 780, and the user list 151. And let's not forget the constant chatter on the IRC server. ;-) -- T

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

> > Centaven Reasoning: I don't see how we can easily do this. The approaches > > are wildly different at basic levels, e.g. dvsl vs xsl, entities vs > > external build files for ant, extending GUMPs descriptor vs generating one > > etc. > > I can agree with that. Hell, the dvsl vs. xsl is a show

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

+1 I'm not a big fan of me-too posts, but this is one, bigtime. Apache as a whole and I think all of the subprojects individually have a real need for something like this. - Leo On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 00:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > +1 > > I would go even further and propose a top level proje

RE: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

Leo wrote: > However, the implicit argument "home-brewn solutions are worse than > standards" simply doesn't always hold true. It doesn't here. Both XSLT > and DVSL are here at Apache, which, for me, is enough of a "standard". > > Basically, all this is to point out masquerading of egotism > as t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 5/2/02 2:54 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Centaven Reasoning: I don't see how we can easily do this. The approaches >>are wildly different at basic levels, e.g. dvsl vs xsl, entities vs >>external build files for ant, extending GUMPs descr

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

Guys, Bottom line (you could probably guess these but it needs to be said): 1. I'll -1 the attempt to switch any project to maven that I have a vote on unless there is a concerted effort to collaborate on a combined effort with centipede. 2. I'll -1 anything that REQUIRES me to use DVSL if I

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!)) > Guys, > > Bottom line (you could

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

ust happened to be the >most recent post on this topic. > None taken. But I prefer to go by my first name. -Andy > >- Morgan > >- Original Message - >From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

- Original Message - From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! co

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

On Thu, 2 May 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > 1. I'll -1 the attempt to switch any project to maven that I have a vote > on unless there is a concerted effort to collaborate on a combined > effort with centipede. Same here, I'll -1 a switch to either maven or centipede on the projects I have

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thu, 2 May 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > > 1. I'll -1 the attempt to switch any project to maven that I have a vote > > on unless there is a concerted effort to collaborate on a combined > > effort with centipede. > > Same here, I'll -1 a switch to either maven

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

> > > >Seems like overkill to stop a project based on the stylesheet technology, >but it's your choice to make. > Its not ONLY the tag language. And its the refusal to collaborate that really irks me. Furthermore, there model of seperation of centipede looks nicer. I'd like to see the two ide

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

On 2 May 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > Okay now I'm really done with the conversation If only you were... Glenn McAllister SOMA Networks, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

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Hi, Carefully trying to step in at a moment where there again was an attempt to being usefull :-) (Ken's [PROPOSAL] seemed to me too honest and willing to hijack it into more flamewars) [doing the awfull crosspost reflecting the nature of this message-body] > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[E