Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
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> on 1/4/02 4:20 PM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > They aren't even comparable, are they?
>
> Of course not.
No, I agree, I was just teasing :)
> http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/dvsl/
>
> When DVSL is integrated into Turbine's present
On 1/4/02 7:38 PM, "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 1/4/02 4:20 PM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> They aren't even comparable, are they?
>
> Of course not.
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/dvsl/
>
> When DVSL is integrated into Turbine's prese
on 1/4/02 4:20 PM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They aren't even comparable, are they?
Of course not.
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/dvsl/
When DVSL is integrated into Turbine's presentation layer and people are
using it, the comparison will definitely be Cocoon2 v
On 1/4/02 6:58 PM, "Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Craig R. McClanahan" wrote:
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>> On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
>>
- Sam Ruby
P.S. Food for thought: wouldn't it be nice if we could somehow merge xml
and Jakarta? Then discussions as to wh
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 03:34, Sam Ruby wrote:
> Ted Husted wrote:
> > What would also help, I think, would be if we published more of our
> > statistics. I know Vincent was working on a download stats page once.
> > I've also seen people post interesting statistics about the posts to the
> > mailing l
Sam Ruby wrote:
>
> Ted Husted wrote:
> >
> > What would also help, I think, would be if we published more of our
> > statistics. I know Vincent was working on a download stats page once.
> > I've also seen people post interesting statistics about the posts to the
> > mailing lists. A snapshot of
"Craig R. McClanahan" wrote:
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> On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
>
> > >
> > >- Sam Ruby
> > >
> > >P.S. Food for thought: wouldn't it be nice if we could somehow merge xml
> > >and Jakarta? Then discussions as to where POI should go would be moot.
> > >Gump doesn't care about these arbi
On 1/4/02 12:39 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's a concrete example to illustrate the issue: I've always been under
> the assumption that at some point a few people in Jakarta land would take a
> sustained interest in contributing code to Gump, at which point, I would
> propose
At 12:39 04.01.2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Ceki Gülcü wrote:
>>
>> +1 on the principle of merging Jakarta and XML. However, you realize
>> there are technical considerations such as the look and fell of the
>> merged web-site. More importantly, what would be the scope of the merged
>> XML+Jakarta?
>
>
Hi
>Here's a concrete example to illustrate the issue: I've always been under
>the assumption that at some point a few people in Jakarta land would take a
>sustained interest in contributing code to Gump, at which point, I would
>propose it to be a formal subproject. At the present time, it lo
Sam Ruby wrote:
> The more important question is what is the community model. As the XML
> bylaws are clones of the Jakarta ones, I would venture to say that they are
> fairly compatible.
What about TCL then?
I wouldn't actually care if there is one umbrella project or six. But it
seemed like
> From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> One thing I would like people to think about. I see viceral
> reaction at times to putting things in commons. Or in
> Avalon/Turbine/Struts, etc. And often there is lengthy
> debates about whether something belongs in Jakarta or not.
> Yet, cu
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
> >
> >- Sam Ruby
> >
> >P.S. Food for thought: wouldn't it be nice if we could somehow merge xml
> >and Jakarta? Then discussions as to where POI should go would be moot.
> >Gump doesn't care about these arbitrary distinctions, why should we?
>
> +1 on t
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
>
> +1 on the principle of merging Jakarta and XML. However, you realize
> there are technical considerations such as the look and fell of the
> merged web-site. More importantly, what would be the scope of the merged
> XML+Jakarta?
The more important question is what is the com
Ted Husted wrote:
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> I'm not sure if I'm ready for the equation
>
> Jakarta != Java
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-tomcat-connectors/jk/native/common/
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-ant/src/main/org/apache/tools/ant/taskdefs/optional/dotnet/
> Thinking about it more carefully, ...
Hi,
>At 11:34 04.01.2002 -0500, you wrote:
>>Ted Husted wrote:
>>>
>>> What would also help, I think, would be if we published more of our
>>> statistics. I know Vincent was working on a download stats page once.
>>> I've also seen people post interesting statistics about the posts to the
>>> mai
I am 100% for that.
Even because:
- How server specific is Ant?
- And BCEL?
- And Log4J?
- And ORO?
- And Regexp?
- And Xerces?
- And commons collections, DBCP, Beanutils...
And I could push it a bit more.
Of course that they are useful to build server stuff... as they could be
useful to
Sam Ruby wrote:
> P.S. Food for thought: wouldn't it be nice if we could somehow merge xml
> and Jakarta? Then discussions as to where POI should go would be moot.
> Gump doesn't care about these arbitrary distinctions, why should we?
The thing with XML is that core products like Xerces are cro
At 11:34 04.01.2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Ted Husted wrote:
>>
>> What would also help, I think, would be if we published more of our
>> statistics. I know Vincent was working on a download stats page once.
>> I've also seen people post interesting statistics about the posts to the
>> mailing lists.
Ted Husted wrote:
>
> What would also help, I think, would be if we published more of our
> statistics. I know Vincent was working on a download stats page once.
> I've also seen people post interesting statistics about the posts to the
> mailing lists. A snapshot of how many commits are being mad
Danny Angus wrote:
> Perhaps thats because the direction is not changing, are the goals of the
> project still the same, are the subprojects all still moving steadily
> forward?
>
> They seem to be, and this would be a good reason for not interfering, after
> all there are no deadlines except thos
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