On 9/27/06, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think someone would really file a bug report for this It's true
that my OCD about optimizing becomes painful when I see my flags
overruled but I (still) can control myself ;-)
Your cflags really aren't going to change much. It's better
On Thursday 28 September 2006 02:26, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 17:40, Hemmann, Volker Armin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64]
First Impressions':
On Thursday 28 September 2006 00:03, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
I also like:
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 22:59, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] First Impressions':
Dan Pasanen wrote:
Ok, im not too sure about this, but i was wondering, i have dual core
turion64's should that affect if im running -O2 or -O3? currently im
running
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 21:55, Peter Davoust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TOP-POSTED about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] How To Play WMV?':
On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 19:29 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 06:25, Christoph Mende
[EMAIL
On Thursday 28 September 2006 01:28, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] How To Play WMV?':
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 21:55, Peter Davoust
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TOP-POSTED about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] How To Play WMV?':
On Wed,
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:30:54 +0300:
Petter Haggholm wrote:
The subject is fairly descriptive. Often -- but not always -- an
emerge will render my system unusable. At a PORTAGE_NICENESS of 3, and
fairly standard
Dnia czwartek, 28 września 2006 09:24, Petter Haggholm napisał:
Without having tried it yet -- I need to finish some work first -- I'm
curious about the MAKEOPTS thing, especially -j?. The other reply (so
far) in this thread suggests -j1 and asserts that [-j2] has no sense
anyway, if you
Dnia czwartek, 28 września 2006 09:24, Petter Haggholm napisał:
contrast to all the recommended settings I have seen so far -- standard
procedure seems to be -j$(no. cores+1), I presume so that one make
Ah, yes - one more thing. The estimation of -j for multi-core i've seen in
various manuals
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 11:11, Hemmann, Volker Armin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64]
First Impressions':
-O3 don't do it. O2 is much, much safer and not really slower. It will
prevent a lot of breakage.
Bah!
-O3 breaking just doesn't
Duncan wrote:
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:30:54 +0300:
Petter Haggholm wrote:
The subject is fairly descriptive. Often -- but not always -- an
emerge will render my system unusable. At a PORTAGE_NICENESS of 3, and
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 28 Sep
2006 02:12:44 -0500:
[1] Actually, I've seen a Debian package that claims to allow 64-bit
konqueror to use 32-bit flash (and other nsplugins) but I don't know if
that package is available for
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 22:48, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
`locale-gen --config /etc/locale.gen` is run by pkg_postinst() of
sys-libs/glibc.
Seems reasonable.
What is the output of:
# egrep -v '^#|^$' /etc/locale.gen
It just happened that emerge -e world had reached glibc as I read
Hi,The message:
ATAPI device hda:
error: Not ready -- (Sense Key=0x02)
Incompatible medium installed -- (asc=0x30, ascq=0x00)
The failed Read subchannel packet command was:
42 02 40 01 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 00 00
VFS: busy inodes on changed media
attempt to access beyound and of
I forgot a little thing.I using gentoo linux a Athlon64 3500 and i compile my kernel 2.6.17-r4 according with gentoo handbook. When i boot my system from another linux distribution 32bits i don' t have errors. Thus, i guess it's because some configuration or kernel option on my gentoo(amd64).
Duncan wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 28 Sep
2006 02:12:44 -0500:
[1] Actually, I've seen a Debian package that claims to allow 64-bit
konqueror to use 32-bit flash (and other nsplugins) but I don't know if
that
This might be a bit off topic, but I'm at my wits' end. I have a server
that uses PAM/LDAP for authentication. A recent update broke PAM and
took me a couple of days to fix. But now, when I ssh into the box, I
get no output from any commands. su,ls,cat all just return to the
prompt without
On Thursday 28 September 2006 15:00, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
Obviously the error messages are less than optimal. What you need to do
is remove the first entry (en_GB). The following three entries works for
me (after the first is removed). Just run
# locale-gen
after having done that.
On Thursday 28 September 2006 03:35, Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] First Impressions':
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 11:11, Hemmann, Volker Armin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64]
First Impressions':
-O3
On Thursday 28 September 2006 10:37, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV?':
Duncan wrote:
However, I
don't do slaveryware, and most freedomware
has already been ported to amd64, so I compile it 64-bit.
I'll likely be
switching back to
-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Duncan
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 3:27 AM
To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV?
I didn't
switch to Linux after a decade on slaveryware just to be enslaved by a
Hi,The message:
ATAPI device hda:
error: Not ready -- (Sense Key=0x02)
Incompatible medium installed -- (asc=0x30, ascq=0x00)
The failed Read subchannel packet command was:
42 02 40 01 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 00 00
VFS: busy inodes on changed media
attempt to access beyound and of
Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 28 Sep 2006
11:52:18 -0400:
This might be a bit off topic, but I'm at my wits' end. I have a server
that uses PAM/LDAP for authentication. A recent update broke PAM and
took me a couple of days to fix. But now,
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:37:34 +0300:
- and he sends you a
wmv compressed clip...
Now what? You gonna tell your friend Sorry, man, but I'm not gonna see
your family 'cause I like my freedom!
Come ooon! ;-)
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
It's wrong-headed to deride or discourage users for using the features of
their compiler when those functions are not erroneous. Instead, you
should be leaning on the developers to fix the erroneous code.
This looks like a false dichotomy to
Neil Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
Pdftk is free software (GPL).
I'll let you know how I find it as I too have been trying for some time
to find a friendly way of editing PDF files...
I’ve used pdftk to encrypt PDF. It works fine, but lets you do such
things incorrectly without alarms
On Thursday 28 September 2006 14:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] First Impressions':
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
It's wrong-headed to deride or discourage users for using the features
of their compiler when those functions are not erroneous.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 28 Sep
2006 14:16:38 -0500:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
It's wrong-headed to deride or discourage users for using the features
of their compiler when those functions are not erroneous. Instead, you
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
On Thursday 28 September 2006 14:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] First Impressions':
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
It's wrong-headed to deride or discourage users for using the features
of their
Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
Well stated. One could compare -O2 to stable.
Which to me is a little weird, because only -O is something you can
count on from compiler to compiler. :)
There is one optimization level that, from my viewpoint, guarantees
bad code, and that’s no optimization,
On Thursday 28 September 2006 15:08, Brian Litzinger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Tolerance,
Freedom, Prosthetics':
I am happy so long as seller A can offer product A,
and seller B can offer product B, and seller C and
offer product C ... and buyers X and Y can
On Thursday 28 September 2006 10:52, Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote about '[gentoo-amd64] Strange ssh behaviour':
[N]ow, when I ssh into the box, I
get no output from any commands. su,ls,cat all just return to the
prompt without showing me any output.
Try running strace on a command on
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Thursday 28 September 2006 10:52, Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote about '[gentoo-amd64] Strange ssh behaviour':
[N]ow, when I ssh into the box, I
get no output from any commands. su,ls,cat all just return to the
prompt without showing me any output.
On Thursday 28 September 2006 15:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] First Impressions':
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
On Thursday 28 September 2006 14:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote
about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] First Impressions':
Boyd Stephen Smith
On Thursday 28 September 2006 15:48, Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] Strange ssh behaviour':
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Thursday 28 September 2006 10:52, Mark Haney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote about '[gentoo-amd64] Strange ssh behaviour':
[N]ow, when I ssh
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
Now, I have to problem with developers closing some bug opened by a ricer
out there that's added -ffast-math to their CFLAGS as WONTFIX/INVALID
since it's not really a problem. All the parts provided by Gentoo
(ebuild, source, compiler,
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 11:52:18AM -0400, Mark Haney wrote:
This might be a bit off topic, but I'm at my wits' end. I have a server
that uses PAM/LDAP for authentication. A recent update broke PAM and
took me a couple of days to fix. But now, when I ssh into the box, I
get no output from
-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Duncan
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:47 PM
To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift - slaveryware)
Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
On Thursday 28 September 2006 16:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about 'Optimizations (was Re: [gentoo-amd64] First Impressions)':
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
Now, I have to problem with developers closing some bug opened by a
ricer out there that's added -ffast-math to
On Thursday 28 September 2006 16:32, Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift -
slaveryware)':
-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Duncan
Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
-Original Message-
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:31 PM
To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift -
slaveryware)
On Thursday 28 September 2006 13:16, Bob Young
-Original Message-
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:57 PM
To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift -
slaveryware)
On Thursday 28 September 2006 16:32, Bob Young
very very easy. to understand all this...
OK, lets see the simple example.
I have ATI card with x.org-7.1 drivers, nothing speciall - just poor BUT
stable 2D 3D
I probably COULD use closed-source driver
BUT if my machine then will NOT work properly, I will achieve memory
leaks etc (past
Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on
Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:32:00 -0700:
[Duncan wrote...]
My tough standards are my own to
live by, if I can, nobody else's unless they want to adopt them as well.
I'm not suggesting you should change your opinion or views
Daniel Iliev wrote:
Hello,
My google digging wasn't helpful this time. Perhaps I can't find the
right search keywords. ;-(
On a 32bit gentoo system appropriate codec comes with
media-libs/win32codecs and such movies can be played by mplayer. On
amd64 mplayer can't be emerged with
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
No, they aren't. They can use another mechanic. Instead of having to
consult *one particular entity* they can consult *any entity of a
particular class*. They gain a choice, which means they have more
freedom.
Uhuh, I'm sure the Debian devs will gladly fix a
Simon Stelling wrote:
Daniel Iliev wrote:
2) I really (I mean it) enjoy the discussion thread drift -
slaveryware but aren't we supposed to open a new OT Thread or
something? My concern is that this mails go to everyone on the list and
this could be annoying for many people. I'm not sure what
Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on
Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:03:25 -0700:
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's not freedom, they are still completely dependent on the
mechanic they take the car
-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Duncan
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 5:17 PM
To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift - slaveryware)
Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on
Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:55:31 -0700:
Now we're getting off in to other discussions, companies purchase the CSS
IP of other companies all the time, such developement polination is
certaintly not dependent on OSS. This
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