Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Richard Freeman
Duncan wrote: I don't have a particular dog in this fight, but that's not the same thing. --skip-first allows the admin to react to whatever when wrong, try to fix it, and use the skip option only if he decides it's warranted. IOW, it's sort of interactive, tho over time. It appears this op

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread David Leverton
On Sunday 01 June 2008 00:54:19 Duncan wrote: > I don't have a particular dog in this fight, but that's not the same > thing. The point is that our little friend was gloating about how pkgcore has such a cool feature and paludis has nothing like it, when in fact paludis has something far better.

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Duncan
David Leverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 20:34:51 +0100: > On Saturday 31 May 2008 20:25:42 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: >> New in pkgcore: >> --ignore-failures: >> [snip] >> >> people who asked for a similar functionality in paludis were c

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread David Leverton
On Saturday 31 May 2008 20:25:42 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > New in pkgcore: > --ignore-failures: > [snip] > > people who asked for a similar functionality in paludis were called stupid. > (asking for skipfirst equivalent) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] $ paludis --help [snip] --continue-on-failure Wh

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 31. Mai 2008, Beso wrote: another good thing of paludis is the use of sets that > include a list of packages. i've actually been using them to update live > packages without putting them all hand by hand everytime. http://www.pkgcore.org/trac/pkgcore/wiki/Features http://www.pkgcore.o

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/31 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted > below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 18:12:56 +: > > > by the way, a short question: what do i have to do to be sure that > > kernel compilation uses ccache and is there a way to have it compiling >

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Duncan
Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 18:12:56 +: > by the way, a short question: what do i have to do to be sure that > kernel compilation uses ccache and is there a way to have it compiling > into ram like the packages that portage or paludi

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Duncan
Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 18:24:08 +: > on the klibido site?! maybe its devs have gone with gtk+ and pan :-( Dev, singular. At least from all indications and he said it was just him, at one point. Of course, pan isn't much

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/31 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted > below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 15:53:37 +: > > > well, firefox 4 would go with webkit and qt4. there's an announce from > > the firefox project director. gecko is unmantainable and ver slo

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/31 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted > below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 15:43:21 +: > > > or you could just use the kde4 apps in kde3.5. > > When I switch, I'll start using KDE4 for everything I can, so it'd be the > other way, KDE3

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Duncan
Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 15:53:37 +: > well, firefox 4 would go with webkit and qt4. there's an announce from > the firefox project director. gecko is unmantainable and ver slow, > so the only one who will continue to use it w

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Duncan
Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 15:43:21 +: > or you could just use the kde4 apps in kde3.5. When I switch, I'll start using KDE4 for everything I can, so it'd be the other way, KDE3 where I have to, KDE4 where it has been ported and

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/31 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted > below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 09:08:38 +: > > the same goes for me, a kde user. i really need some gnome apps like pan > > or firefox and just for it i need a big deal of gnome deps. and you

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/31 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted > below, on Fri, 30 May 2008 19:17:59 +: > > > 2008/5/30 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > In any case, 4.1 appears to have fixed at least some of the 4.0 blockers, > including the big one her

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Duncan
Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 09:08:38 +: > 2008/5/31 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> So seeing someone that's actually using pkgcore is helpful. =8^) > does pkgcore has more features than portage?! i seem to remember trying > it abou

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Duncan
Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 30 May 2008 19:17:59 +: > 2008/5/30 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Do the KDE-live builds require paludis? I recall reading that they >> were headed that way, because it could support an EAPI with needed >> features

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread David Leverton
On Saturday 31 May 2008 10:53:40 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > really? I only see one paludis related 'thread' so far. Look harder. > So could you tone down your personal attacks? It's quite hilarious that you say that after your lies and FUD about the entire Paludis team. -- gentoo-amd64@li

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 31. Mai 2008, ionut cucu wrote: > 2.when it comes to speed paludis is much faster i use pkgcore. It can't go faster than 'instantly' -- gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 31. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: > On Friday 30 May 2008 23:17:55 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > So, in my opinion, you are just a pro-paludis troll. > > And in my opinion, you are just an obsessive, delusional, anti-Paludis > fundamentalist. Whenever it (or Exherbo) is mentioned,

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/31 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, > on Fri, 30 May 2008 22:16:06 +0200: > > > On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, Duncan wrote: > > > >> I've not done paludis due to its lack of binary package support. Even > >>

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/31 Richard Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > >> So, in my opinion, you are just a pro-paludis troll. >> >> And from what I can see, trolls are the prefered audience and power behind >> paludis. >> > > Guys - let's try to keep this civil! > > There are lots of fol

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/30 Hemmann, Volker Armin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: > > On Friday 30 May 2008 21:16:06 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > > On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, Duncan wrote: > > > > I've not done paludis due to its lack of binary package support. > Even > >

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/30 David Leverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Friday 30 May 2008 22:10:00 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: > > oh really? > > > > I don't think so. > > You also "think" that > * it's Paludis's fault that the maintainers of some of the overlays I

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/30 Hemmann, Volker Armin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, Duncan wrote: > > > I've not done paludis due to its lack of binary package support. Even > > tho I'm running only a single computer > > there is another reason not to use paludis: > > you can't go back. > > At least

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Duncan
"Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 30 May 2008 22:16:06 +0200: > On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, Duncan wrote: > >> I've not done paludis due to its lack of binary package support. Even >> tho I'm running only a single computer > > there is

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread ionut cucu
On Fri, 30 May 2008 22:16:06 +0200 "Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, Duncan wrote: > > > I've not done paludis due to its lack of binary package support. > > Even tho I'm running only a single computer > > there is another reason not to use paludis: >