[gentoo-amd64] Re: How do I choose a second window manager?

2009-06-18 Thread Duncan
Mark Knecht posted 5bdc1c8b0906181839r18d3a8c0yfa9d5da993d66...@mail.gmail.com, excerpted below, on Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:39:51 -0700: > This issue seems to come up occasionally. I'll download some zip file to > my desktop and use an archive manager to drag a bunch of stuff out. > Having done that

Re: [gentoo-amd64] How do I choose a second window manager?

2009-06-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> Okay, you are moving icons around on the desktop but not actually >> moving files to different directories. That's where I was getting >> confused. :) > > No, I'm moving files on the desktop. Desktop is a directory and the > files are visible i

Re: [gentoo-amd64] How do I choose a second window manager?

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Paul >> Hartman wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:   I found that here drag and drop works in a folder but doesn't work >>>

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Hurray! Radeon KMS in 2.6.31

2009-06-18 Thread Dmitri Pogosyan
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dmitri Pogosyan wrote: > >> One thing that always bugs me is that XRandR requires some > >> configuration[1] and X restart[2], > > > > Why are you say that ? One surely does not need to restart X, that's the > > whole point of XrandR > > >

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Hurray! Radeon KMS in 2.6.31

2009-06-18 Thread Lie Ryan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: > Lie Ryan posted 4a3aa6fb.3010...@gmail.com, excerpted > below, on Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:43:39 +1000: > >> For changing "Resolution and Rotation", you're correct; but with or >> without randr, whatever I tried I can't switch between sin

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Hurray! Radeon KMS in 2.6.31

2009-06-18 Thread Lie Ryan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: > Lie Ryan posted 4a3a621d.8010...@gmail.com, excerpted > below, on Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:49:49 +1000: > >> I'd rather say, because laptops are the majority now, dual monitor >> support is going to be more important. I (and I'm sure many

[gentoo-amd64] Re: Hurray! Radeon KMS in 2.6.31

2009-06-18 Thread Duncan
Lie Ryan posted 4a3aa6fb.3010...@gmail.com, excerpted below, on Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:43:39 +1000: > For changing "Resolution and Rotation", you're correct; but with or > without randr, whatever I tried I can't switch between single monitor > and dual monitor and back without restarting X. Four q

Re: [gentoo-amd64] How do I choose a second window manager?

2009-06-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Paul > Hartman wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> I found that here drag and drop works in a folder but doesn't work >>> on the desktop. >> >> When you say you are trying to move

Re: [gentoo-amd64] How do I choose a second window manager?

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >>   I found that here drag and drop works in a folder but doesn't work >> on the desktop. > > When you say you are trying to move them, are you trying to "mv" them, > or just reposition them

Re: [gentoo-amd64] How do I choose a second window manager?

2009-06-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > I found that here drag and drop works in a folder but doesn't work > on the desktop. When you say you are trying to move them, are you trying to "mv" them, or just reposition them within the same desktop workspace? (moving the icon over to th

Re: [gentoo-amd64] How do I choose a second window manager?

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Bob Sanders wrote: > Mark Knecht, mused, then expounded: >> >>    Question gets down to how does one make a decision? Not sure about >> any performance metrics. Look and feel is obviously a part of it. >> Depth of support - email (good) and forums (not so good for m

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Hurray! Radeon KMS in 2.6.31

2009-06-18 Thread Wil Reichert
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Lie Ryan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dmitri Pogosyan wrote: >>> One thing that always bugs me is that XRandR requires some >>> configuration[1] and X restart[2], >> >> Why are you say that ? One surely does not need to restart X, tha

Re: [gentoo-amd64] How do I choose a second window manager?

2009-06-18 Thread Bob Sanders
Mark Knecht, mused, then expounded: > >Question gets down to how does one make a decision? Not sure about > any performance metrics. Look and feel is obviously a part of it. > Depth of support - email (good) and forums (not so good for me). > Does it work for you? Do you hit some limit that

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Hurray! Radeon KMS in 2.6.31

2009-06-18 Thread Lie Ryan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dmitri Pogosyan wrote: >> One thing that always bugs me is that XRandR requires some >> configuration[1] and X restart[2], > > Why are you say that ? One surely does not need to restart X, that's the > whole point of XrandR > For changing "Resolut

Re: [gentoo-amd64] How do I choose a second window manager?

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Paul >> Hartman wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: XFCE seems pretty nice. It has a light feel, menus are handled, at >>

[gentoo-amd64] Re: Hurray! Radeon KMS in 2.6.31

2009-06-18 Thread Duncan
Lie Ryan posted 4a3a621d.8010...@gmail.com, excerpted below, on Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:49:49 +1000: > I'd rather say, because laptops are the majority now, dual monitor > support is going to be more important. I (and I'm sure many others) > prefer doing presentations from my own laptop, rather than

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Hurray! Radeon KMS in 2.6.31

2009-06-18 Thread Dmitri Pogosyan
> One thing that always bugs me is that XRandR requires some > configuration[1] and X restart[2], Why are you say that ? One surely does not need to restart X, that's the whole point of XrandR -- Dmitri PogosyanDepartment of Physics Associate ProfessorUniversity of Alberta

Re: [gentoo-amd64] How do I choose a second window manager?

2009-06-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Paul > Hartman wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> XFCE seems pretty nice. It has a light feel, menus are handled, at >>> least in the sense of the apps I had installed and were sh

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2009-06-18 Thread Bob Sanders
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] How do I choose a second window manager?

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> XFCE seems pretty nice. It has a light feel, menus are handled, at >> least in the sense of the apps I had installed and were showing up in >> Gnome menus are there in XFCE. I don't like t

Re: [gentoo-amd64] How do I choose a second window manager?

2009-06-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > XFCE seems pretty nice. It has a light feel, menus are handled, at > least in the sense of the apps I had installed and were showing up in > Gnome menus are there in XFCE. I don't like that it doesn't, at least > out of the box on my computer,

Re: [gentoo-amd64] How do I choose a second window manager?

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:09 AM, The Doctor wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Mark Knecht wrote: > >>    QUESTION: Is there something small, fast but also easy to use in >> terms of the environment automatically creating menus when apps are >> added or removed with emerge

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Hurray! Radeon KMS in 2.6.31

2009-06-18 Thread Lie Ryan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: > "Dmitri Pogosyan" posted > 200906172226.n5hmq9o11...@webmail.phys.ualberta.ca, excerpted below, on > Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:26:09 -0600: > >> Multimonitor functionality is, however, a must. > > FWIW, I'm in 100% agreement with you. I

Re: [gentoo-amd64] How do I choose a second window manager?

2009-06-18 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Knecht wrote: >QUESTION: Is there something small, fast but also easy to use in > terms of the environment automatically creating menus when apps are > added or removed with emerge? I know you mentioned not really wanting to run one of the /