Re: [gentoo-dev] mysql-4.1.12 call for testers

2005-05-20 Thread Rumen Yotov
Rumen Yotov wrote: >Lance Albertson wrote: > > > >>Robin H. Johnson wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>Many thanks to Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for his hard >>>work in dealing with MySQL-4.1. He's joining Gentoo soon as a new developer >>>to >>>help maintain MySQL for the 4.1 and 5.0 serie

Re: [gentoo-dev] Wireless driver / firmware ebuilds & wireless-tools

2005-05-20 Thread Doug Goldstein
Stroller wrote: > Hi, > . far to long. > > Stroller. > In summary and simple conclusion, yes you are wrong. So that makes 2 out of the 4 or 5 active Mobile herd devs who say you're wrong. brix is 100% correct. Let me give you an explaination "The firmware itself

[gentoo-dev] Wireless driver / firmware ebuilds & wireless-tools

2005-05-20 Thread Stroller
Hi, I thought about filing another bug about this, but decided I'd rather whine about it in public to get a better airing / flaming / understanding of the issues. Using a wireless network card under linux may require various components: - the hardware driver itself - a firmware to be upload

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-20 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 20 May 2005 21:30, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > > I intend that the package to be installed should not assume anything > > about where its dependencies are and should query portage for them all. > > Oh no, now many things get much clearer to me :( > > But - ar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Cummings wrote: > It's a nice idea (I know I recently opened "negotiations" up with the mips > team for access so I could close some of my open bugs against them), but the > two problems I can see with this are: remote access tends to mean yo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide and Autotools

2005-05-20 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 20 May 2005 19:11:13 +0900 Georgi Georgiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | O, so true, so true... | | I am trying to redeem myself with the following. Care to give it a | try? Pretty close, thanks. I think I'll adapt it a bit to define a cluster in make.vim and then add to that cluster i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Tom Wesley
On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 22:22 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Not gonna happen. Emulators don't cut it and won't find all the problems > (but they will find a load of other bogus non-issues). Plus, from > experience I'd say that at least half our devs wouldn't have a clue > where to start when doing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 20 May 2005 15:51:51 -0500 Brian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Wouldn't it be better from a QA perspective to go back to the (really) | old policy of dropping anything you can't test on. I know that puts | more work on you guys, but this is only going to get worse as we get | more de

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Michael Cummings
On Friday 20 May 2005 16:51, Brian Jackson wrote: > > Get every dev access to all the supported arches (some of this could > probably be done with emulators of some sort, qemu or somesuch). Make them > test on every arch before they change any keywords. It's a nice idea (I know I recently opened "

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Brian Jackson
Jason Wever wrote: > > From my perspective, if a package maintainer asks for testing and the > ability to keyword (i.e. Spanky asking me if it was OK to bump binutils > to 2.16, to which I said yes) then that is fine. However adding or > changing keywords in an ebuild for which you cannot test (

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Jason Wever
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 20 May 2005, Duncan Coutts wrote: Sorry folks this was my fault. I've sent my grovelling apology to the sparc team. Hopefully they'll accept my apologies and put my digressions down to me being a new dev. :-) You can only take some of the credit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 20 May 2005 02:53 pm, Duncan Coutts wrote: > Sorry folks this was my fault. ah, good to know ... thought it might have been my binutils-2.16 ~sparc marking, but i guess that's somewhat sane since Weeve gave it a quick run and it seems to be OK thus far ... -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Duncan Coutts
On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 10:42 -0600, Jason Wever wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > OK, let's review this again. > > If you cannot test a given ebuild on a given arch, then don't touch that > arch's keyword (unless you need to remove it for broken dependencies). > > If y

[gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Jason Wever
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, let's review this again. If you cannot test a given ebuild on a given arch, then don't touch that arch's keyword (unless you need to remove it for broken dependencies). If you can test for a given arch and are not part of that arch team, please p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for Permission

2005-05-20 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Monday 16 May 2005 23:48, Drake Wyrm wrote: > Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am operating a small IT service organization and I would like to > > put a link to Gentoo on my site. My ad: > > [snip] > > > If there is a standard ad that you would prefer, I will use it. This > > is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming scheme confusion

2005-05-20 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Tuesday 17 May 2005 10:27, Marius Mauch wrote: > > Well, it's valid with portage-2.1, but not 2.0. Concerning that, how far are we from it being testable by the general developer population? Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming scheme confusion

2005-05-20 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Monday 16 May 2005 15:04, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > > The current ebuild is orinoco-0.15_rc2-r2.ebuild, and the logical name > for a CVS snapshot would, as I see it, be > orinoco-0.15_rc2_pre20050516.ebuild, but mixing _rcX and _preY is not > allowed by portage. in any case it should be _pY

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-20 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
Jason Stubbs wrote: > I intend that the package to be installed should not assume anything about > where its dependencies are and should query portage for them all. Oh no, now many things get much clearer to me :( But - aren't there many settings left over to the packages to decide, at least

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide and Autotools

2005-05-20 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 20/05/2005-10:29:53(+0100): Ciaran McCreesh types > On Fri, 20 May 2005 18:01:04 +0900 Georgi Georgiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | > | %.1 : %.in > | > | @regex_cmd@ -e "s,[EMAIL PROTECTED]@,$(VERSION),g" $? > > $@ > | > | > | > | The first "@" is span.Specia

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide and Autotools

2005-05-20 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 20/05/2005-18:01:04(+0900): Георги Георгиев types > maillog: 20/05/2005-07:22:15(+0100): Ciaran McCreesh types > > Hrm, that's a vim thing (I'm using a vim script to do the highlighting > > at compile time, it's not manual). If someone enjoys pain the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide and Autotools

2005-05-20 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 20 May 2005 18:01:04 +0900 Georgi Georgiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > | %.1 : %.in | > | @regex_cmd@ -e "s,[EMAIL PROTECTED]@,$(VERSION),g" $? > $@ | > | | > | The first "@" is span.Special and the second one is span.Constant. | > | > Hrm, that's a vim thing (I'm using a v

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide and Autotools

2005-05-20 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 20/05/2005-07:22:15(+0100): Ciaran McCreesh types > On Fri, 20 May 2005 15:06:12 +0900 Georgi Georgiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | The phrase "when an option is specified" is a bit ambiguous, > | especially since it is later referred by the explanation of > | AC_ARG_WITH. I was not sure

[gentoo-dev] Re: UPGRADE complete bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-20 Thread R Hill
Hello. Jeffrey Forman wrote: The upgrade for bugs.gentoo.org went exactly as I had planned for. Completed in under 20 minutes, which included this email. I've upgraded our Bugzilla from the old 2.18rc2 to 2.18.1. This fixes more security and code than I can even begin to mention. I have cleaned out