Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-19 Thread Pierre-Yves Rofes
On Sun, March 18, 2007 10:53 pm, Stephen Bennett wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:46:40 + Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is why I was saying there was no point in a ~/.config directory... Generally speaking one lists the contents of one's home directory more often than one

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-19 Thread Josh Saddler
Pierre-Yves Rofes wrote: Well, I'd tend to say that it's not noticeable even under $(HOME) because one issues a ls [-l] more often than a ls -a[l]. Besides, moving all into ~/.config is just moving the problem somewhere else, not really solving it. Agreed. It's just moving the problem

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 19 March 2007, Pierre-Yves Rofes wrote: Well, I'd tend to say that it's not noticeable even under $(HOME) because one issues a ls [-l] more often than a ls -a[l]. Besides, moving all into ~/.config is just moving the problem somewhere else, not really solving it. what is the problem

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 19 March 2007, Josh Saddler wrote: I prefer per app configs right in my homedir, not in ~/.config/ -- this isnt really a point that will ever be solved ... you'll always have people who prefer the classical *nix approach over anything else -mike pgptP04nsuaBx.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 18 March 2007, Simon Stelling wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: Many applications save preferences in ~/.app/. When testing applications please make sure you test with an empty directory to catch cases when an upgrade works fine but a clean install doesn't. Thanks. Even better: Fix

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-19 Thread Seemant Kulleen
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 03:38 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: what is the problem as you see it ? the nice thing about having a ~/.config/ is that it's a directory that can obviously be added to backups or sync programs for keeping $HOME the same across multiple machines ... you dont have to

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-19 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/03/19, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the nice thing about having a ~/.config/ [...] Other nice things about it come from it not being an hardcoded path, but just a default for $XDG_CONFIG_HOME. For instance, when testing a new version of an application, you can

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 19 March 2007, Seemant Kulleen wrote: On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 03:38 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: what is the problem as you see it ? the nice thing about having a ~/.config/ is that it's a directory that can obviously be added to backups or sync programs for keeping $HOME the same

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-19 Thread Rob C
On 19/03/07, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 19 March 2007, Seemant Kulleen wrote: On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 03:38 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: what is the problem as you see it ? the nice thing about having a ~/.config/ is that it's a directory that can obviously be added

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC Package name additions

2007-03-19 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:46:22 +0100 Marijn Schouten (hkBst) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing we could do would be to separate hierarchy from version naming. This is where upstream version numbers fail to have a decent order (like your example where later versions have lower version numbers).

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: www-servers/plb

2007-03-19 Thread Raúl Porcel
# Raúl Porcel armin76 at gentoo dot org (19 Mar 2007) # Pending removal 18 May 2007, for treecleaners # Bug 150966, doesn't work with gcc4 and no new version for 4+ years www-servers/plb -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: moving USE=server to global

2007-03-19 Thread Steve Long
if you're going to change the topic mid-thread, then you should update the subject Ah apologies for that; I just wanted to get the technical objection. you already know the state of the server/client debate ... moving it to global doesnt fix any of the short comings, so it should stay local

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: moving USE=server to global

2007-03-19 Thread Jim Ramsay
Steve Long wrote: I don't see what is so dangerous about a server flag. After all I don't set doc globally, but it is a useful global flag, with clear intent, as would be server. Does it mean: A) Compile just the server, as leaving it off compiles both client AND server B) Compile the client

Re: [gentoo-dev] My turn to wear the cursed medalion of retirement

2007-03-19 Thread Jim Ramsay
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch

2007-03-19 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 21:28 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Caleb Cushing wrote: Perhaps they're more interested in generating ad revenue from whipped-up scandals... or maybe they have a point. distrowatch hpd ranking show's us down from a few years ago we

[gentoo-dev] Re: My turn to wear the cursed medalion of retirement

2007-03-19 Thread Steve Long
Alexandre Buisse wrote: I think the time has come for me to retire as a gentoo dev. There are multiple reasons to that, but mainly, it has stopped being fun a good while ago, and I don't like where I see the project heading. Man well if it stopped being fun, fair enuff. I hope you'll continue

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: moving USE=server to global

2007-03-19 Thread Steve Long
Jim Ramsay wrote: Steve Long wrote: I don't see what is so dangerous about a server flag. After all I don't set doc globally, but it is a useful global flag, with clear intent, as would be server. Does it mean: A) Compile just the server, as leaving it off compiles both client AND

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Krelin
Seriously. Everybody go to distrowatch and click on the little Gentoo no the right and watch what happens. If we got everybody to do it, then suddenly Gentoo must be the most popular distribution on the planet! Is that going to prove anything but Gentoo supporters infancy? Love, H --

[gentoo-dev] Re: My turn to wear the cursed medalion of retirement

2007-03-19 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Alexandre Buisse [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - tex is basically unmaintained. Perhaps ehmsen can be talked out of MIA, though I guess he's pretty busy at the moment, and Opfer also seemed quite interested. I've received a couple offers from users who would like to get more involved but so far no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: My turn to wear the cursed medalion of retirement

2007-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:17:19 +, Steve Long wrote: TBH I think all that was needed was saying that the pre-existing rules apply to all on the dev m-l, and actually *enforcing* those rules for devs. Devrel is clearly not set up for that, so I support the new dev-mods (sorry proctors is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch

2007-03-19 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 18:54 +0100, Michael Krelin wrote: Seriously. Everybody go to distrowatch and click on the little Gentoo no the right and watch what happens. If we got everybody to do it, then suddenly Gentoo must be the most popular distribution on the planet! Is that going

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch

2007-03-19 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 19/03/07, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 18:54 +0100, Michael Krelin wrote: Seriously. Everybody go to distrowatch and click on the little Gentoo no the right and watch what happens. If we got everybody to do it, then suddenly Gentoo must be the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Krelin
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 18:54 +0100, Michael Krelin wrote: Seriously. Everybody go to distrowatch and click on the little Gentoo no the right and watch what happens. If we got everybody to do it, then suddenly Gentoo must be the most popular distribution on the planet! Is that going to prove

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] My turn to wear the cursed medalion of retirement

2007-03-19 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2007.03.19 00:10, Alexandre Buisse wrote: Hi, [snip resignation] Alexandre, We have not worked together and have only spoken briefly on IRC. OSS is a kind of anarchy, you only get what you fight for. Your post contains a lot of good ideas, even though it comes over as as words

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] My turn to wear the cursed medalion of retirement

2007-03-19 Thread Alexandre Buisse
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 21:34:09 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: On 2007.03.19 00:10, Alexandre Buisse wrote: Hi, [snip resignation] Alexandre, We have not worked together and have only spoken briefly on IRC. OSS is a kind of anarchy, you only get what you fight for. Yes, and it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: My turn to wear the cursed medalion of retirement

2007-03-19 Thread Christopher Sawtell
TBH I think all that was needed was saying that the pre-existing rules apply to all on the dev m-l, and actually *enforcing* those rules for devs. Devrel is clearly not set up for that, so I support the new dev-mods (sorry proctors is a silly name imnsho as only Americans get it. I understand

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: moving USE=server to global

2007-03-19 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Steve Long wrote: Yeah -- server is way too generic. I've forgotten where else I use it, but when I build vnc I use it to get a VNC server. Maybe make a local vnc-server USE flag for that one. I don't see what is so dangerous about a server flag. After all I don't set doc globally, but it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch

2007-03-19 Thread Philip Webb
070319 Michael Krelin wrote: someone wrote : Seriously. Everybody go to distrowatch and click on the little Gentoo on the right I mistook seriously as relating to the rest of your letter Your name suggests you're not a native speaker. It's a common trick of stand-up comedians to introduce

[gentoo-dev] clanlib-0.6 and friends masked for removal

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-
# Michael Sterrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] (19 Mar 2007) # masked for removal in April. # Old and nasty. Not supported by upstream. # use the newer versions of clanlib instead. =dev-games/clanlib-0.6* media-libs/hermes games-sports/trophy games-action/clanbomber games-puzzle/pingus Michael Sterrett

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Add a couple new warnings to QA check

2007-03-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 19 March 2007, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: To this end it would also be useful if the QA notices were _all_ sent to the elog report; the Files were installed with user/group portage one is, but I don't think any of the others are. add qa to your elog classes and any messages that still

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Add a couple new warnings to QA check

2007-03-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 19 March 2007, Petteri Räty wrote: Is eqawarn something we can use in eclasses? We have quite a few QA checks in the java eclasses that could potentially make use of this function. If it's not part of the public API we can of course just if it exists and fall back to echo. it isnt

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Add a couple new warnings to QA check

2007-03-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: On Monday 19 March 2007, Petteri Räty wrote: Is eqawarn something we can use in eclasses? We have quite a few QA checks in the java eclasses that could potentially make use of this function. If it's not part of the public API we can of course just if it exists and