Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual/ffmpeg and media-video/libav

2011-03-29 Thread Zac Medico
On 03/28/2011 07:25 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > I hope my fears are unjustified but I'm not sure how the PMs would behave in > the following cases: > > a deps on b and virtual/ffmpeg > b deps on media-video/ffmpeg > > what happens when I want to install package 'a' on a fresh system ? the pm >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: postgresql.eselect

2011-03-29 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, Aaron W Swenson wrote: > This module is to replace the existing one that is shipped with > http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/eselect/trunk/README> Ulrich

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: New global USE flag called "ios", not same as "ipod" ?

2011-03-29 Thread Angelo Arrifano
On Ter, 2011-03-29 at 06:23 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > The magic number is often 5, this is 4 but it's only magic! > > ios (gnome-base/gvfs): > ios (media-libs/libgpod): > ios (media-sound/clementine): > ios (sys-power/upower): > > > Does this look proper? > > "Enable imobiledevice support

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: New global USE flag called "ios", not same as "ipod" ?

2011-03-29 Thread Angelo Arrifano
On Ter, 2011-03-29 at 06:23 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > The magic number is often 5, this is 4 but it's only magic! > > ios (gnome-base/gvfs): > ios (media-libs/libgpod): > ios (media-sound/clementine): > ios (sys-power/upower): > > > Does this look proper? > > "Enable imobiledevice support

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: New global USE flag called "ios", not same as "ipod" ?

2011-03-29 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 03/29/2011 02:07 PM, Angelo Arrifano wrote: > On Ter, 2011-03-29 at 06:23 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> The magic number is often 5, this is 4 but it's only magic! >> >> ios (gnome-base/gvfs): >> ios (media-libs/libgpod): >> ios (media-sound/clementine): >> ios (sys-power/upower): >> >> >> Do

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: New global USE flag called "ios", not same as "ipod" ?

2011-03-29 Thread Angelo Arrifano
On Ter, 2011-03-29 at 14:16 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 03/29/2011 02:07 PM, Angelo Arrifano wrote: > > On Ter, 2011-03-29 at 06:23 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> The magic number is often 5, this is 4 but it's only magic! > >> > >> ios (gnome-base/gvfs): > >> ios (media-libs/libgpod): >

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: New global USE flag called "ios", not same as "ipod" ?

2011-03-29 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 03/29/2011 02:21 PM, Angelo Arrifano wrote: > On Ter, 2011-03-29 at 14:16 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 03/29/2011 02:07 PM, Angelo Arrifano wrote: >>> On Ter, 2011-03-29 at 06:23 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: The magic number is often 5, this is 4 but it's only magic! ios (

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: New global USE flag called "ios", not same as "ipod" ?

2011-03-29 Thread Hanno Böck
Am Tue, 29 Mar 2011 06:23:04 +0300 schrieb Samuli Suominen : > The magic number is often 5, this is 4 but it's only magic! When I hear "ios" I first think of Cisco's IOS rather than Apple's. Is this an issue? -- Hanno Böck mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 http:/

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: New global USE flag called "ios", not same as "ipod" ?

2011-03-29 Thread Angelo Arrifano
On Ter, 2011-03-29 at 14:46 +0200, Hanno Böck wrote: > Am Tue, 29 Mar 2011 06:23:04 +0300 > schrieb Samuli Suominen : > > > The magic number is often 5, this is 4 but it's only magic! > > When I hear "ios" I first think of Cisco's IOS rather than Apple's. Is > this an issue? > Yes, it means you

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: New global USE flag called "ios", not same as "ipod" ?

2011-03-29 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 03/29/2011 03:46 PM, Hanno Böck wrote: > Am Tue, 29 Mar 2011 06:23:04 +0300 > schrieb Samuli Suominen : > >> The magic number is often 5, this is 4 but it's only magic! > > When I hear "ios" I first think of Cisco's IOS rather than Apple's. Is > this an issue? > Yeah, good point. But I sti

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: virtual/ffmpeg and media-video/libav

2011-03-29 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 29.3.2011 04:12, Alexis Ballier napsal(a): > On Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:23:48 AM Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 03/23/2011 04:08 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: >>> Hi guys, >>> As there is new ffmpeg fork that is a bit alive we should provide it as >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/PyZilla: PyZilla-0.1.0.ebuild ChangeLog metadata.xml

2011-03-29 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:17:46 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > I propose that we should be more aggressive about package.masking (for > removal) all maintainer-needed packages from the tree by doing that > one month after they become maintainer-needed. If someone doesn't > volunteer to take care of

[gentoo-dev] GNOME 3.0 slotting done

2011-03-29 Thread Christoph Mende
Hi, this is just a quick heads up, because nirbheek forced me to do it. GNOME 2.0 slot deps should be fixed after about 1,000 commits and the tree is good to go for GNOME 3.0. Everyone adding non-slot deps on gtk+ or GNOME libs will be stabbed. Thank you for your attention. signature.asc Descr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: virtual/ffmpeg and media-video/libav

2011-03-29 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 09:59:33 AM Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Dne 29.3.2011 04:12, Alexis Ballier napsal(a): > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:23:48 AM Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> On 03/23/2011 04:08 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > >>> Hi guys, > >>> As there is new ffmpeg fork that is a bit alive we

[gentoo-dev] Please enhance your USE descriptions!

2011-03-29 Thread justin
Hi, the descriptions of USE flags should explain what the USE is good for. In my opinion some thing like Enables foo intergration or Enables support for foo if it isn't totally clear what "foo" is, sucks!! There are many, many description which do not tell me as a user without googling what I co

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: virtual/ffmpeg and media-video/libav

2011-03-29 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 29.3.2011 16:05, Alexis Ballier napsal(a): > Its already starting to be a mess with the versions differing... I can't wait > to see the next API break... I really wish one of the 2 forks will die rather > sooner than later. The versions differi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please enhance your USE descriptions!

2011-03-29 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Excerpts from justin's message of Tue Mar 29 16:24:57 +0200 2011: > the descriptions of USE flags should explain what the USE is good for. > In my opinion some thing like > > Enables foo intergration > or > Enables support for foo > > if it isn't totally clear what "foo" is, sucks!! There are man

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please enhance your USE descriptions!

2011-03-29 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:24:57 +0200 justin wrote: > if it isn't totally clear what "foo" is, sucks!! You could start by pointing out some good examples of bad descriptions. > So please enhance you descriptions!! And when you do, also remove all exclamation marks. Not all Gentoo users are used t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please enhance your USE descriptions!

2011-03-29 Thread Angelo Arrifano
On Ter, 2011-03-29 at 17:08 +0200, Amadeusz Żołnowski wrote: > Excerpts from justin's message of Tue Mar 29 16:24:57 +0200 2011: > > the descriptions of USE flags should explain what the USE is good for. > > In my opinion some thing like > > > > Enables foo intergration > > or > > Enables support

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please enhance your USE descriptions!

2011-03-29 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Excerpts from Angelo Arrifano's message of Tue Mar 29 17:14:48 +0200 2011: > On Ter, 2011-03-29 at 17:08 +0200, Amadeusz Żołnowski wrote: > > I'm actually describing even global USE flags in my package's > > metadata.xml if their purpose might not be clear and I'd like to > > expect that from other

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please enhance your USE descriptions!

2011-03-29 Thread Andy Spencer
On 2011-03-29 17:10, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > You could start by pointing out some good examples of bad > descriptions. A few regular expressions might help with that: /:(\w+) - (Enable|Add) support for \1$/ /:(\w+) - (Enable|Add) \1( support)?$/ For example: app-admin/puppet:shadow - Enab

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please enhance your USE descriptions!

2011-03-29 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le mardi 29 mars 2011 à 16:02 +, Andy Spencer a écrit : > > app-office/abiword-plugins:thesaurus - Enable thesaurus support > app-office/abiword:thesaurus - Enable thesaurus support can't help you if you don't know what a thesaurus is, really :( -- Gilles Dartiguelongue Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please enhance your USE descriptions!

2011-03-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:24 PM, justin wrote: > Hi, > > the descriptions of USE flags should explain what the USE is good for. > In my opinion some thing like > > Enables foo intergration > or > Enables support for foo > > if it isn't totally clear what "foo" is, sucks!! There are many, many > de

[gentoo-dev] Re: Please enhance your USE descriptions!

2011-03-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 03/29/2011 08:00 PM, Matt Turner wrote: On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:24 PM, justin wrote: Hi, the descriptions of USE flags should explain what the USE is good for. In my opinion some thing like Enables foo intergration or Enables support for foo if it isn't totally clear what "foo" is, suck

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/PyZilla: PyZilla-0.1.0.ebuild ChangeLog metadata.xml

2011-03-29 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 15:30, Jeremy Olexa wrote: > Why does anyone need to *add* a package that is maintainer-needed? Regardless of how we might want to get rid of m-n packages, I do wonder about who commits them, and why. For example, while looking into the list of m-n packages, I also found d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please enhance your USE descriptions!

2011-03-29 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Matt Turner wrote: > One USE flag I remember in particular bothering me was > gnome-extra/gnome-games' guile USE flag. > > The global description says "guile - Adds support for the guile Scheme > interpreter" but this flag is actually determines whether a number o

[gentoo-dev] lastrite: net-mail/mailwrapper net-mail/mailer-config

2011-03-29 Thread Eray Aslan
# Eray Aslan (29 Mar 2011) # Abandoned project. Last release in 2005. Bugs #158003, #97589, # #359411. # Removal in 90 days net-mail/mailwrapper net-mail/mailer-config

Re: [gentoo-dev] lastrite: net-mail/mailwrapper net-mail/mailer-config

2011-03-29 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 3/29/11 9:52 PM, Eray Aslan wrote: > # Eray Aslan (29 Mar 2011) > # Abandoned project. Last release in 2005. Bugs #158003, #97589, > # #359411. > # Removal in 90 days > net-mail/mailwrapper > net-mail/mailer-config That's cool. All I remember about it are file collisions. Thanks! signatur

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: postgresql.eselect

2011-03-29 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/29/2011 05:06 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, Aaron W Swenson wrote: > >> This module is to replace the existing one that is shipped with >> > Some remarks: > > - Global scope code is a no-no in eselect modules, especi

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: USE="hal" masked in base/use.mask and related

2011-03-29 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 11:36:00AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > USE="hal" is masked in base/use.mask, but unmasked for kde-base/solid > and app-cdr/k3b in base/package.use.mask pending on KDE 4.6.x stabilization. > > This is preparation for dropping the uncompressed usb.ids file from > sys-apps

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: postgresql.eselect

2011-03-29 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:05:01 -0400 "Aaron W. Swenson" wrote: > > - Suppressing stdout of commands like "do_action env update" is fine, > > but why suppress stderr? > > > Because 'ls' would complain that files didn't exist, such as lib*.dylib > when on a Linux system. It doesn't matter. But, us

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please enhance your USE descriptions!

2011-03-29 Thread justin
On 29/03/11 18:02, Andy Spencer wrote: > On 2011-03-29 17:10, Jeroen Roovers wrote: >> You could start by pointing out some good examples of bad >> descriptions. > > A few regular expressions might help with that: > > /:(\w+) - (Enable|Add) support for \1$/ > /:(\w+) - (Enable|Add) \1( suppor