[gentoo-dev] Re: !!! ERROR !!!

2013-02-09 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:40:00 + Markos Chandras wrote: > > Live a little. Send a funny email to a list once. > > I think you are on the wrong list then. Has anyone seen my stick? I left it right here... -- gcc-porting toolchain, wxwidgetslearn a language baby, it's that kind o

[gentoo-dev] Re: New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-09 Thread Duncan
Andreas K. Huettel posted on Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:29:45 +0100 as excerpted: > For your information, in the default/linux tree > * all 13.0 profiles have been created and are marked stable the > same way as 10.0 was > * all 10.0 profiles have been removed from profiles.desc > * all 10.0 profiles hav

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-09 Thread Douglas Freed
> * all 13.0 profiles have been created and are marked stable the same way as > 10.0 was > * all 10.0 profiles have been removed from profiles.desc > * all 10.0 profiles have been deprecated Suggestion: perhaps a news item should be created for the migration to the new profiles? As a Gentoo user

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
For your information, in the default/linux tree * all 13.0 profiles have been created and are marked stable the same way as 10.0 was * all 10.0 profiles have been removed from profiles.desc * all 10.0 profiles have been deprecated IMHO the waiting time of 1 year decided by Council starts now bef

Re: [gentoo-dev] On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:15:03 -0300 Alexis Ballier wrote: > I hope this will be trivial to most of you but after seeing bug #455900 > and the vast majority of developers not even thinking twice before > sedding their dep strings, I believe this needs some attention. As a note for those who get irr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 09-02-2013 a las 18:39 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: > On 09/02/13 18:36, Michael Palimaka wrote: > > Eg. He wrote we should use 'media-libs/libpng:0=', but pre-subslots, the > > :0 was often (incorrectly?) omitted. > > I've at least been adding :0 to many packages, openssl, tiff, libpn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 09/02/13 18:36, Michael Palimaka wrote: Eg. He wrote we should use 'media-libs/libpng:0=', but pre-subslots, the :0 was often (incorrectly?) omitted. I've at least been adding :0 to many packages, openssl, tiff, libpng ... ... pretty much ever since the libpng 1.4 "upgrade problem" in the p

[gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 10/02/2013 03:06, Zac Medico wrote: On 02/09/2013 06:05 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: Is there a difference in behaviour between 'media-libs/libpng:=' and 'media-libs/libpng' with no slot information at all? I don't know if you phrased your question as intended. Anyway, yes, the difference is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 02/09/2013 06:05 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: > Is there a difference in behaviour between 'media-libs/libpng:=' and > 'media-libs/libpng' with no slot information at all? I don't know if you phrased your question as intended. Anyway, yes, the difference is that one with the slot-operator will t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild

2013-02-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Luca Barbato wrote: > I hope somebody not Libav nor FFmpeg committer could come up with a > pros-cons list. ++, but frankly the committers are probably in the best place to do any evaluation even if they likely have some bias. If you wanted to delve into the merit

[gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 9/02/2013 23:52, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:38:35 +1100 Michael Palimaka wrote: I even noticed some maintainers adding subslots dependencies on libraries that do not yet define subslots. This too seems reasonable, given that there would be no impact until the library defin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild

2013-02-09 Thread Luca Barbato
On 08/02/13 22:46, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:41:04 +0100 > Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > >> On Thursday 07 of February 2013 06:52:44 Peter Stuge wrote: >> >>> Tomáš Chvátal wrote: we as gentoo will provide both while preffered default will be what major distros use. >>>

[gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 10/02/2013 00:47, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 09/02/13 14:15, Alexis Ballier wrote: Dear fellow developers, I didn't find anything to reply directly here, so sorry for stealing this message. I just wanted to point out that people have lately been adding deps like: media-libs/libpng:= dev-li

Re: [gentoo-dev] On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 09/02/13 14:15, Alexis Ballier wrote: Dear fellow developers, I didn't find anything to reply directly here, so sorry for stealing this message. I just wanted to point out that people have lately been adding deps like: media-libs/libpng:= dev-libs/openssl:= That is wrong as it completel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:38:35 +1100 Michael Palimaka wrote: > I even noticed some maintainers adding subslots dependencies on > libraries that do not yet define subslots. This too seems reasonable, > given that there would be no impact until the library defines a > (sensible) subslot in the fut

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:38:35 +1100 Michael Palimaka wrote: > Hi, > > On 9/02/2013 23:15, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > Dear fellow developers, > > > > I hope this will be trivial to most of you but after seeing bug > > #455900 and the vast majority of developers not even thinking twice > > before se

[gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Michael Palimaka
Hi, On 9/02/2013 23:15, Alexis Ballier wrote: Dear fellow developers, I hope this will be trivial to most of you but after seeing bug #455900 and the vast majority of developers not even thinking twice before sedding their dep strings, I believe this needs some attention. What is wrong with m

[gentoo-dev] On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
Dear fellow developers, I hope this will be trivial to most of you but after seeing bug #455900 and the vast majority of developers not even thinking twice before sedding their dep strings, I believe this needs some attention. What do subslots do: You set a subslot to a package and every time sai

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC

2013-02-09 Thread Michael Weber
On 02/09/2013 12:26 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Stefan Ehret wrote: >> >> * * >> * PLEACE SAFE THE SOURCE * >> * * >> **

Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 9 Feb 2013, Michał Górny wrote: > I don't think that solves the license problem properly. Say, if user > doesn't want non-free software, he's going to have the whole package > masked. He'd have to work-around license + savedconfig. > Now that I look at it, it seems that the ebuild d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:09:15 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 09/02/13 11:06, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > > > >> 2013/2/8 Diego Elio Pettenò : > >>> I would say that we might want to review linux-firmware, and if the > >>> newest firmware _is_ there,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread J. Roeleveld
Samuli Suominen wrote: >On 09/02/13 11:11, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: >>> 2013/2/8 Diego Elio Pettenò : > I would say that we might want to review linux-firmware, and if >the > newest firmware _is_ there, just ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 09 Feb 2013, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> I disagree. Why should we force users to install lots of crap (some >> of it being non-free) that they will never need because they don't >> have the hardware? > Maybe you don't understand how linux-firmware package works. It only > installs wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 09/02/13 11:11, J. Roeleveld wrote: Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: 2013/2/8 Diego Elio Pettenò : I would say that we might want to review linux-firmware, and if the newest firmware _is_ there, just get rid of the split one. That should be probably the b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread J. Roeleveld
Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > >> 2013/2/8 Diego Elio Pettenò : >>> I would say that we might want to review linux-firmware, and if the >>> newest firmware _is_ there, just get rid of the split one. >>> >> That should be probably the best approach, to act

Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 09/02/13 11:06, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: 2013/2/8 Diego Elio Pettenò : I would say that we might want to review linux-firmware, and if the newest firmware _is_ there, just get rid of the split one. That should be probably the best approach, to actual

Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > 2013/2/8 Diego Elio Pettenò : >> I would say that we might want to review linux-firmware, and if the >> newest firmware _is_ there, just get rid of the split one. >> > That should be probably the best approach, to actually kill of the > lone ones a