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On 08/06/2013 12:09 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
Various proposed names (in no specific order):
names, *sigh*
It's rather a interface setup utility than a networking thing.
Networkin happens - most cases - when you have paths and entities and
such
On 06/08/2013 00:09, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a single
person to respond to. I DO want more brainstorming on ideas for the
naming of the package, and I think people need to cast a wider net for
naming ideas.
I'm most certainly not
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:57:55 +0200
Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote:
Currently, USE flag descriptions are a mix of imperative (Enable)
and indicative (Enables) forms, the former occuring more often:
Enable : Enables = 2143 : 408
Add : Adds = 525 : 341
Build :
It seems none of them (except the overview GLEP 57) are implemented yet,
although they are roughly 6-8 years old.
What is holding it back? Is it just that we don't have a PM
implementation yet or is it some political nonsense and PMS blocking
progress again?
I am not criticizing the portage team
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On 05/08/13 12:10 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2013-08-05, o godz. 11:50:38 Alexis Ballier
aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:06:33 +0300 Samuli Suominen
ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
The plan is to change SLOT of
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On 05/08/13 12:51 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 17:36:49 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh
ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:22:32 -0400 Alexis Ballier
aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 17:13:49 +0100
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On 05/08/13 01:07 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Alexis Ballier
aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:10:46 +0200 Michał Górny
mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
We can simply have multiple virtual versions, each
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On 05/08/13 01:58 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:28:54 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh
ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:51:48 -0400 Alexis Ballier
aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
Not really. There's a tradeoff
On 06/08/13 10:02 AM, hasufell wrote:
It seems none of them (except the overview GLEP 57) are implemented yet,
although they are roughly 6-8 years old.
What is holding it back? Is it just that we don't have a PM
implementation yet or is it some political nonsense and PMS blocking
progress
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On 06/08/13 10:21 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
On 05/08/13 01:58 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:28:54 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh
ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:51:48 -0400 Alexis Ballier
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On 05/08/13 09:45 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 08/05/2013 06:09 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
- netrc (conflicts)
Would naming it net-rc alleviate the perceived conflict?
Or alternatively, rc-net ?
(google seems to reference 'rc' as 'remote
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 10:21:52 -0400
Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote:
subslot = concatenation of the subslots of all (positive? if it
makes sense) dependencies; updated when said dependencies get their
subslot changed.
this seems to fit well for a virtual and should be in line with
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:49:49 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
Again, symbols have nothing to do here. Since you have poor control on
overlays and absolutely zero control on locally built packages, the
only sane assumption is that all symbols are used.
And that answers your
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:25:12 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:49:49 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
Again, symbols have nothing to do here. Since you have poor control
on overlays and absolutely zero control on locally built
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:09:54PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a single
person to respond to. I DO want more brainstorming on ideas for the
naming of the package, and I think people need to cast a wider net for
naming ideas.
Robin,
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:16:57 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:25:12 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:49:49 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
Again, symbols have nothing to do here. Since you
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 17:30:56 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:16:57 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:25:12 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:49:49 -0400
Am Dienstag, 6. August 2013, 11:26:16 schrieb William Hubbs:
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:09:54PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a single
person to respond to. I DO want more brainstorming on ideas for the
naming of the package, and I
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:05:07 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
'occasional unnecessary rebuild' is a big deal since subslots
introduce this regression...
Er, no. Subslots just simplify the way accurate slot dependencies are
expressed. That's all they are: an alternative to having a
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:41:59 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:05:07 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
'occasional unnecessary rebuild' is a big deal since subslots
introduce this regression...
Er, no. Subslots just simplify
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:12:06 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:41:59 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:05:07 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
'occasional unnecessary rebuild' is a big deal
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 19:25:15 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:12:06 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:41:59 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:05:07 -0400
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:31:14 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
Well, ok, but this doesn't relate to what I was writing. Subslot, or
slot emulators or whatever, in their current usage with :=
dependencies, are not fine grained enough for some use cases. Those
cause regressions if
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On 30/07/13 04:42 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
cryptsetup upstream installed minimal Gentoo setup and tested our
handling of 'static' and was disappointed finding them broken
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438998 - RESO/TEST -
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:44:57 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:31:14 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
Well, ok, but this doesn't relate to what I was writing. Subslot, or
slot emulators or whatever, in their current usage with :=
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On 06/08/13 04:22 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:44:57 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh
ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:31:14 -0400 Alexis Ballier
aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
Well, ok, but this doesn't relate
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:22:48 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:44:57 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:31:14 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
Well, ok, but this doesn't relate to what I was
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On 06/08/13 04:17 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
On 30/07/13 04:42 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
cryptsetup upstream installed minimal Gentoo setup and tested our
handling of 'static' and was disappointed finding them broken
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:28:06 -0400
Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote:
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On 06/08/13 04:22 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:44:57 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh
ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:31:14
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:39:14 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
This is not a regression from my definition:
Software regression, the appearance of a bug which was absent in a
previous revision
A bug in this case is one of the user's packages no longer working
after an upgrade,
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 21:33:02 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:22:48 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:44:57 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:31:14 -0400
23:37:25 willikins rej, you have notes! [21:13] mrueg Let me
rephrase this: Just a friendly notice to please refrain from rephrasing
bug summaries from Stabilize ${P} to ${P} stable req. This just
adds unneeded noise to the bug. I don't want this on bugs I've reported
or am assigned to.
This is
Am Dienstag, 6. August 2013, 23:46:08 schrieb Jeroen Roovers:
23:37:25 willikins rej, you have notes! [21:13] mrueg Let me
rephrase this: Just a friendly notice to please refrain from rephrasing
bug summaries from Stabilize ${P} to ${P} stable req. This just
adds unneeded noise to the bug. I
Ian Stakenvicius posted on Tue, 06 Aug 2013 10:47:05 -0400 as excerpted:
Or alternatively, rc-net ?
(google seems to reference 'rc' as 'remote control' as in race cars,
airplanes, etc; but given /etc/rc.* and /etc/init* have been around
forever and have always been called the rc system, i
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