Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/04/14 05:02, Matt Turner wrote: On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Projects like the Council, ComRel and QA are there to protect Gentoo; and yes, people are (or should be) lining up to protect Gentoo. ... from QA. You don't seem to understand what

[OT] Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 19:47:07 -0700 Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:18 PM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Tom... I am not sure if you know that, but your posts are difficult to read. You split up posts horribly and I am often unable to follow what you

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 19:02:08 -0700 Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: You don't seem to understand what Samuli is saying. QA is being used as an offensive weapon. It's a stick to bludgeon others with. Yes, I understood;

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:00:19 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 02/04/14 05:02, Matt Turner wrote: You don't seem to understand what Samuli is saying. QA is being used as an offensive weapon. It's a stick to bludgeon others with. Exactly. Anyone remembers what happened

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/04/14 11:28, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:00:19 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 02/04/14 05:02, Matt Turner wrote: You don't seem to understand what Samuli is saying. QA is being used as an offensive weapon. It's a stick to bludgeon others with.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable masks on multilib packages

2014-04-02 Thread Ben de Groot
On 1 April 2014 21:58, Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-01 at 13:13 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: On 1 April 2014 06:16, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello, all. The late multilib ppc issues made me re-check our stable masks on abi_x86_* flags and,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable masks on multilib packages

2014-04-02 Thread Ben de Groot
On 2 April 2014 07:38, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/01/2014 01:13 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: On 1 April 2014 06:16, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello, all. The late multilib ppc issues made me re-check our stable masks on abi_x86_* flags and, honestly, I'm not sure if

[gentoo-dev] Solving OpenCL /dev/dri/card* sandbox issues w/ ImageMagick

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
Problem 1: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=472766#c21 I'm not sure if wildcards are supported by /etc/sandbox.d/ files Problem 2: I don't know if this bug is ImageMagick+OpenCL _or_ OpenCL alone specific since emacs is having similar issues? Assistance required from emacs maintainer to

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 11:29:28 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 02/04/14 11:28, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:00:19 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 02/04/14 05:02, Matt Turner wrote: You don't seem to understand what Samuli is saying.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: sandbox access violations while running matlab binary installer

2014-04-02 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Jonathan Callen jcal...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 04/01/2014 10:03 AM, Kfir Lavi wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:53 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Alexandre Rostovtsev posted on Mon, 31 Mar 2014

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 2. April 2014, 10:29:28 schrieb Samuli Suominen: On 02/04/14 11:28, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:00:19 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 02/04/14 05:02, Matt Turner wrote: You don't seem to understand what Samuli is saying. QA is being used

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/04/14 13:45, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Mittwoch, 2. April 2014, 10:29:28 schrieb Samuli Suominen: On 02/04/14 11:28, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:00:19 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 02/04/14 05:02, Matt Turner wrote: You don't seem to understand

Re: [gentoo-dev] Solving OpenCL /dev/dri/card* sandbox issues w/ ImageMagick

2014-04-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed 02 Apr 2014 13:01:25 Samuli Suominen wrote: Problem 1: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=472766#c21 I'm not sure if wildcards are supported by /etc/sandbox.d/ files they are not. however, path matching is based on prefixes, so there's always an implicit glob at the end.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable masks on multilib packages

2014-04-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed 02 Apr 2014 17:14:02 Ben de Groot wrote: On 1 April 2014 21:58, Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-01 at 13:13 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: On 1 April 2014 06:16, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello, all. The late multilib ppc issues made

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable masks on multilib packages

2014-04-02 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 17:25 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: I'm strongly considering reverting these changes in the packages I maintain. I'm tired of having to deal time and again with multilib breakage. Either that, or someone else can take over primary maintainership. Ben, if you are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Solving OpenCL /dev/dri/card* sandbox issues w/ ImageMagick

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/04/14 16:01, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wed 02 Apr 2014 13:01:25 Samuli Suominen wrote: Problem 1: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=472766#c21 I'm not sure if wildcards are supported by /etc/sandbox.d/ files they are not. however, path matching is based on prefixes, so there's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Solving OpenCL /dev/dri/card* sandbox issues w/ ImageMagick

2014-04-02 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Samuli Suominen schrieb: You are right I believe this started after a major mesa version bump, so I'd start looking for the culprit in Mesa's OpenCL code, but I have no idea howto go futher with the debugging... yet The problem is finding a general way for OpenCL to force it to run on the

[gentoo-dev] Change or revert the 30 days maintainer timeout stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
The 30 days maintainer time out stabilization policy isn't working when package has multiple SLOTs, because the bugs are filed for only latest SLOT, where as some packages require stabilization in sync at both SLOTs Option 1: Either revert the whole policy, and never CC arches on unanswered bugs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable masks on multilib packages

2014-04-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 20:58:30 -0400 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: Now let's just continue to ignore the existing multilib-portage work so we can claim it's irrelevant, while shifting the conditions for accepting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the 30 days maintainer timeout stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: The 30 days maintainer time out stabilization policy isn't working when package has multiple SLOTs, because the bugs are filed for only latest SLOT, where as some packages require stabilization in sync at both SLOTs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the 30 days maintainer timeout stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/04/14 21:22, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: The 30 days maintainer time out stabilization policy isn't working when package has multiple SLOTs, because the bugs are filed for only latest SLOT, where as some packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the 30 days maintainer timeout stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I'm just not sure what any of the randomly filed stablereqs are for. It doesn't help anyone, unless the guy who filed it actually uses it or if it is a blocker for another stabilization. It's annoying me for some time now. I expect maintainers to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the 30 days maintainer timeout stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:28 PM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm just not sure what any of the randomly filed stablereqs are for. It doesn't help anyone, unless the guy who filed it actually uses it or if it is a blocker for another stabilization. It's annoying me for some time now. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/01/2014 11:55 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 01/04/14 18:28, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:23:43 + hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: And this is going to get worse if people don't trust them. Currently it looks more like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the 30 days maintainer timeout stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-04-02, o godz. 19:28:30 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org napisał(a): I'm just not sure what any of the randomly filed stablereqs are for. It doesn't help anyone, unless the guy who filed it actually uses it or if it is a blocker for another stabilization. It's annoying me for some

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/01/2014 02:41 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 01/04/14 21:33, Tom Wijsman wrote: Okay, but this isn't what happened yet; because your plan was to send out a mail after stabilization for everyone to adapt the reverse dependencies, and I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the 30 days maintainer timeout stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: On the packages I maintain, I tend to use the latest unstable version of the software. Stabilizing them rarely crosses my mind. I rather like the semi-automated reminders. They come in handy for my own packages, as well as

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/2014 02:00 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/04/14 05:02, Matt Turner wrote: On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Projects like the Council, ComRel and QA are there to protect Gentoo; and yes, people are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the 30 days maintainer timeout stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Ok, noted that other people like to have those reminders. Rich Freeman: Another option might be to have a tag in metadata.xml that flags packages as never-stable or indicating that stabilization requires coordination, which might help with

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item draft for =sys-fs/udev-209 upgrade

2014-04-02 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/24/2014 12:32 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: If it's okay, I'd want to post this fast, before adding KEYWORDS to sys-fs/udev-209's ebuild Should means required now? Man if I only knew that last week... - -Zero -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

[gentoo-dev] Protecting config files of webapps

2014-04-02 Thread Thomas Kahle
Hi, www-apps/tt-rss is configured through a file config.php sitting in its install directory. At the moment the file is overwritten when upgrading with webapp-config. Who is responsible for config-protecting this file? a) the ebuild should install an env file (www-apps/otrs does this) b) the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the 30 days maintainer timeout stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Alex Xu
On 02/04/14 04:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: Another option might be to have a tag in metadata.xml that flags packages as never-stable Arguments have been made that such packages do not belong in g-x86. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make udev optional in net-wireless/bluez?

2014-04-02 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/10/2014 07:29 PM, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: Picking a random mail in the thread. Making udev dependency always on is a deliberate choice here, as noted by Alexandre, the library will be most likely useless without it and we simply don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the 30 days maintainer timeout stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Alex Xu: On 02/04/14 04:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: Another option might be to have a tag in metadata.xml that flags packages as never-stable Arguments have been made that such packages do not belong in g-x86. I did understand it the way

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Rich Freeman
(picking this email to reply to, but it isn't mean to single anybody out) On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: Wow, now that I can see it your way I agree, I'm a horrible person. I'll stick to randomly changing the tree as I see fit with no

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/04/14 23:07, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: On 04/02/2014 02:00 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/04/14 05:02, Matt Turner wrote: On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Projects like the Council, ComRel and QA are there to protect Gentoo; and yes,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the 30 days maintainer timeout stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Alex Xu alex_y...@yahoo.ca wrote: On 02/04/14 04:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: Another option might be to have a tag in metadata.xml that flags packages as never-stable Arguments have been made that such packages do not belong in g-x86. Why not? In general I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make udev optional in net-wireless/bluez?

2014-04-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: Honestly I'd rather see this split up into libbluetooth and bluez than make it possible to build a nearly entirely crippled bluez with no udev support. I think the right approach really depends on usefulness.

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item draft for =sys-fs/udev-209 upgrade

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/04/14 23:15, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: On 02/24/2014 12:32 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: If it's okay, I'd want to post this fast, before adding KEYWORDS to sys-fs/udev-209's ebuild Should means required now? Man if I only knew that last week... Sorry?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable masks on multilib packages

2014-04-02 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm strongly considering reverting these changes in the packages I maintain. I'm tired of having to deal time and again with multilib breakage. Either that, or someone else can take over primary maintainership. I'd be

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-devel/llvm: llvm-3.4.ebuild llvm-9999.ebuild ChangeLog

2014-04-02 Thread hasufell
Maybe it is just me, but I take the chance and responsibility. This commit caused /usr/bin/clang being 32bit on my amd64 system. I compiled it 3 times. I have reverted the commit for the live ebuild, reverted it for 3.4-r1 and hardmasked 3.4 to ensure that people who unmasked 3.4 on stable arch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the 30 days maintainer timeout stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 04/03/2014 12:52 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: The 30 days maintainer time out stabilization policy isn't working when package has multiple SLOTs, because the bugs are filed for only latest SLOT, where as some packages require stabilization in sync at both SLOTs Question: Why is the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the 30 days maintainer timeout stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/04/14 03:28 PM, hasufell wrote: I'm just not sure what any of the randomly filed stablereqs are for. It doesn't help anyone, unless the guy who filed it actually uses it or if it is a blocker for another stabilization. It's annoying me