Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-17 Thread Alexe Stefan
On 9/17/23, Arsen Arsenović wrote: > In the meanwhile, while the two downstream volunteers address that, an > ::eudev overlay can be established. As I went over in another email I > posted to this thread, it should not be particularly difficult to > implement or maintain (nowhere close to LibreSS

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] last rites (kinda, long masked): sys-apps/opentmpfiles

2023-09-17 Thread Alexe Stefan
On 9/17/23, orbea wrote: > On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 12:58:00 +0200 > Arsen Arsenović wrote: > >> Alexe Stefan writes: >> >> > One is written in shell, the other is written in c.(no problems >> > here) >> >> Not that implementation language matter

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-17 Thread Alexe Stefan
On 9/17/23, Arsen Arsenović wrote: > > Alexe Stefan writes: > >> Yet another example of choice being restricted by gentoo. >> However, there at least is a better reason for not keeping libressl in >> ::Gentoo, that reason being qt. > > ... and the swath

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] last rites (kinda, long masked): sys-apps/opentmpfiles

2023-09-17 Thread Alexe Stefan
On 9/17/23, David Seifert wrote: > On Sun, 2023-09-17 at 08:26 +0300, Alexe Stefan wrote: >> One is written in shell, the other is written in c.(no problems here) >> One is not part of systemd, the other is. >> How are they identical. >> >> I use this on my raspi

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] last rites (kinda, long masked): sys-apps/opentmpfiles

2023-09-16 Thread Alexe Stefan
One is written in shell, the other is written in c.(no problems here) One is not part of systemd, the other is. How are they identical. I use this on my raspi server, works fine. Gentoo really became a systemd distro, further restricting choice by the day.

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-16 Thread Alexe Stefan
On 9/16/23, David Seifert wrote: > On Fri, 2023-09-15 at 15:40 -0700, orbea wrote: >> On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 01:19:22 +0200 >> Arsen Arsenović wrote: >> >> > "Eddie Chapman" writes: >> > >> > > Not aiming this at you personally but this argument has been made >> > > more than once in this thread an

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-14 Thread Alexe Stefan
On 9/14/23, Alex Boag-Munroe wrote: > On Thu, 14 Sept 2023 at 17:50, Eddie Chapman wrote: >> > > > No one is telling anyone not to use it. The question has been asked "why use > it" > to ascertain reasons for keeping it in ::gentoo. Something not being in > ::gentoo isn't a decree to not use it,

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-13 Thread Alexe Stefan
It seems like the discussion got way off-topic. To see where where at, I'll try to summarize what was said so far. The claims are that eudev is unmaintained upstream, downstream and has open bugs. Upstream, last commit was 3 weeks ago. Downstream, Orbea said he is willing to help maintain it. He i

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Alexe Stefan
On 9/13/23, Dale wrote: > Alexe Stefan wrote: >> >> While my posts may be a little bit inflammatory, no one pointed out >> where I'm wrong. >> I don't hate gentoo, but I don't want choice to be taken away from users. >> If we(the users) on

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Alexe Stefan
To be clear, I don't say that devs shouldn't get paid. They should just be honest about who pays them to make changes.

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Alexe Stefan
On 9/13/23, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 9/13/23 1:03 AM, Alexe Stefan wrote: >> On 9/13/23, Eli Schwartz wrote: >>> On 9/13/23 12:35 AM, Alexe Stefan wrote: >>>> On 9/13/23, Matt Turner wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:45 PM Alexe Stefan >

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Alexe Stefan
On 9/13/23, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 9/13/23 12:35 AM, Alexe Stefan wrote: >> On 9/13/23, Matt Turner wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:45 PM Alexe Stefan >>> wrote: >>>> Is it such a burden to make a couple of commits once in a while? >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Alexe Stefan
On 9/13/23, Matt Turner wrote: > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:45 PM Alexe Stefan > wrote: >> >> On 9/13/23, Matt Turner wrote: >> > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:23 PM Eddie Chapman wrote: >> >> Why would you think that by having an alternative in tree it means

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Alexe Stefan
On 9/13/23, Matt Turner wrote: > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:23 PM Eddie Chapman wrote: >> Why would you think that by having an alternative in tree it means that >> everyone else is then forced into doing work that they don't want to and >> it will inconvenience everyone? > > Because it's already

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Alexe Stefan
On 9/12/23, Matt Turner wrote: > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 1:24 PM Alexe Stefan > wrote: >> All this makes me wonder, what really is the reason for this shitshow. >> Something tells me systemd and it's shims will never be without a >> maintainer, regardless of how &q

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Alexe Stefan
there is no sane reason any userspace application should care >how >the entries in /dev are made. There is also no sane reason to break your >API >every few months when the good idea fairy comes to call. As for this: >Alexe Stefan writes: >> Must eudev be 100% compa

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-11 Thread Alexe Stefan
Must eudev be 100% compatible with all the garbage that gets shoved into udev to stay in ::gentoo? I don't see mdev being held to that standard. On 9/12/23, Alexey Sokolov wrote: > 11.09.2023 22:35, Sam James пишет: >> >> Alexey Sokolov writes: >> >>> 11.09.2023 22:21, Sam James пишет: orbe

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Multiple packages up for grabs (incl. zsh, feh, zathura, qbittorrent)

2023-08-26 Thread Alexe Stefan
Just... how? Are there really that few people using them? I thought these were popular packages. Of the list, I only use feh, qbittorrent and libtorrent-rasterbar. Thank you to those who said they are willing to maintain feh, Orbea and Yixun Lan. What is going to happen to the other 2 packages? Hop

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-08 Thread Alexe Stefan
Can you build firefox/librewolf with gcc? Afaik, you can only build it with clang/llvm. Librewolf if the only reason I have clang and llvm on my system. joi, 8 iun. 2023, 10:31 Joonas Niilola a scris: > Luckily few years ago > Mozilla invested in a pretty efficient CI system where they now test

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Alexe Stefan
I don't use chromium and I don't know what release cycle it has, but can't those interested in running chromium use an ebuild that tracks the git tree and updates after every change. The maintenance burden would be minimal, and any patches could be applied with /etc/portage/patches. If something li

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Alexe Stefan
My finger slipped in my last mail. How do you see how many people are using a package? On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 10:58 AM Alexe Stefan wrote: > > > mie., 7 iun. 2023, 13:56 Sam James a scris: > >> >> This becomes more pressing as the vulnerabilities pile up: >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Alexe Stefan
mie., 7 iun. 2023, 13:56 Sam James a scris: > > This becomes more pressing as the vulnerabilities pile up: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/907999. > > Nobody interested at all? We have more than enough people *using* it.. > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] profiles: create USE=valgrind global USE flag

2023-05-27 Thread Alexe Stefan
So it's only useful for developers that already use valgrind. sâm., 27 mai 2023, 17:13 Sam James a scris: > > Alexe Stefan writes: > > > In that case, is it worth it to enable USE=valgrind globally? > > I have, and I'd say others interested in using Valgrind should too. > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] profiles: create USE=valgrind global USE flag

2023-05-27 Thread Alexe Stefan
In that case, is it worth it to enable USE=valgrind globally? vin., 26 mai 2023, 10:44 Sam James a scris: > > Sam James writes: > > > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > > > > Sam James writes: > > > >> Alexe Stefan writes: > >> > >>&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites: app-portage/layman

2023-05-22 Thread Alexe Stefan
Regarding the dependency on pyGPG and g-sorcery, I have layman installed without any of those programs installed. vin., 19 mai 2023, 02:08 Sam James a scris: > > Alexe Stefan writes: > > > Layman is still a convenient way of managing overlays. It still works > > as inten

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites: app-portage/layman

2023-05-22 Thread Alexe Stefan
What is the alternative to layman -S? I would like to have a way of syncing only my overlays, as there are often fixes pushed multiple times in the same day and I would like to avoid syncing ::gentoo every time I sync my overlays. vin., 19 mai 2023, 02:08 Sam James a scris: > > Alexe

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites: app-portage/layman

2023-05-18 Thread Alexe Stefan
Layman is still a convenient way of managing overlays. It still works as intended. Is there any way for it to be kept in the repos? vin., 19 mai 2023, 01:35 David Seifert a scris: > # David Seifert (2023-05-19) > # Abandoned, replaced by 'eselect repository', tons of open bugs. > # Removal on 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] profiles: create USE=valgrind global USE flag

2023-05-14 Thread Alexe Stefan
Does enabling USE=valgrind impact runtime performance in any way? dum., 14 mai 2023, 19:46 Arsen Arsenović a scris: > > Sam James writes: > > > This always has the same meaning in packages - build in annotations to > help > > with e.g. custom memory allocators to reduce noise and improve > Valg