Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Ability to pass arguments to src_configure/src_compile

2008-09-09 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Vaeth wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Having to write an ebuild just to install something in a package manager friendly way and be able to uninstall it cleanly later is a defect No, this is exactly what ebuilds meant for: That the package manager keeps track of your package, and possibly also re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Multislot dependencies

2008-06-28 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Tiziano Müller schrieb: Bernd Steinhauser wrote: Tiziano Müller schrieb: Bernd Steinhauser wrote: Tiziano Müller schrieb: Hi everyone I'd like to bring bug #229521 to your attention and see whether we can come up with a solution for it. The problem: A package "foo" depen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Multislot dependencies

2008-06-28 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Tiziano Müller schrieb: Bernd Steinhauser wrote: Tiziano Müller schrieb: Hi everyone I'd like to bring bug #229521 to your attention and see whether we can come up with a solution for it. The problem: A package "foo" depends on a slotted package "bar" _and_ more t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multislot dependencies

2008-06-28 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Tiziano Müller schrieb: Hi everyone I'd like to bring bug #229521 to your attention and see whether we can come up with a solution for it. The problem: A package "foo" depends on a slotted package "bar" _and_ more than one slot of "bar" can satisfy this dependency. Why this is a problem: If th

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Benedikt Morbach schrieb: ++ I'm a user too and I really find it annoying that one can't read this list to keep up with recent development, without digging to tons of FUD, insults and other crap. I personally came to the conclusion that it is best to simply ignore all mails from certain people (

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Luca Barbato schrieb: Bernd Steinhauser wrote: With your approach, we would have to fix the version after every 4.1.x release. That sounds awful, tbh. So: No that enforce people update the deps or at least gives one more reason to do. Keep in mind that -, -scm ebuild or .live templates

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Ryan Hill schrieb: On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:53:51 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:19:32 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm confused. If I have a gcc-4.4.0.live ebuild which checks out rev. 136737, after the merge do I h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Luca Barbato schrieb: Bernd Steinhauser wrote: In the -scm approach this means: trunk = -scm 4.1 branch = -4.1-scm so you'll be oblivious of changes needed inside the ebuild and you won't know what you merged last time you issued an emerge =foo-scm (that by itself it is a problem

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Patrick Lauer schrieb: On Saturday 14 June 2008 14:11:12 Bernd Steinhauser wrote: That's what metadata is there for. And ebuilds don't mind carrying a bit more ... after all it's just one line of text. So, what you want to do is to read every ebuild, if you want to find a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Patrick Lauer schrieb: On Saturday 14 June 2008 14:11:12 Bernd Steinhauser wrote: That's what metadata is there for. And ebuilds don't mind carrying a bit more ... after all it's just one line of text. So, what you want to do is to read every ebuild, if you want to find a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Patrick Lauer schrieb: On Saturday 14 June 2008 11:53:51 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: What's the need for a GLEP covering "live" ebuilds and what's wrong with - ebuilds? I made myself that question when GLEP54 was submitted and during the initial discussion. At that time, I wasn't convi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Luca Barbato schrieb: Santiago M. Mola wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ryan Hill wrote: I'm guessing the dev would need to change 0.26.live to 0.26.1.live when 0.26 was released. I already need to do this with my live ebuilds. Of course, with

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

2008-06-11 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Luca Barbato schrieb: Bernd Steinhauser wrote: Luca Barbato schrieb: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: The point is to make pkgcore a better package manager by getting the developers to do some basic testing. We're not talking some obscure, weird bug here. We're talking a really obvious, maj

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

2008-06-11 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Patrick Lauer schrieb: Bernd Steinhauser wrote: Luca Barbato schrieb: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: The point is to make pkgcore a better package manager by getting the developers to do some basic testing. We're not talking some obscure, weird bug here. We're talking a really obvious, maj

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

2008-06-11 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Luca Barbato schrieb: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: The point is to make pkgcore a better package manager by getting the developers to do some basic testing. We're not talking some obscure, weird bug here. We're talking a really obvious, major screwup that a couple of quick unit tests would catch strai

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-10 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Joe Peterson schrieb: Bernd Steinhauser wrote: And that is, what this is about, making EAPI bumps as less painful as possible. The filename is the easiest solution for that. In any design, there are "easy" short-cuts that can be taken. But sometimes these short-cuts break paradigm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-10 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Luca Barbato schrieb: Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: The simplest way is to change the syncpoint in the new package manager and leave the previous uri with a compatibility repo for the older ones. So we add a new repo each time a new EAPI comes out? Sounds like a big mess. It isn't you just keep

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55

2008-06-09 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Joe Peterson schrieb: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:49:08 -0600 Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, in general, if you rely on extensions changing every time a program cannot deal with a new feature of a file format, it would be quite crazy. For example, if C programs

Re: [gentoo-dev] What are blocks used for?

2008-04-16 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: What all are blocks used for? a) Marking that two unrelated packages are mutually incompatible at runtime because they happen to collide, for example on a commonly named executable. b) Marking that two related implementations are mutually incompatible at runtime because

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI clarifications to skel.ebuild EAPI usage

2008-03-14 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Petteri Räty schrieb: solar reported that he had ebuild submissions blindly using EAPI=1 so we hopefully made the text better reflect that it should not be used unless absolutely needed. Regards, Petteri # Eclasses will test for this variable if they need to use EAPI > 0 features. -# Ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Baselayout-2 progress?

2008-03-01 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Duncan schrieb: Bernd Steinhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:50:09 +0100: What about the timezone? Baselayout had a setting for the timezone in /etc/conf.d/clock. baselayout-2.0.0 + openrc doesn't seem to have that.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout-2 progress?

2008-03-01 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Roy Marples schrieb: On Friday 29 February 2008 16:15:51 Ed W wrote: On the other hand since there still isn't a masked ebuild in portage (and I seem some notes on my on Roy's site) then I have to assume that in fact we are still a good way away from calling it a replacement and starting to p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keyword request interface (SoC candidate?)

2008-02-29 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Santiago M. Mola schrieb: I splitted this from the SoC thread so the possible discussion doesn't add noise to the original thread. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:32 PM, joshua jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Google is once again doing the summer of code for students. I'm helping organize it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keyword amd64 -> x86_64

2008-02-28 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Fabian Groffen schrieb: Though, if for instance amd64-fbsd would be introduced, Will that happen? (Asking because I might be interested in testing such a setup.) I think this keyword should have something more generic arch instead, like the x64 we use in prefix now Wouldn't it be more cle

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-15 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Doug Klima schrieb: >> 2) ESVN_OFFLINE which disables svn up. > > Isn't this a bit of a hack? The point is for it to run svn up. Now > I've added support in a local refactor that I had started today that > if the working copy's revision matches the requested revision, that no > svn up is performed.

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-15 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Donnie Berkholz schrieb: > On 23:39 Fri 15 Feb , Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: >> For quite a while the KDE herd has had a modified version of >> subversion.eclass >> in the kde overlay. During that time we have added the following >> features to >> the eclass which we would like to put back in gentoo-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: scm eclasses/ebuilds and revision logging

2008-01-14 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Ryan Hill schrieb: > Bernd Steinhauser wrote: >> I'm aware of the fact, that the revision of the currently installed >> package is part of the environment and that is saved, but I'm not only >> interested in the revision of the currently installed version, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] scm eclasses/ebuilds and revision logging

2008-01-12 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Mike Frysinger schrieb: > On Friday 11 January 2008, Bernd Steinhauser wrote: >> this is sth. > > reading your e-mail drove me nuts as i cant figure out what "sth" means. > google says "Sonic The Hedgehog". not sure how this applies to Gentoo (he's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: scm eclasses/ebuilds and revision logging

2008-01-12 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Ryan Hill schrieb: > Bernd Steinhauser wrote: >> I'm aware of the fact, that the revision of the currently installed >> package is part of the environment and that is saved, but I'm not only >> interested in the revision of the currently installed version, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] scm eclasses/ebuilds and revision logging

2008-01-12 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Avuton Olrich schrieb: > On 1/11/08, Bernd Steinhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> this is sth. that has been brought up in the KDE4 forums thread and on >> irc. The thing is, that if you're using a live ebuild you might very >> likely r

[gentoo-dev] scm eclasses/ebuilds and revision logging

2008-01-11 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Hi, this is sth. that has been brought up in the KDE4 forums thread and on irc. The thing is, that if you're using a live ebuild you might very likely run into bugs, that have been introduced in a newer revision. Now when you get in touch with upstream about that bug it might be very useful if you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving use.desc

2008-01-03 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Hi, What about sth. like this: > fglrx - VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for fglrx video cards fglrx - Build AMD's proprietary video driver for r300-r600 video cards > nv - VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for nv video cards nv - Open source driver for Nvidia cards, only supports 2D (I don

[gentoo-dev] Old ebuilds in bugzilla

2007-12-26 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Hi, I was searching a bit through bugzilla for some ebuilds for programs, that are not yet in portage and I found, there are a lot of programs hanging in buzilla, because no one did take them for maintenance. Now some of them are quite old (no comments/activity for 2 years) and I tried some of th

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2007-12-26 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Gilles Dartiguelongue schrieb: >> - net-wireless/rt2x00 > I might need this one for work, but it's not set in stone yet so if > anybody has the hardware, please pick this one up. > rt2x00 will be introduced in kernel 2.6.24, so that package might be deprecated then. Bernd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]