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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: New build types

2008-03-18 Thread Jakub Moc
Steve Long napsal(a): How do others feel about such an addition? http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_a450013b143e01a25810f66ff345c9d4.xml -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Pri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-15 Thread Jakub Moc
s on such monster bug and watch the resulting huge bugspam landing in bug-wranglers and other people's mailboxes, it's extremely annoying, extremely messy and generally not a good way to things fixed. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subk

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of ebuild

2008-02-25 Thread Jakub Moc
art immediately to make it in time for 2008.0. Have a nice day. :P [1] http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/whitespace/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piet_(programming_language) [3] http://www.rapapaing.com/piet/ -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] have any developers subscribed to -project?

2007-07-20 Thread Jakub Moc
his irrelevant junk finally, it's totally off-topic here; if you want to complain that noone loves you, then go to your nanny, I'm not interested. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E P

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-19 Thread Jakub Moc
es. Wrt pidgin - seriously, what's the big issue here? Users can't use emerge -pv output and determine what they want, or? Will we bloat the profiles everytime someone forgets to enable a flag and goes complain upstream about a 'missing' feature? -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mail

Re: [gentoo-dev] alternative solution for 'procmail-impaired' folks

2007-07-16 Thread Jakub Moc
't we use current gentoo-announce list for seems to exist for this exact purpose? In that way, people who wish to participate in on-topic, off-topic or straight retarded debates would still have the choice to do so, while not forcing the majority of others to 'mark folder as read' eve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-16 Thread Jakub Moc
7;s throat. :X -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) signature.asc Description: O

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] qmail.eclass draft

2007-07-13 Thread Jakub Moc
ed is the eclass and a sample how to use it with netqmail. > > It seems like you aren't interested in communication with the > maintainer, otherwise you would've CC'ed me. Erm? This was completely uncalled for, I'd say?! -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROT

[gentoo-dev] net-mail/cyrus-imapd needs an active maintainer

2007-07-08 Thread Jakub Moc
This ebuild has a security bug open for almost one year (Bug 142817), plus lots of other bugs as well. If you are interested, please see http://tinyurl.com/32webs -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&se

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-gfx/bootsplash

2007-07-07 Thread Jakub Moc
k either. > There is a memory conflict between the X space and vesa. > I basically think that users (As advanced Gentoo user can be) cannot > have a workable environment in a reasonable effort... I know I have > failed. vesafb-tng works just perfectly fine here w/ nVidia/ATI/Intel. You are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nero-3.0.0.0 license needs RESTRICT="fetch" ?

2007-07-06 Thread Jakub Moc
Harald van Dijk napsal(a): > And what if they decide they don't accept the license on the first run? Then the software won't run, very easy. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nero-3.0.0.0 license needs RESTRICT="fetch" ?

2007-07-06 Thread Jakub Moc
Mike Frysinger napsal(a): > On Friday 06 July 2007, Jakub Moc wrote: >> Harald van Dijk napsal(a): >>> so eutils.eclass's check_license function should probably be used. >> Broken until Bug 17367 is implemented. > > the same exact thing could be said for ever

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nero-3.0.0.0 license needs RESTRICT="fetch" ?

2007-07-06 Thread Jakub Moc
Harald van Dijk napsal(a): > so eutils.eclass's check_license function should probably be used. Broken until Bug 17367 is implemented. It's enough that loads of games kill non-interactivity. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nero-3.0.0.0 license needs RESTRICT="fetch" ?

2007-07-06 Thread Jakub Moc
re' link. Could not find an appropriate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use as an embedded player. Click OK. Could not find an appropriate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use as an embedded player. Click OK. 426 Transfer aborted. Data connection closed. Stare on a b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-admin/nologin, app-office/facturalux, x11-themes/jimmac-xcursors

2007-07-02 Thread Jakub Moc
ctor ??? English only, please. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-dns/bind{,-tools} needs an active maintainer

2007-06-17 Thread Jakub Moc
ly... 8 bugs altogether, 2 enhancements, 2 stabilization, 1 LDAP-related, 2 DLZ related, 1 hardened. http://tinyurl.com/3cwhjv -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7

Re: [gentoo-dev] gnupg2 only vs gnupg-1 & gnupg-2

2007-05-27 Thread Jakub Moc
;s the horrible issue with porting those, beyond 'oh we don't care, use gnupg-1 because the legacy feeling is oh so great'? Shrug. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was -> Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-16 Thread Jakub Moc
Thilo Bangert napsal(a): >>> It isn't different. That's the problem. If you have two packages >>> with the same name, you have the same problem. >> On that note I would hope the vim/vi peeps would rename. >> app-vim/ant > > and app-vim/sudo and app-xemacs/emerge, g -- jakub signature.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: stabilizing expat 2.0.0

2007-05-16 Thread Jakub Moc
Steve Long napsal(a): > welp's been away ;) Oh well, the dreaded *buntu maintenance eats time, you know... *g* -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 93

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing expat 2.0.0

2007-05-15 Thread Jakub Moc
n the ebuild in the first place. It's been discussed with the original maintainer over and over again, and the conclusion was that it's not safe to have two versions of expat installed on the same system. So, why don't we just stick to that and be done with it? -- Best regards,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-15 Thread Jakub Moc
Ulrich Mueller napsal(a): > The Emacs team has converted the following virtual packages: > >virtual/emacs >virtual/flim > > to new-style (aka GLEP 37) virtuals. Oh, and naming the new-style virtuals the same as the real thing kills binpkgs. :/ -- Best regards,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-15 Thread Jakub Moc
May 2007). Leaving the old-style virtuals in place leaves the new style ones non-fuctional, so you'd better remove them right now. ;) -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key

Re: [gentoo-dev] trial software in portage?

2007-05-14 Thread Jakub Moc
Carsten Lohrke napsal(a): > On Montag, 14. Mai 2007, Jakub Moc wrote: >> Uhm, kindly leave app-arch/rar alone; that unrar-gpl thing is just a bad >> joke. > > There's app-arch/unrar, so this is no point. When unrar-gpl is so broken, why > it's in the tree?

Re: [gentoo-dev] trial software in portage?

2007-05-14 Thread Jakub Moc
Timothy Redaelli napsal(a): > /me votes for remove them (and app-cdr/nero) Uhm, kindly leave app-arch/rar alone; that unrar-gpl thing is just a bad joke. (No idea what does the rest of licenses belong to, would make sense to post ebuilds names instead.) -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mai

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-13 Thread Jakub Moc
om a crisp one. Once again, I don't want to use any software produced by such abusive moron, and other people should do the same - or they should help them themselves and compile the only original, trademarked Ion3 (C)(TM) manually. *annoyed* -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROT

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-12 Thread Jakub Moc
Peter Gordon napsal(a): > On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 00:41 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: >> Well, one could ask why we should provide ebuild for stuff that has >> apparently insane upstream, instead of just dropping such junk until the >> upstream guy realizes that the world doesn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-12 Thread Jakub Moc
done with that. If > users complain, ask them to talk to Tuomo Valkonen. > > Cheers, > -jkt > Well, one could ask why we should provide ebuild for stuff that has apparently insane upstream, instead of just dropping such junk until the upstream guy realizes that the world doesn't sp

[gentoo-dev] www-client/pybugz needs a maintainer

2007-05-12 Thread Jakub Moc
Nice utility, now unfortunately a bit orphaned and with lots of open bugs. If you are interested, see http://tinyurl.com/2mkd7s Thanks. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary

[gentoo-dev] mail-mta/courier needs a maintainer

2007-05-08 Thread Jakub Moc
The current ebuild is outdated and there's a couple of minor issues that are getting stale. If you are interested, see http://tinyurl.com/s8o6k Thanks. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 news item for review: Radiant upgrade

2007-05-06 Thread Jakub Moc
>> happy users read them from there. > > Also already been covered. Read the thread. Haven't noticed either, maybe you could point us to where has this been covered? -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 news item for review: Radiant upgrade

2007-05-06 Thread Jakub Moc
and "users like it" may be nice for one package overlay, and a genuine PITA for a tree with thousands of ebuilds at the same time. Repeating it doesn't go anywhere, nor will it make any of your point more valid. Thanks. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-06 Thread Jakub Moc
more useful entry than 'many bugfixes' or nothing at all in ChangeLog - which is not so rare at all, unfortunately :/ -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Jakub Moc
emails threads clearly suggests it's not the case ATM. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Jakub Moc
itical, so yeah, it's entirely irrelevant. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Jakub Moc
nstead How much more explanation about this 'critical' change do the users *need*? If they don't get the above, maybe paludis and Linux just isn't for them and they should stick to Windows. Meanwhile there's no need to establish a precedent of using critical news for PEBKA

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): > On Sat, 05 May 2007 22:19:27 +0200 > Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): >>> On Sat, 5 May 2007 22:00:27 +0200 >>> Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> Paludis users

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Jakub Moc
as a licenses file: ... Use of token '*' is deprecated, use '*/*' instead You seriously want to claim that paludis users can't read? Again; what exactly are you after here? (And drop the 'experience has shown', 'users want it', 'it's non-trivia

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Jakub Moc
s) read explicit runtime deprecation warnings. Because the above is clearly stupid - what are you really after here, may I ask? I guess amne is right here. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Jakub Moc
n postinst/CONFIG_PROTECT. > > And these changes can't be handled that way, since paludis configs can > and do exist in home directories as well as in /etc. Shrug; frankly just a matter of adding $HOME/.paludis/etc or whatever (example) to CONFIG_PROTECT... Why it couldn't be do

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): > On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:48:28 +0200 > Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> OK, I'm afraid that GLEP42 is missing the part that critical news >> reporting does not replace documentation. You seriously intend to use >> this feature f

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Jakub Moc
ce documentation. You seriously intend to use this feature for such stuff and force everyone to download this via rsync? -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): > On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:15:55 +0200 > Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> How does it matter exactly whether it's paludis users, gcc users, php >> users, apache users or whoever else who will use the news item? Let's >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): > On Sat, 05 May 2007 14:53:47 +0200 > Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> For what situation? Changing * to */* is a bunch of config files (as >> far as I've been told, paludis warns about this deprecated syntax >> anyway)? >&

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Jakub Moc
news reporting" feature for such trivialities, most users are going to ignore the noise pretty soon. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Jakub Moc
uld be fine. See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165629, http://marc.info/?l=gentoo-dev&m=116026024223024&w=2 etc. -- Jakub Moc Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Artwork

2007-04-29 Thread Jakub Moc
On 4/29/07, William L. Thomson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 11:28 +0200, Bjarke Istrup Pedersen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > It would be nice if there where some CD/DVD labels created, that people > could print and put on their LiveCDs/Insta

Re: [gentoo-dev] Planning for automatic assignment of bugs

2007-04-27 Thread Jakub Moc
't see what exactly are you expecting from this whole thing. Anyway, good luck. ;) -- Jakub Moc Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Artwork

2007-04-27 Thread Jakub Moc
The ones with the copyright problems? > I'm out of topic i think. Could you amplify, please? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158197 http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/msg_01213.xml http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_141498.xml -- Jakub Moc Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Jakub Moc
maintainers of such ebuilds to move them to 'as soon as possible'? And why's moving them ASAP exactly needed? -- Jakub Moc Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Jakub Moc
refrain from taking 'emergency' measures on issues where there's no emergency whatsoever. There's been a bug open for over two months and noone ever suggested that I'd be a case for urgent council decision. -- Jakub Moc Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: File collisions

2007-04-20 Thread Jakub Moc
s are often testing in chroots or test boxes with just the bare-bones system installed. -- Jakub Moc Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] FYI: Jakub suspended two weeks for bad behaviour

2007-04-17 Thread Jakub Moc
time. And I've said that if any maintainer has issues w/ re-assigning the keywording stuff to arches, they are welcome to contact me and we'll sort it out. (Oh, and not exactly my fault that you got angry because alpha has gone ahead of mips in the slacker stats on these re-assignments, which

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] FYI: Jakub suspended two weeks for bad behaviour

2007-04-17 Thread Jakub Moc
tly make future cooperation any easier imo. Maybe just read above? What kind of co-operation are you expecting wrt developers who have repeatedly shown that they can't plain be bothered with fixing their junk, because they are just way too cool to deal with some useless idiots, such as bug wran

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] FYI: Jakub suspended two weeks for bad behaviour

2007-04-17 Thread Jakub Moc
t to Gentoo as you've been so far. ;) [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38368 Best regards, -- Jakub Moc Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Resignation

2007-04-17 Thread Jakub Moc
On 4/17/07, Bryan Østergaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 06:01:46AM +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: > > Whoever is in charge, kindly change my bugzilla account to the email > address this mail is sent from and take care of the setting the > bugzilla privs ac

[gentoo-dev] Resignation

2007-04-16 Thread Jakub Moc
his mail. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't appreciate to be thanked in this context, and that's a good thing. So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish! [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82772 [2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143519 [3] http://cia.vc/stats/author/p

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-dialup/pppoed pending for removal

2007-04-15 Thread Jakub Moc
hap=3#doc_chap4 -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-14 Thread Jakub Moc
Jan Kundrát napsal(a): > Jakub Moc wrote: >> Even such change would piss off users. Having *no* way to turn off >> tests, uuuhhh please retire me *before* someone implements this, I'm not >> going to waste my time on totally pointless bugs filed by furious u

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-14 Thread Jakub Moc
turn them off in make.conf. Even such change would piss off users. Having *no* way to turn off tests, uuuhhh please retire me *before* someone implements this, I'm not going to waste my time on totally pointless bugs filed by furious users. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: 2007.0 release

2007-04-13 Thread Jakub Moc
Chris Gianelloni napsal(a): > On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 20:40 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: >> Thilo Bangert napsal(a): >>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156814 >> Yeah. It's restricted to developers only, though, so not much useful for >> users. :) > > Yea

[gentoo-dev] Re: 2007.0 release

2007-04-13 Thread Jakub Moc
Thilo Bangert napsal(a): > this seems to come up more often than you like. is this the release > tracker bug? > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156814 > > kind regards > Thilo Yeah. It's restricted to developers only, though, so not much useful for users. :) --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: April Council meeting summary

2007-04-13 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:20:46 +0200 > Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): >>> If someone can provide a good reason for changing to a system that's >>> more work, I'll change. If there isn'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: April Council meeting summary

2007-04-13 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): > If someone can provide a good reason for changing to a system that's > more work, I'll change. If there isn't a good reason, I won't. Maybe if you actually read the council log, you'd see the reason? yeah, it's indeed there, believe

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-13 Thread Jakub Moc
elopers is when something's broken > anyway, and that's far better than ending up with a broken install. Well of course it's the users who will see it, see above. It's not like that we would have 100 volunteers around to drop everything they have in their hands a go spend days on

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-13 Thread Jakub Moc
rs, because it's plain pointless. If the Makefiles suck, file bugs upstream instead of dumping the stuff on Gentoo users. People are already pretty much overloaded by the tons of various QA checks all over the place... -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-13 Thread Jakub Moc
uddenly bloat all of our src_install functions for no > gain at all ... sounds like a no brainer to me +1, this is a horrible idea that would just cause loads of bugs impossible to check for in advance, major work for lots of people and major bloat for no good reason. Bleh. :/ -- Best regards,

Re: [gentoo-dev] PMS renewed call for comments

2007-04-11 Thread Jakub Moc
hat bug list? All bugs: http://tinyurl.com/2q87ho Open bugs only: http://tinyurl.com/2tm9mw -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8

Re: [gentoo-dev] New ALSA maintainers

2007-03-28 Thread Jakub Moc
Bryan Østergaard napsal(a): > Nobody is forcing anybody to use in-kernel drivers. Uhm... http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172490 -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Prim

Re: [gentoo-dev] New ALSA maintainers

2007-03-28 Thread Jakub Moc
Daniel Drake napsal(a): > Jakub Moc wrote: >> - The in-kernel drivers seriously are not an equivalent alternative, let >> alone the preferred one, for stuff like hda-intel or any similar drivers >> that are under permanent heavy development, at least for now. > > If hda

Re: [gentoo-dev] New ALSA maintainers

2007-03-28 Thread Jakub Moc
7;d be very happy to see the whole 2.4 kernel branch declared as unsupported on Gentoo - noone's really testing anything against those kernels these days and the bugs are lingering there for ages as noone cares; even the 2.4 kernels we still have in the tree are pretty much unmaintained). --

Re: [gentoo-dev] New ALSA maintainers

2007-03-27 Thread Jakub Moc
are basically different branches, and it's *not* about whether the code is newer or older in one or the other at all. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D

Re: [gentoo-dev] {Guide,Project,Foo}XML too confusing for many devs?

2007-03-26 Thread Jakub Moc
[snip] Err, where the heck has gone the GuideXML editor project that was part of last SoC? (And yeah, I've heard from quite a couple of people that they are not touching any docs because the GuideXML thing is something they'd rather avoid like plague). -- Best regards, Jakub M

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Jakub Moc
#x27;s already pretty overdue. It's caused hundreds and hundreds of pointless bugs about 'missing' dependencies and it's still breaking users. I could care less about fox-1.2.6-r2, having this darned virtual unmasked breaks lots more things than fox. There's no need

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Suggestion: INVALID -> NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-24 Thread Jakub Moc
es for bugs that are still open as well, this implies that people either don't search at all or don't know how to search efficiently; so I'm not too enthusiastic that changing the default search would significantly reduce the number of dupes... ) [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID -> NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-24 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): > Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Oh, so resolving 'INVALID' a bug for people that report crap like 'oh, >> my sci-mathematics/*' thingy got horribly broken with -ffast-math' >> causes an offense to them? Well

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID -> NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-24 Thread Jakub Moc
horribly broken with -ffast-math' causes an offense to them? Well, that's a good thing, maybe they'll actually use their brain next time. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID -> NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-24 Thread Jakub Moc
Kevin F. Quinn napsal(a): [snip] See, I don't really care how the reporter feels, if something's not a bug, then it's not a bug. Don't invent confusing 'politically correct' junk for this just because someone might feel 'offended'. Thanks. -- Best regar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID -> NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-24 Thread Jakub Moc
VALID". NOCHANGE would indicate that whatever > the original issue, no change is needed on our part to resolve the > issue. > > Any reasons why this would be a bad idea? > NOCHANGE sucks... If you really insist on doing anything, then use NOTABUG. -- Best regards, Jakub

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Jakub Moc
Jeff Rollin napsal(a): > On 18/03/07, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It wouldn't become any more or less cluttered than ~/ now... > Which is why I was saying there was no point in a ~/.config directory... I guess you are missing the point? Fire up Midnight Comman

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Jakub Moc
RY cluttered! >> Nothing prevents from making appdirs in .config too. >> > True, but then .config would just become cluttered with .appdirs instead! It wouldn't become any more or less cluttered than ~/ now... -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signa

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC Package name additions

2007-03-17 Thread Jakub Moc
ded, just should be restricted to sane combos. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC Package name additions

2007-03-17 Thread Jakub Moc
hed release. So _alpha is the closest one to current netbeans 6.0 > life cycle phase, though not accurate. Actually stuff like cat/pkg-1.2_alpha3_pre4 is valid now and honored by portage; dunno how does that fit the netbeans upstream scheme, though. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: gentoo-dev vs lkml?

2007-03-15 Thread Jakub Moc
Stephen Becker napsal(a): > On 3/15/07, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yeah indeed, lets get the facts straight and let's see who did behave >> like an asshole: >> >> http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=110676&action=view > > Indeed b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: gentoo-dev vs lkml?

2007-03-15 Thread Jakub Moc
> > Sometimes people need to be bluntly told to stop screwing up. Indeed, so eroyf was told to stop screwing up, he just didn't get it (apparently neither did you, for that matter). And don't start this 'mips needs more babysitting' nonsense here again, please. -- Be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's problems

2007-03-15 Thread Jakub Moc
e promoting ricing on Sunrise project. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Something positive! (was Re: Client-serve flags (again ;))

2007-03-11 Thread Jakub Moc
flooding my mailbox with such junk, *NOW*. Move this gay debate to /dev/null or create yourself a gentoo-chat mailing list, but stop polluting a development ML with this noise already. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Little respect towards Daniel please

2007-03-05 Thread Jakub Moc
Bryan Østergaard napsal(a): > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:46:47AM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: >> And you come here to tell us that people shouldn't get confused by these >> 'very few' retirements, that the sun in still shining nicely and we are >> recruiting people a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Little respect towards Daniel please

2007-03-04 Thread Jakub Moc
cruiting people as always? And that you will continue silently watching the trolls team associated around mips and ciaranm call people fuckheads, idiots and making a gutter of something that's supposed to be a development mailing list? Ugh... well done. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EM

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-04 Thread Jakub Moc
] http://dev.gentoo.org/~chriswhite/docs/flame.html > Ciaranm never left, but was forced out by idiots Well done, nice insult of lots of people. Really helpful. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-04 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): > On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 00:08:40 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Erm, to be precise here, noone has removed any ciaranm's attributions >> from devmanual, they've all been moved to the end of the document >> originally,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-04 Thread Jakub Moc
And of course this was a great occasion to start screaming about license violation and demand bigger fonts on devmanual frontpage. [1] As said, grow up. [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150231#c5 -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subk

Re: [gentoo-dev] Little respect towards Daniel please

2007-03-04 Thread Jakub Moc
the 'valuable input' provided so kindly here by ciaranm, which is so valuable that it has cost us two developers in two days. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 Transition -- remaining packages

2007-02-22 Thread Jakub Moc
x the manifests. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] custom-cflags global USE

2007-02-21 Thread Jakub Moc
Danny van Dyk napsal(a): > What about making custom-cflags default in the base profile? Uhm? Maybe re-read the description of the flags? It's unsupported and breaks stuff, that's why the use flag exists... -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG sig

Re: [gentoo-dev] no binaries amarok-1.4.5 !

2007-02-18 Thread Jakub Moc
Mohammed Hagag napsal(a): > amarok-1.4.5 doesn't install any thing except the .po files when > emerging without the kde USE flag, is this normal ? No, it's not normal, and no, this is not a proper place. We have bugzilla for such things (see Bug 167536). -- Best regards, J

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Jakub Moc
version x.y.z stabilized first. Sorry, enough babysitting here, either devs can read or they shouldn't have commit access. Period. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprin

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): > On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:33:59 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | So, what are you blaming me for here? Grrr. > > Misassigning or premature filing, as you prefer. Oh sure... Next time, blame me for Sept 11, keep amusing us by your bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Jakub Moc
Alexander Færøy napsal(a): > Hi, > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 07:50:02PM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: >> Eh? Why should I stop filing bugs about stale vulnerable cruft? Should >> it stay in the tree forever (unless some $we_all_know_which_arch dev >> wakes up by miracle a

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Jakub Moc
you tell them to do that stuff gets broken > on a regular basis. Oh, there's nothing like attacking someone for someone else's fault. Won't waste my time on your trollish rants any more. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.

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