Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday 21 October 2005 05:56 am, Marius Mauch wrote: > >>Petteri Räty wrote: >> >>>Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. >>>Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask >>>file? This would make it possible for dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday 21 October 2005 05:56 am, Marius Mauch wrote: > >>Petteri Räty wrote: >> >>>Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. >>>Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask >>>file? This would make it possible for dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 21 October 2005 01:23 pm, Michiel de Bruijne wrote: > On Friday 21 October 2005 04:56, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:49 pm, Dan Meltzer wrote: > > > Why single out this one? ones system will not break irreperbly > > > without a cxx compiler, it'll just cause a

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 21 October 2005 05:56 am, Marius Mauch wrote: > Petteri Räty wrote: > > Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. > > Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask > > file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use flag

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 21 October 2005 02:44 am, Harald van Dijk wrote: > On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 10:56:57PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:49 pm, Dan Meltzer wrote: > > > Why single out this one? ones system will not break irreperbly > > > without a cxx compiler, it'll just cau

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Michiel de Bruijne
On Friday 21 October 2005 04:56, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:49 pm, Dan Meltzer wrote: > > Why single out this one? ones system will not break irreperbly > > without a cxx compiler, it'll just cause a another recompile to get it > > to work after breakage if the person i

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Daniel Ostrow
On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 17:49 +0300, Marius Mauch wrote: > Petteri Räty wrote: > > Marius Mauch wrote: > > > > Gentoo being about choice the new package.use should come before > > anything user set. I do not see any problem with this if it works in the > > same way as package.mask already works. Ple

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Marius Mauch
Petteri Räty wrote: Marius Mauch wrote: Gentoo being about choice the new package.use should come before anything user set. I do not see any problem with this if it works in the same way as package.mask already works. Please, enlighten me. Because package.use is implemented in a very different

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Marius Mauch wrote: > Petteri Räty wrote: > >> Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. >> Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask >> file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use flags by >> default in a way that would

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Marius Mauch
Petteri Räty wrote: Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use flags by default in a way that would not cruft the base profiles for eve

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 10:56:57PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:49 pm, Dan Meltzer wrote: > > Why single out this one? ones system will not break irreperbly > > without a cxx compiler, it'll just cause a another recompile to get it > > to work after breakage if the

RE: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Chris Lee
> Before anyone asks, ABKB is help-desk lingo for "A**hole > Behind Key Board". I > always preferred that to the id10t error (idiot). > See also: PEBKAC Thanks, Chris -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Dave Nebinger
On Thursday 20 October 2005 11:09 pm, Dave Nebinger wrote: > So basically if only 'experienced', yet misguided, folks are using '-*', > then the only bugs to come up from this would be ABKB bugs, leaving them > with egg on their face for messing with '-*' in the first place. Before anyone asks, AB

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Dave Nebinger
> there is nothing hard about USE="-* cxx" but while most here want to say > 'fuck > the users' (and i'm inclined to agree), i'd rather not field those > bugs/questions/etc... The average gentoo newbie is not going to know anything about "-*" in /etc/make.conf. Mostly it's folks that have been ar

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:49 pm, Dan Meltzer wrote: > On 10/20/05, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:34 pm, Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: > > > On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 22:26 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:19 pm, Dave Ne

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:47 pm, Alec Warner wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:03 pm, Alec Warner wrote: > >>Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>>On Thursday 20 October 2005 05:47 pm, Petteri Räty wrote: > Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Dan Meltzer
On 10/20/05, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:34 pm, Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 22:26 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:19 pm, Dave Nebinger wrote: > > > > >> > i still dont see how this addresses th

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Alec Warner
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:03 pm, Alec Warner wrote: > >>Mike Frysinger wrote: >> >>>On Thursday 20 October 2005 05:47 pm, Petteri Räty wrote: >>> Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. Why don't we have a package.use like we al

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:34 pm, Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: > On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 22:26 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:19 pm, Dave Nebinger wrote: > > > >> > i still dont see how this addresses the nocxx / USE=-* > > > >> > > > >> noFOO is used because "FOO"

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 22:26 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:19 pm, Dave Nebinger wrote: > > >> > i still dont see how this addresses the nocxx / USE=-* > > >> > > >> noFOO is used because "FOO" is on by default, and noFOO turns it off. > > >> AutoUSE is the same way, p

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:19 pm, Dave Nebinger wrote: > >> > i still dont see how this addresses the nocxx / USE=-* > >> > >> noFOO is used because "FOO" is on by default, and noFOO turns it off. > >> AutoUSE is the same way, package bar is included in the buildplan and to > >> have sane defau

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Dave Nebinger
>> > i still dont see how this addresses the nocxx / USE=-* >> >> noFOO is used because "FOO" is on by default, and noFOO turns it off. >> AutoUSE is the same way, package bar is included in the buildplan and to >> have sane defaults, certain flags are turned on. > > that was a great explanation ho

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:03 pm, Alec Warner wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 20 October 2005 05:47 pm, Petteri Räty wrote: > >>Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. > >>Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask > >>fil

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Alec Warner
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 20 October 2005 05:47 pm, Petteri Räty wrote: > >>Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. >>Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask >>file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use fla

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 October 2005 05:47 pm, Petteri Räty wrote: > Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. > Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask > file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use flags by > default in a way th

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Dan Armak wrote: > On Thursday 20 October 2005 23:47, Petteri Räty wrote: > >>Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. >>Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask >>file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use flags by >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Dan Armak
On Thursday 20 October 2005 23:47, Petteri Räty wrote: > Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. > Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask > file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use flags by > default in a way that

[gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use flags by default in a way that would not cruft the base profiles for every local use flag. Re