Chris Gianelloni schrieb:
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 18:54 +0200, Thomas Scharl wrote:
Anyways this is more of philosophical/social issue to discuss about than
a technical one.
One thing that I had been considering bringing up and getting help with
is some scripts/whatever to get users to do things
On Friday, 20. July 2007 23:48, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 18:54 +0200, Thomas Scharl wrote:
> > Anyways this is more of philosophical/social issue to discuss about
> > than a technical one.
>
> One thing that I had been considering bringing up and getting help
> with is some s
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 18:54 +0200, Thomas Scharl wrote:
> Anyways this is more of philosophical/social issue to discuss about than
> a technical one.
One thing that I had been considering bringing up and getting help with
is some scripts/whatever to get users to do things they might not know
they
Thomas Scharl wrote:
George Prowse schrieb:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:45:46 -0500
Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative
of the user base in general.
So if ten users reply then, are all te
George Prowse schrieb:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:45:46 -0500
Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative
of the user base in general.
So if ten users reply then, are all ten individually wrong t
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Roy Marples wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 23:11 +0100, George Prowse wrote:
>> Mike Doty wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> get this shit off the dev list and somewhere more appropriate.
>> I have a question for in here. Now this is (rightly) going to -project
Eric Polino wrote:
> Not sure if this fits in to what you're talking about, but I do know
> that as myself a "would like to me maintainer someday", I'm somewhat
> lost as to knowing how I can get involved and who I need to talk to.
>
Your best starting point is #gentoo-dev-help (if you need to tal
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 16:51 -0500, Dale wrote:
> Now the new deal is meeting the same resistance just like the proctors
> and I suspect it will fail too. Gentoo needs to listen to the people.
No.
Gentoo needs to make intelligent decisions, whether it comes from a
single individual or an army do
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 23:11 +0100, George Prowse wrote:
> Mike Doty wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > get this shit off the dev list and somewhere more appropriate.
>
> I have a question for in here. Now this is (rightly) going to -project,
> are any devs actually going to comment on the discussion?
Th
Mike Doty wrote:
[snip]
get this shit off the dev list and somewhere more appropriate.
I have a question for in here. Now this is (rightly) going to -project,
are any devs actually going to comment on the discussion?
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get this shit off the dev list and somewhere more appropriate.
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:22:19 +0100
George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Not my point. My point is that most Gentoo users would either not
see the question or not respond. Those that both see the question
and take time to respond are highly atypical.
If you were clever
George Prowse wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:45:46 -0500
>> Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative
of the user base in general.
>>> So if ten users reply then, are all ten in
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not technical, take it to -project.
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:22:19 +0100
George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Not my point. My point is that most Gentoo users would either not
> > see the question or not respond. Those that both see the question
> > and take time to respond are highly atypical.
>
> If you were clever enough an
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:45:46 -0500
Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative
of the user base in general.
So if ten users reply then, are all ten individually wrong too?
Not my point. My p
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 21:59 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> The set of people who respond is
> heavily skewed towards better-informed users who have time to seek out
> and participate in that kind of questioning.
Fair point, but the more better-informed users we have, the better it is
for everyon
On Thursday, 19. July 2007 22:39, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> > Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote:
> > > Associate an irc-channel with each package.
> Associate how? Sounds like a lot of work at the least and a lot of
> cruft at the worst.
It could be included in the herds.xml:
kde
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:45:46 -0500
Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative
> > of the user base in general.
>
> So if ten users reply then, are all ten individually wrong too?
Not my point. My point is that m
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 15:45 -0500, Dale wrote:
> I just decided to grow a pair today and speak up.
That right there is the most important thing you could have done. I hope
more users and devs decide to speak up about things.
Thanks,
Seemant
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:02:46 +0100
> George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> If you want to know how to get a better relationship with users...
>> ask them!
>>
>
> Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative
> of the user base in genera
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:02:46 +0100
George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you want to know how to get a better relationship with users...
ask them!
Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative
of the user base in general.
that is why the pro
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:36:34 +0100
Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote:
> > Perhaps we also need to make it more clear where users can ask such
> > Gentoo-specific questions about specific packages, so they don't
> > need to go and annoy upstream.
In #gentoo we *
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:02:46 +0100
George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you want to know how to get a better relationship with users...
> ask them!
Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative
of the user base in general.
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Steve Long wrote:
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote:
Perhaps we also need to make it more clear where users can ask such
Gentoo-specific questions about specific packages, so they don't need to
go and annoy upstream. Associate an irc-channel with each package. Most
packages have a herd associated wi
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote:
> Perhaps we also need to make it more clear where users can ask such
> Gentoo-specific questions about specific packages, so they don't need to
> go and annoy upstream. Associate an irc-channel with each package. Most
> packages have a herd associated with them which
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