Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-03-04 Thread Sergey Popov
28.02.2014 18:44, Samuli Suominen пишет: > > On 28/02/14 16:18, Tom Wijsman wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200 >> Samuli Suominen wrote: >> >>> It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an >>> ebuild, ... >> What is the intended goal? Can you give an example? > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-03-02 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2014.02.28 14:44, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 28/02/14 16:18, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200 > > Samuli Suominen wrote: > > > >> It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from > an > >> ebuild, ... > > What is the intended goal? Can you give an e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-03-01 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-03-01, o godz. 07:28:35 Samuli Suominen napisał(a): > > On 01/03/14 04:55, Joshua Kinard wrote: > > 3. Some profiles also override INSTALL_MASK, such as Gentoo/FreeBSD, because > > systemd does not apply there. > > Wow. I don't think we should allow this without first having exactly >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 03/01/2014 12:28 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 01/03/14 04:55, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> 3. Some profiles also override INSTALL_MASK, such as Gentoo/FreeBSD, because >> systemd does not apply there. > > Wow. I don't think we should allow this without first having exactly > what was suggested

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 01/03/14 04:55, Joshua Kinard wrote: > 3. Some profiles also override INSTALL_MASK, such as Gentoo/FreeBSD, because > systemd does not apply there. Wow. I don't think we should allow this without first having exactly what was suggested in this thread, a way of redefining the order away from IN

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 19:18 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 28/02/14 19:01, Lars Wendler wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 16:41:23 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: > > > >> On 28/02/14 16:41, Lars Wendler wrote: > >>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: > >>> > It would be v

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild? Reply-To:

2014-02-28 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 09:06:36PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > > The way that it's been presented throughout this thread made it seem > > like the network configurations when using e.g. networkd were being > > stored in there. > > So,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 02/28/2014 8:28 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an > ebuild, if user hasn't > set otherwise. > So it could be configured like USE_ORDER which is > "env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d" > So INSTALL_MASK_ORDER like "ebuild:${u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > The way that it's been presented throughout this thread made it seem > like the network configurations when using e.g. networkd were being > stored in there. So, with the new udev what I gather is: 1. Config settings (the stuff you're

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 19:32 -0600, William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 07:09:08PM -0600, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > > I'm not exactly a fan of systemd, though I know it has some uses, and > > I'm still curious as to why it installs/stores *configuration* data > > in /lib - if only from

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 07:09:08PM -0600, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > I'm not exactly a fan of systemd, though I know it has some uses, and > I'm still curious as to why it installs/stores *configuration* data > in /lib - if only from an upgrade point of view, we back up /etc, we > back up /home -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > Please keep in mind that not every device that runs Gentoo has the > ability to just pop new storage in with more space. The Beaglebone > Black has 2GB eMMC. Hence the reason I suggested that embedded systems are a perfect case where I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 10:31 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I think using INSTALL_MASK to kill a few inodes that probably don't > even have extents using a sledgehammer to kill a fly, and if you put > some holes in your walls in the process I_TOLD_YOU_SO. However, I > won't tell people they can't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-02-28, o godz. 15:28:30 Samuli Suominen napisał(a): > It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an > ebuild, if user hasn't > set otherwise. > So it could be configured like USE_ORDER which is > "env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d" > So INSTALL_MASK_ORDE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 28/02/14 19:01, Lars Wendler wrote: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 16:41:23 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> On 28/02/14 16:41, Lars Wendler wrote: >>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: >>> It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an ebuild, if

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 28/02/14 12:01 PM, Lars Wendler wrote: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 16:41:23 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: >> >> You should stop attacking people. Period. > > Once you stop trying to make things worse in Gentoo I will > consider stopping my attacks... s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Lars Wendler
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 16:41:23 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: > >On 28/02/14 16:41, Lars Wendler wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: >> >>> It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an >>> ebuild, if user hasn't >>> set otherwise. >>> So it could

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Ian Stakenvicius: > On 28/02/14 11:17 AM, Thomas D. wrote: >> Hi, > >> Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >>> That said, what we could do (if this isn't done already) is >>> have portage automatically elog or ewarn what files are >>> excluded from the system o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 28/02/14 11:17 AM, Thomas D. wrote: > Hi, > > Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> That said, what we could do (if this isn't done already) is have >> portage automatically elog or ewarn what files are excluded >> from the system on merge time due to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Thomas D.
Hi, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > That said, what we could do (if this isn't done already) is have > portage automatically elog or ewarn what files are excluded from > the system on merge time due to the INSTALL_MASK. At least that > way, users would be able to see in the log what files were removed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > I completely agree using INSTALL_MASK is 100% responsibility of the user > setting it, it's like blind 'rm -f', but some people > don't agree and keep attacking me. > I'm using the word attacking because it's constant, relentless, > repeati

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 28/02/14 17:24, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 02/28/2014 08:28 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an >> ebuild, if user hasn't >> set otherwise. >> So it could be configured like USE_ORDER which is >> "env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 02/28/2014 08:28 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an ebuild, if user hasn't set otherwise. So it could be configured like USE_ORDER which is "env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d" So INSTALL_MASK_ORDER like "ebuild:${user's own

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 28/02/14 09:59 AM, hasufell wrote: > Samuli Suominen: >> It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from >> an ebuild, if user hasn't set otherwise. So it could be >> configured like USE_ORDER which is >> "env:pkg:conf:defaults

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 28/02/14 16:59, hasufell wrote: > Samuli Suominen: > > It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from > > an ebuild, if user hasn't set otherwise. So it could be configured > > like USE_ORDER which is > > "env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d" So > > INSTALL_MASK_ORDER

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Samuli Suominen: > It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from > an ebuild, if user hasn't set otherwise. So it could be configured > like USE_ORDER which is > "env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d" So > INSTALL_MASK_ORD

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 28/02/14 16:18, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200 > Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an >> ebuild, ... > What is the intended goal? Can you give an example? - User has INSTALL_MASK="/lib/systemd" - Ebuild has IN

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 28/02/14 16:41, Lars Wendler wrote: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an >> ebuild, if user hasn't >> set otherwise. >> So it could be configured like USE_ORDER which is >> "env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkg

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Lars Wendler
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: >It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an >ebuild, if user hasn't >set otherwise. >So it could be configured like USE_ORDER which is >"env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d" >So INSTALL_MASK_ORDER like "ebu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: > It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an > ebuild, ... What is the intended goal? Can you give an example? Ebuilds can already clean out their own image during install; as for installing an INSTALL_MASK file,

[gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-02-28 Thread Samuli Suominen
It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an ebuild, if user hasn't set otherwise. So it could be configured like USE_ORDER which is "env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d" So INSTALL_MASK_ORDER like "ebuild:${user's own INSTALL_MASK}" This would be very helpful in pre