Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Jakub Moc
Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Thursday 07 September 2006 16:42, Simon Stelling wrote: >> "!> and kdelibs installed on a system at the same time. > > This is clear to me. My point was, if there's a specific need to allow to not > to break arch keywording this way. I'd find it more foolproof and consi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Carsten Lohrke
What have we learnt now, Jakub? Keep it in the bug report. ;) Carsten pgpxG13G6keIP.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:42:11 +0200 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Carsten Lohrke wrote: > > One question remains: Is it needed/correct that Portage doesn't > > take blockers for architecture breakages into account? Such a > > line/prefix is easily changed and when someone - whatever t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Simon Stelling
Jakub Moc wrote: > carlo, you might want to revert it properly, instead of reverting only > half of the previous commit you've been complaining about here. Could you please take such stuff where it belongs next time? (To the bug, that is.) There's really no need to point out such things on -dev, b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Jakub Moc
Simon Stelling wrote: > Carsten Lohrke wrote: >> One question remains: Is it needed/correct that Portage doesn't take >> blockers >> for architecture breakages into account? Such a line/prefix is easily >> changed >> and when someone - whatever the bad reason is - uses cvs commit, a real tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Simon Stelling
Carsten Lohrke wrote: > One question remains: Is it needed/correct that Portage doesn't take blockers > for architecture breakages into account? Such a line/prefix is easily changed > and when someone - whatever the bad reason is - uses cvs commit, a real tree > breakage is the cause. The behav

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Thursday 07 September 2006 13:48, Jakub Moc wrote: > I wonder how exactly genstef broke mips, 'cos mind you, he just reverted > to what the ebuild was doing before Bug 114161 was fixed by > hard-disabling of hspell [1]. Since mips doesn't have hspell keyworded, > it wasn't affected by that bug b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Thursday 07 September 2006 13:25, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > I'll try to overlook the reverted changes in kdelibs for bug fixes, the > improper ${ROOT} injected in my changes where it wasn't supposed to be, the > broken opengl on kdelibs checks that appeared last month, unhelpful > comme

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Jakub Moc
Stephen P. Becker wrote: > Brian Harring wrote: >> The proper forum for crap like this is via taking it up with QA/devrel. >> >> Screaming about a change on the ml doesn't accomplish anything more >> then making you look like a jack ass trying to publically embarass >> someone you're pissed at; at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Thursday 07 September 2006 11:11, Stuart Herbert wrote: > And I'm sure I'm not the only one who has a problem with your > comment in that bug either. Bugzilla isn't there for flaming other > devs. I did not do an ad hominem attack, but have a problem with a single action and listed my points.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 07 September 2006 04:09, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > How wonderful this sort of "maintenance" is you can read here: I'll try to overlook the reverted changes in kdelibs for bug fixes, the improper ${ROOT} injected in my changes where it wasn't supposed to be, the broken opengl on kdelibs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Brian Harring wrote: On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 10:37:21PM -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote: Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Sunday 03 September 2006 16:36, Stefan Schweizer wrote: I am not adding stuff. I am fixing existing packages. And I am taking responsibility. How wonderful this sort of "maintenanc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Simon Stelling
Alec Warner wrote: > If you can't work > it out, you talk to your project lead. If THEY can't work it out, you > talk to the ombudsman, and so forth. Everyone knows the policy and yet > no one follows it. I don't want to see this thread continue; you know > what you have to do.[1] > > [1] http:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 12:17:27PM +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 7. September 2006 11:11 schrieb Stuart Herbert: > > On 9/7/06, Carsten Lohrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How wonderful this sort of "maintenance" is you can read here: > > > > > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Donnerstag, 7. September 2006 11:11 schrieb Stuart Herbert: > On 9/7/06, Carsten Lohrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How wonderful this sort of "maintenance" is you can read here: > > > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146626 > > > > Am I the only one who has a problem with this? > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Stuart Herbert
On 9/7/06, Carsten Lohrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How wonderful this sort of "maintenance" is you can read here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146626 Am I the only one who has a problem with this? No. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who has a problem with your comment in that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-06 Thread Luca Barbato
Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Sunday 03 September 2006 16:36, Stefan Schweizer wrote: >> I am not adding stuff. I am fixing existing packages. And I am taking >> responsibility. > > How wonderful this sort of "maintenance" is you can read here: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146626 > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-06 Thread Alec Warner
Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Sunday 03 September 2006 16:36, Stefan Schweizer wrote: >> I am not adding stuff. I am fixing existing packages. And I am taking >> responsibility. > > How wonderful this sort of "maintenance" is you can read here: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146626 > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
lets try resending this since our shitty mail servers seemed to have eaten it On Sunday 03 September 2006 10:22, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > The maintainer must still be someone with a > > gentoo email. > > is that written down somewhere? I was under the impression that it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-06 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 10:37:21PM -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote: > Carsten Lohrke wrote: > >On Sunday 03 September 2006 16:36, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > >>I am not adding stuff. I am fixing existing packages. And I am taking > >>responsibility. > > > >How wonderful this sort of "maintenance" is y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-06 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Sunday 03 September 2006 16:36, Stefan Schweizer wrote: I am not adding stuff. I am fixing existing packages. And I am taking responsibility. How wonderful this sort of "maintenance" is you can read here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146626 Am I the only o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-06 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Sunday 03 September 2006 16:36, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > I am not adding stuff. I am fixing existing packages. And I am taking > responsibility. How wonderful this sort of "maintenance" is you can read here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146626 Am I the only one who has a problem w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-06 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:36:14 +0200 Stefan Schweizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> this does not allow the actual maintainer to close the bug and > >> causes a lot of bugspam for a person who does not care about it > >> and should be only contacted in the end to commit > >> fixes/patches/bumps. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-03 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:22:37 +0200 Stefan Schweizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > For this stuff, add a comment to the metadata.xml file. Don't do it > > in this less than obvious way. > > arch teams for example will still contact me then for stabilizing, I > do not want

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-03 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Paul de Vrieze wrote: > For this stuff, add a comment to the metadata.xml file. Don't do it in > this less than obvious way. arch teams for example will still contact me then for stabilizing, I do not want that. jeeves and herdstat do not support comments and the metadata is not often read direct

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-03 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Bryan Ãstergaard wrote: > Ok, let me see if I can get this straight.. You're saying that > maintainer-needed requires less communication overhead compared to > ebuilds with maintainers assigned? And that maintainer-needed is > therefore better than ebuilds having maintainers. agreed. I prefer to f

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-03 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > Then you should not have committed it - as a dev it is your > responsibility to test any ebuilds your commit. There's nothing > stopping you doing the normal checks on the ebuild, even if you can't > read Hebrew. For example you should verify whether the '-j1' is really >