Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: I have never once been able to grab a portage snapshot and build a stage 1, 2, 3 series from it without encountering at least a couple of problems with the tree. Ditto - the latest issue I've run into is: 443472. Probably

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=systemd

2012-12-08 Thread Michał Górny
A growing number of packages use USE=systemd in a semi-controlled way. Therefore, I suggest establishing a global flag described as: systemd - Enable use of systemd-specific libraries and services like socket activation or session tracking $ quse -D systemd

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=systemd

2012-12-08 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Does it really have to be useflag? Can't we simply just install the file every time like we do with everything else? Logrotate/normal initscripts/etc/etc. There should be no issue with that if we install the service files every time, they just take few kbs in /etc/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=systemd

2012-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com wrote: Does it really have to be useflag? Can't we simply just install the file every time like we do with everything else? Logrotate/normal initscripts/etc/etc. There should be no issue with that if we install the service

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=systemd

2012-12-08 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 14:53:02 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com wrote: Does it really have to be useflag? Can't we simply just install the file every time like we do with everything else? Logrotate/normal initscripts/etc/etc. There should be no issue with that if we install the

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-08 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/2012 06:50 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: I have never once been able to grab a portage snapshot and build a stage 1, 2, 3 series from it without encountering at least a

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-08 Thread Peter Stuge
Matt Turner wrote: I think we should consider things that break release media serious regressions. I think we should consider things that break anything serious regressions. Why should release media be more special than anything else? My email and bugzilla sweep a few days ago was during a

Re: Proxy maintainers in metadata.xml (was Re: [gentoo-dev] introduce a soft-limit policy for changing other developers ebuilds)

2012-12-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 18:51:36 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Bug-wranglers are supposed to do that by default. When you see a non-gentoo developer in metadata.xml, the default action is to assume his is the real maintainer and the bugs should be assigned to him. Such guidance

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs due lavajoe retirement

2012-12-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 21:41:35 -0500 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: Look, if you want to make a policy about the stuff, then make a policy, get council approval, and write it down. Don't make up silly half-solutions.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-08 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:44:31AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: On 11/30/2012 06:46 AM, Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Nov 29, 2012 10:24 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: We could slightly simplify the handbook installation procedure if we told people to use emerge-webrsync to

[gentoo-dev] Handbook updates Was: Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-08 Thread Duncan
Sven Vermeulen posted on Sat, 08 Dec 2012 20:41:42 + as excerpted: On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:44:31AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: On 11/30/2012 06:46 AM, Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Nov 29, 2012 10:24 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: We could slightly simplify the handbook

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sven Vermeulen sw...@gentoo.org wrote: Second, the Portage tree snapshots are now installed through emerge-webrsync (which means the entire section on downloading the tarballs, checking integrity, extracting is now a single paragraph). Uh, does emerge-webrsync

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-08 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 08:55:04PM -0800, Pawe?? Hajdan, Jr. wrote The serious problem here is that we need *new* users. A non-working install CD is a really bad thing here, don't you think? ;-) While we're at it, can we please also make a USB-key install ISO? I'm not asking merely because

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-08 Thread Fernando Reyes
iirc the minimal install CD ISO is capable of booting from a USB device or any removable media by just running the following commands. # isohybrid image.ISO # did if=image.ISO of=/dev/sdb bs=8192k sdb being your removable device. Also keep in mind that any data on sdb will be wiped after

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-08 Thread Peter Stuge
Fernando Reyes wrote: iirc the minimal install CD ISO is capable of booting from a USB device or any removable media by just running the following commands. # isohybrid image.ISO Please send a patch to the gentoo-catalyst@ list which adds this as an optional step in the catalyst livecd2

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-08 Thread Fernando Reyes
The problem with the isohybrid approach is that it doesn't support UEFI booting and this is why I wouldn't recommended as a feature in catalyst. However, this should be documented somewhere so that users know its possible without having to follow the liveusb guide which is probably outdated by