On 7/21/14, 6:02 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
Why not generate a Portage QA warning out from the warning
-Wformat-security produces instead?
That way compile wouldn't abort needlessly.
+1, and then it can be done globally.
Paweł
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Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote:
Removals:
net-misc/curl 2014-07-15 09:29:56 blueness
Is this a joke? Isn't curl as basic package as wget?
Diamond wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:25:02 +
Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote:
Removals:
net-misc/curl2014-07-15 09:29:56 blueness
Is this a joke? Isn't curl as basic package as wget?
Look under additions. It's there.
Dale
:-) :-)
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:12:17 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org
wrote:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Lars Wendler
polynomia...@gentoo.org wrote:
Hi guys,
I just add e2fsprogs{,-libs}-1.42.11
Is there some reason that we continue
Any -Werror=* flag will make random autoconf checks fail for no good
reason, don't use them on profiles, it's silly.
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
On 20 July 2014 20:28, Agostino Sarubbo a...@gentoo.org wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to enable
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:35:45 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Diamond wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:25:02 +
Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote:
Removals:
net-misc/curl 2014-07-15 09:29:56
blueness
Is this a joke? Isn't curl as basic package as wget?
On 21/07/14 12:30, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:35:45 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Diamond wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:25:02 +
Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote:
Removals:
net-misc/curl 2014-07-15 09:29:56
blueness
Is this a joke?
On 07/21/14 05:30, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:35:45 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Diamond wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:25:02 +
Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote:
Removals:
net-misc/curl 2014-07-15 09:29:56
blueness
Is this a joke?
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:23:46 +0900
Thomas Kahle to...@gentoo.org wrote:
the OCR software tesseract has many different plugins for
language packs used for OCR for different languages. The ebuild
uses the LINGUAS variable to pass the choice of which packages to
install to the user.
Every
On 21/07/14 21:03, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:23:46 +0900
Thomas Kahle to...@gentoo.org wrote:
the OCR software tesseract has many different plugins for
language packs used for OCR for different languages. The ebuild
uses the LINGUAS variable to pass the choice of which
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 21:26:09 +0900
Thomas Kahle to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Since you deleted it
sorry
, let me ask my question again: If I follow
this method I will have 37 dependencies all of this form. This
is pointless because
a) Everytime tesseract gains or loses a language support (it
Dnia 2014-07-21, o godz. 13:23:46
Thomas Kahle to...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
the OCR software tesseract has many different plugins for
language packs used for OCR for different languages. The ebuild
uses the LINGUAS variable to pass the choice of which packages to
install to the user.
A
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 07:01:00 -0400
Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org wrote:
Yes, accidentally removed curl and then re-added it.
You refreshed curl!
jer
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:32:10 +0400
Diamond diam...@hi-net.ru wrote:
Is this a joke? Isn't curl as basic package as wget?
In Gentooland, curl is actually secondary to wget, but probably
tertiary to none. :)
jer
On Monday 21 July 2014 10:08:44 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
Any -Werror=* flag will make random autoconf checks fail
for no good
reason, don't use them on profiles, it's silly.
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
I don't see where I asked about
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On 21/07/14 11:07 AM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
On Monday 21 July 2014 10:08:44 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
Any -Werror=* flag will make random autoconf checks fail for no
good
reason, don't use them on profiles, it's silly.
Diego Elio
On Monday 21 July 2014 08:52:51 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
On 7/21/14, 6:02 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
Why not generate a Portage QA warning out from the warning
-Wformat-security produces instead?
That way compile wouldn't abort needlessly.
+1, and then it can be done globally.
Paweł
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 17:07:24 +0200
Agostino Sarubbo a...@gentoo.org wrote:
I don't see where I asked about -Werror instead of only -
Wformat.
It's been enabled in stable GCC for four years and in unstable and the
hardened profiles for much longer so asking about setting it in any
profiles
media-gfx/splashutils fails to build, and it fails everytime one of it's
reverse dependency changes dependencies because it fails to use
pkg-config to query Libs:
it's supposed to have proxy-maint, but nobody is pushing fixes for the
supposed proxy-maint
it's in no shape to be in tree as-is,
On 21/07/14 18:11, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
On 21/07/14 11:07 AM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
On Monday 21 July 2014 10:08:44 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
Any -Werror=* flag will make random autoconf checks fail for no
good
reason, don't use them on profiles, it's silly.
Diego Elio
Besides, people should migrate to something with active upstream, like
plymouth
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:55:25 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
But only -Wformat=2 has -Wformat-security. Do we enable -Wformat with
1 or 2?
The gcc info pages say:
`-Wformat'
[...]
In Gentoo, this option is enabled by default for [...]
`-Wformat-security'
[...]
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Hi everyone,
currently there is no default link, when the website of a package
becomes unavailable or never existed at all.
I've created a wikipage, which can be used instead of filling HOMEPAGE
with www.gentoo.org or non-valid urls like none.
El lun, 21-07-2014 a las 17:22 +0200, Jeroen Roovers escribió:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 17:07:24 +0200
Agostino Sarubbo a...@gentoo.org wrote:
I don't see where I asked about -Werror instead of only -
Wformat.
It's been enabled in stable GCC for four years and in unstable and the
hardened
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:22:22 +0200
Manuel Rüger mr...@gentoo.org wrote:
Please check your packages and update them to this link:
HOMEPAGE=https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/No_homepage;
In the same effort we could give all the Gentoo-specific packages
which now have that homepage URI a more specific
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:22:22 +0200
Manuel Rüger mr...@gentoo.org wrote:
currently there is no default link, when the website of a package
becomes unavailable or never existed at all.
What's wrong with HOMEPAGE=() ?
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On 21/07/14 11:52 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
media-gfx/splashutils fails to build, and it fails everytime one of
it's reverse dependency changes dependencies because it fails to
use pkg-config to query Libs:
it's supposed to have proxy-maint,
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm not against dropping splashutils, but is there an alternative to
creating or managing framebuffer-splash in the tree? fbsplash doesn't
seem to be there (tho i don't know if that's the same upstream package
or not)
afaiu dynamic deps are broken and not defined in PMS
still... people seem to fix deps without revbumping, causing users who
either don't use dynamic deps (it's optional for portage through
--dynamic-deps=y, although it's on by default) or who use a different PM
to not get the fix, at worst
On 21/07/14 22:37, hasufell wrote:
afaiu dynamic deps are broken and not defined in PMS
still... people seem to fix deps without revbumping, causing users who
either don't use dynamic deps (it's optional for portage through
--dynamic-deps=y, although it's on by default) or who use a
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:42:23 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
people are revbumping packages for the simplest things like EAPI4-5
EAPI changing to 5 should always get a revbump, since it causes
confusion if anyone has a USE dependency upon your package.
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Am Montag, 21. Juli 2014, 21:37:17 schrieb hasufell:
afaiu dynamic deps are broken and not defined in PMS
still... people seem to fix deps without revbumping, causing users who
either don't use dynamic deps (it's optional for portage through
--dynamic-deps=y, although it's on by default) or
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 21:53:04 +0200
Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Revision must be bumped when the on-disk files installed by the
ebuild are changed.
Nothing about dependencies.
This has been policy for a LONG time, and we're not going to change
it overnight just because
On 21/07/14 22:50, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:42:23 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
people are revbumping packages for the simplest things like EAPI4-5
EAPI changing to 5 should always get a revbump, since it causes
confusion if anyone has a USE
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On 21/07/14 22:50, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:42:23 +0300 Samuli Suominen
ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
people are revbumping packages for the simplest things like
EAPI4-5
EAPI
On 21/07/14 23:13, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
On 21/07/14 04:06 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 21/07/14 22:50, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:42:23 +0300 Samuli Suominen
ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
people are revbumping packages for the simplest things like
EAPI4-5
EAPI
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:06:22 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 21/07/14 22:50, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:42:23 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
people are revbumping packages for the simplest things like
EAPI4-5
EAPI changing to 5
Samuli Suominen:
So, -1, useless rebuilds is one of the biggest problems lately
I am not sure if that is a joke.
We have:
* a broken PM which does incomplete dep calculation, gives wrong
suggestions to the user, has totally useless error/debug output,
randomly fails to remove files, allows to
2014-07-21 23:29 GMT+04:00 Maxim Kammerer m...@dee.su:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm not against dropping splashutils, but is there an alternative to
creating or managing framebuffer-splash in the tree? fbsplash doesn't
seem to be there (tho
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On 21/07/14 04:28 PM, hasufell wrote:
Reality check, please. (btw... I didn't come up with the subslot
idea, so maybe check with those guys about useless rebuilds)
Removing dynamic deps is an easy way to improve the strictness of
portage,
Dnia 2014-07-21, o godz. 20:28:24
hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
* a broken PM which does incomplete dep calculation, gives wrong
suggestions to the user, has totally useless error/debug output,
randomly fails to remove files, allows to break your system in numerous
ways and
Dnia 2014-07-21, o godz. 21:53:04
Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
Am Montag, 21. Juli 2014, 21:37:17 schrieb hasufell:
afaiu dynamic deps are broken and not defined in PMS
still... people seem to fix deps without revbumping, causing users who
either don't use dynamic
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:28:24 +
hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
We have:
* a broken PM which does incomplete dep calculation, gives wrong
suggestions to the user, has totally useless error/debug output,
randomly fails to remove files, allows to break your system in
numerous ways and
El lun, 21-07-2014 a las 20:55 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 21:53:04 +0200
Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Revision must be bumped when the on-disk files installed by the
ebuild are changed.
Nothing about dependencies.
This has been policy for a
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:01:58 +0200
Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote:
So you suggest we work around a bug in the PM which would be a single
fix. Everywhere.
Dynamic dependencies is not fixable. It's an irredeemably broken
concept.
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:06:08 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:01:58 +0200
Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote:
So you suggest we work around a bug in the PM which would be a
single fix. Everywhere.
Dynamic dependencies is not fixable.
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:06:07 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Maybe this could be solved by having two kinds of revisions:
- One would rebuild all as usually (for example, -r1...)
- The other one would only regenerate VDB and wouldn't change the
installed files (for example, -r1.1)
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:13:06 +0200
Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:06:08 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:01:58 +0200
Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote:
So you suggest we work around a bug in the PM which
On 21/07/14 23:56, Michał Górny wrote:
Now... whether dynamic deps are technically the right thing to do is another
question. It merits discussion, but we need to be really sure about the
consequences of any change.
Yes, it does. I'm not sure if it leads anywhere, though. Dynamic deps
are
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:15:41 +0200
Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:06:07 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Maybe this could be solved by having two kinds of revisions:
- One would rebuild all as usually (for example, -r1...)
- The other one would only
Dnia 2014-07-22, o godz. 00:13:13
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On 21/07/14 23:56, Michał Górny wrote:
Now... whether dynamic deps are technically the right thing to do is
another
question. It merits discussion, but we need to be really sure about the
consequences
Dnia 2014-07-21, o godz. 22:21:42
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com napisał(a):
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:15:41 +0200
Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:06:07 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Maybe this could be solved by having two kinds of
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:25 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
The funny thing is, almost none of the Gentoo developers even know that
slot operators disable dynamic dependencies completely in portage.
So *that's* why I now have to change RDEPENDs in both the source
ebuild and in VDB
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Friends,
Michał has documented the shortcomings of dynamic deps in our wiki[0].
(Thank you!) This documentation also includes two of our possible
solutions.
1. Improve dynamic-deps. This is, as Michał pointed out earlier in
this thread a pipe
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+1. Nice idea Manuel!
On 21/07/14 19:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
What's wrong with HOMEPAGE=() ?
It is not very informative.
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berna...@gentoo.org
https://secure.plaimi.net/~alexander
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I'm picking a random msg to reply to.
My concern about doing a revbump just because the deps change is that
the new revision has to be committed in ~arch, so we then have to hit
the arch teams, which we know are overworked anyway, with stable
requests just because we changed the dependencies.
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Alexander Berntsen berna...@gentoo.org
wrote:
On 21/07/14 19:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
What's wrong with HOMEPAGE=() ?
It is not very informative.
The wiki page is equivalently informative. What's the point of metadata
that just says there's no metadata?
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On 07/22/2014 01:20 AM, Gordon Pettey wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Alexander Berntsen
berna...@gentoo.org mailto:berna...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 21/07/14 19:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
What's wrong with HOMEPAGE=() ?
It is not very
William Hubbs:
I'm picking a random msg to reply to.
My concern about doing a revbump just because the deps change is that
the new revision has to be committed in ~arch, so we then have to hit
the arch teams, which we know are overworked anyway, with stable
requests just because we changed
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On 07/21/2014 06:52 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
I'm picking a random msg to reply to.
My concern about doing a revbump just because the deps change is that
the new revision has to be committed in ~arch, so we then have to hit
the arch teams, which
Hi,
On 21/07/14 21:42, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2014-07-21, o godz. 13:23:46
Thomas Kahle to...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
the OCR software tesseract has many different plugins for
language packs used for OCR for different languages. The ebuild
uses the LINGUAS variable to pass the choice of
On Mon, 2014-07-21 at 22:56 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
Yes, it does. I'm not sure if it leads anywhere, though. Dynamic deps
are a pipe dream. You can't implement them properly, so we're using
half-working implementation as an excuse to be lazy.
Why not adapt the updates mechanism for
On 21/07/14 12:23 AM, Thomas Kahle wrote:
Hi,
the OCR software tesseract has many different plugins for
language packs used for OCR for different languages. The ebuild
uses the LINGUAS variable to pass the choice of which packages to
install to the user.
A reverse dependency is
On 22/07/14 04:05, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote:
And just for fun, since no one has mentioned it yet, dynamic deps don't
work at all on binpkgs since the Packages file contains the deps (like
vardb) and it doesn't get updated (just like vardb).
Known long standing pitfall. It's managable.
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