Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-04-04 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Saturday, April 2, 2016 8:01:39 PM CEST, William Hubbs wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2016 at 12:35:58PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 09:36:56PM +0200, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Friday, April 1, 2016 8:33:02 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: ... No, it wouldn't. We made a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-04-02 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Apr 02, 2016 at 12:35:58PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 09:36:56PM +0200, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > On Friday, April 1, 2016 8:33:02 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On 01 Apr 2016 20:00, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > >> On Friday, April 1, 2016 3:58:18 AM CEST,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-04-02 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 09:36:56PM +0200, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Friday, April 1, 2016 8:33:02 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On 01 Apr 2016 20:00, Alexis Ballier wrote: > >> On Friday, April 1, 2016 3:58:18 AM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > ... > >>> "being supported" != "enabled by

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-04-01 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Friday, April 1, 2016 8:33:02 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: On 01 Apr 2016 20:00, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Friday, April 1, 2016 3:58:18 AM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: ... "being supported" != "enabled by default". so no, i still don't see any requirement in anything you've cited that

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-04-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 01 Apr 2016 20:00, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Friday, April 1, 2016 3:58:18 AM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>> ... > >> lemme look it up for you then: > >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Council_decisions > >> > >> systems with separate /usr should be supported. However, users > >> shouldn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-04-01 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Friday, April 1, 2016 3:58:18 AM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: ... lemme look it up for you then: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Council_decisions systems with separate /usr should be supported. However, users shouldn't be constrained from using software which doesn't support that. -- 04/2012

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-03-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 31 Mar 2016 21:09, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Thursday, March 31, 2016 8:19:52 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On 31 Mar 2016 19:00, Alexis Ballier wrote: > >> On Thursday, March 31, 2016 6:07:28 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>> On 31 Mar 2016 16:05, Alexis Ballier wrote: ... > >> > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-03-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 31 Mar 2016 21:13, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Thursday, March 31, 2016 8:20:45 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On 31 Mar 2016 19:03, Alexis Ballier wrote: > >> On Thursday, March 31, 2016 6:08:52 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>> On 31 Mar 2016 10:12, Mike Gilbert wrote: ... > >> > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-03-31 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Thursday, March 31, 2016 8:20:45 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: On 31 Mar 2016 19:03, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Thursday, March 31, 2016 6:08:52 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: On 31 Mar 2016 10:12, Mike Gilbert wrote: ... unless you symlink /bin to /usr/bin, moving binaries around has

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-03-31 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Thursday, March 31, 2016 8:19:52 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: On 31 Mar 2016 19:00, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Thursday, March 31, 2016 6:07:28 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: On 31 Mar 2016 16:05, Alexis Ballier wrote: ... i dont think anybody expects you to post tree-wide conversion

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-03-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 31 Mar 2016 19:03, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Thursday, March 31, 2016 6:08:52 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On 31 Mar 2016 10:12, Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Mike Frysinger > >> wrote: ... > > > > i think we can scope it currently for

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-03-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 31 Mar 2016 19:00, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Thursday, March 31, 2016 6:07:28 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On 31 Mar 2016 16:05, Alexis Ballier wrote: > >> On Thursday, March 31, 2016 1:58:19 AM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>> All ebuilds that call gen_usr_ldscript today will migrate

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-03-31 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Thursday, March 31, 2016 6:08:52 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: On 31 Mar 2016 10:12, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: ... i think we can scope it currently for libs (and any data files they need), but i don't see it being a bad

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-03-31 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Thursday, March 31, 2016 6:07:28 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: On 31 Mar 2016 16:05, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Thursday, March 31, 2016 1:58:19 AM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: All ebuilds that call gen_usr_ldscript today will migrate to this and will allow people to move away from installing

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-03-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 31 Mar 2016 10:12, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > To make forward progress on bug 417451, introduce a new sep-usr eclass > > that will hold all logic related to having a separate /usr. For now, > > this is just the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-03-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 31 Mar 2016 16:05, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Thursday, March 31, 2016 1:58:19 AM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > All ebuilds that call gen_usr_ldscript today will migrate to this and > > will allow people to move away from installing things into /. For the > > systems that want to have a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-03-31 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > To make forward progress on bug 417451, introduce a new sep-usr eclass > that will hold all logic related to having a separate /usr. For now, > this is just the gen_usr_ldscript function and a new USE=sep-usr flag.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-03-31 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Thursday, March 31, 2016 1:58:19 AM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: To make forward progress on bug 417451, introduce a new sep-usr eclass that will hold all logic related to having a separate /usr. For now, this is just the gen_usr_ldscript function and a new USE=sep-usr flag. Good idea,

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-03-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
To make forward progress on bug 417451, introduce a new sep-usr eclass that will hold all logic related to having a separate /usr. For now, this is just the gen_usr_ldscript function and a new USE=sep-usr flag. All ebuilds that call gen_usr_ldscript today will migrate to this and will allow