On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Frank Schafer wrote:
> May be it is an advantage that runscript (by the way, minicom
> installs /sbin/runscript too) takes care of all the variables set up
> (these I never found). So, for instance, if I start my postgresql as
> root the processes started are running under the
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 09:43 -0700, Kiawud wrote:
> I'm not even going to claim any expertise in this area. However, off
> the top of my head, I can see the following advantages to how Gentoo
> does the runlevel:
>
> 1) By adding 'softlevel' information to the grub settings, you can
> switch betwe
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 07:59 -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:
> On Monday 28 March 2005 06:11 am, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > Here is another basic gentoo newbie question - what is the logic
> > behind the way runlevels work in gentoo??
> >
>
> ---snip---
>
> By now you've found the docs at gentoo.org... S
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> If you want big things to get annoyed with, that is what Windows is for...
Hehe - I generally don't *do* Windoze so I guess I have smaller things to
get annoyed about now :-)
> Oh Definately. And it was dissatisfaction with RPM that was one of the
> inc
> Funny - I never used the "complicated" management tools - just adding and
> removing symbolic links was enough for me - for example, I started using
> chkconfig from RH7 but now I find rc-update is much simpler than anything
> else.
They weren't associated with runlevel management. They were use
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 03:39:22PM -0500, Dave Nebinger wrote:
> > For instance you refer to /sbin/rc as the way to change from
> > one runlevel to another, yet 'man rc' shows nothing. Whereas
> > a 'man telinit' on gentoo does give a description of a program
> > claiming to be the correct way to c
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> Oh yes, I certainly agree that the design of the System V runlevel
> architecture is far superiour to the BSD approach. I used BSD and
> SVR4 side by side for years, and am happy to admit that each
> had its good and bad points.
>
> For instance I always
Oh yes, I certainly agree that the design of the System V runlevel
architecture is far superiour to the BSD approach. I used BSD and
SVR4 side by side for years, and am happy to admit that each
had its good and bad points.
For instance I always disliked the way SVR4 had all these over
complicated
> For instance you refer to /sbin/rc as the way to change from
> one runlevel to another, yet 'man rc' shows nothing. Whereas
> a 'man telinit' on gentoo does give a description of a program
> claiming to be the correct way to change runlevel...
Documentation (and man pages in general) are typical
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> Maybe it is just me, but I think it seems a bit of a confusing muddle..
I think that's to be expected - as you point out noone else uses a
symbolic naming scheme so some of the usual Linux tools are not "aware" of
it. (But that's always the case when tra
At the risk of repeating myself, I don't really mind if it is
numeric or text - so long as it is consistent and functional...
For instance you refer to /sbin/rc as the way to change from
one runlevel to another, yet 'man rc' shows nothing. Whereas
a 'man telinit' on gentoo does give a description
> > Oh, I agree that being able to nominate a runlevel at boot time is
> > a good thing. But I think it would be more consistent to do it
> > by specifying it the same way that it is specified in inittab or
> > to telinit, and the same way it is reported by 'who -r'
> >
> > That is, they should
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:03:34 +0100, Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh, I agree that being able to nominate a runlevel at boot time is
> a good thing. But I think it would be more consistent to do it
> by specifying it the same way that it is specified in inittab or
> to telinit, and the
> > Obviously I need to get a bit more used to where to find documentation
> > on gentoo. I am used to being able to use 'man -k' to find most system
> > documentation on BSD, with the addition of 'texinfo' and 'locate' since
> > experimenting with linux...
>
> Web browser meet Digby. Digby meet w
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Jerry McBride wrote:
> While many tout the current runlevel scheme as one of the strengths of gentoo.
> I on the other hand point out that this is one of gentoo's weaknesses.
> Breaking away from a more traditional sysv runlevel logic, relying instead on
> dependencies IN the
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> Obviously I need to get a bit more used to where to find documentation
> on gentoo. I am used to being able to use 'man -k' to find most system
> documentation on BSD, with the addition of 'texinfo' and 'locate' since
> experimenting with linux...
Web br
> And I don't think just running all the scripts is enough to change
> runlevels. Normally you have to work out the difference between the
> old runlevel and the new, shutdown the things in the old runlevel
> that weren't in the new, and only start the things in the new
> runlevel that weren't in t
Oh, I agree that being able to nominate a runlevel at boot time is
a good thing. But I think it would be more consistent to do it
by specifying it the same way that it is specified in inittab or
to telinit, and the same way it is reported by 'who -r'
That is, they should all use numeric runlev
I'm not even going to claim any expertise in this area. However, off
the top of my head, I can see the following advantages to how Gentoo
does the runlevel:
1) By adding 'softlevel' information to the grub settings, you can
switch between runlevels at boot time instead of having to login,
change
I can sympathise to an extent with your sentiments.
SuSE Linux also embeds dependency information into their init scripts.
For instance the script for xdm contains:
### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides: xdm
# Required-Start:$remote_fs $syslog ypbind
# Required-Stop:
# Default
Great! Thanks Nick. That is just the sort of information I was looking
for.
Obviously I need to get a bit more used to where to find documentation
on gentoo. I am used to being able to use 'man -k' to find most system
documentation on BSD, with the addition of 'texinfo' and 'locate' since
experime
On Monday 28 March 2005 06:11 am, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> Here is another basic gentoo newbie question - what is the logic
> behind the way runlevels work in gentoo??
>
---snip---
By now you've found the docs at gentoo.org... So I'll just be offering my
opinion to this thread.
(...one second whil
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2004.3/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=4
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 12:11 +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> Here is another basic gentoo newbie question - what is the logic
> behind the way runlevels work in gentoo??
> Thanks,
> DigbyT
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