[gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs

2005-11-16 Thread Daevid Vincent
I've been running 2.6.10 for some time. Then I started reading some stuff that I should update my Dell Inspiron 8200 notebook to UDEV. So I followed the gentoo wiki page and used kernel 2.6.13. This caused (known) issues with my nvidia driver and I couldn't get the USB mouse to work (yet the alps

Re: [gentoo-user] what z p2p clients for linux?

2005-11-16 Thread abhay
On Tuesday 15 Nov 2005 5:42 pm, El Nino wrote: dear friends, what is the best p2p (Gnutella support) client for linux? Try Apollon with the plugins for OpenFT, Gnutella, FastTrack and Ares. I feel it is one of the best out there. Abhay pgpwo9q5LmomR.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs

2005-11-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 08:56 schrieb ext Daevid Vincent: I've been running 2.6.10 for some time. Then I started reading some stuff that I should update my Dell Inspiron 8200 notebook to UDEV. So I followed the gentoo wiki page and used kernel 2.6.13. This caused (known) issues with my

[gentoo-user] Vixiecron not working all the sudden

2005-11-16 Thread Daevid Vincent
Recently, around October 23rd, I've noticed that my cron.daily stuff isn't running. I've tried to 'restart' vixiecron and it complains that it's already started (duh). So I'll killall cron, rm the pid, etc. and then start it again and it works for a while then dies again. I made a simple script

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs

2005-11-16 Thread W.Kenworthy
(I think, without checking) devfs has been removed from 2.6.14 and everything is supposed to be udev from now on. A suggestion made out of frustration with 2.6.14 - use 2.6.13-r3 first. Some kernel versions have had glitches with udev, and I know -r2 and -r3 are working for me on the i82k. The

Re: [gentoo-user] fixing fstab

2005-11-16 Thread Mariusz Pękala
On 2005-11-16 14:11:28 +0930 (Wed, Nov), Iain Buchanan wrote: On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 23:00 -0500, ellotheth rimmwen wrote: because I just couLDN'T TAKE ANY MORE. And you're obviously using vi to compose mail :) Still haven't figured out the backspace and caps? Now, if you were using

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player

2005-11-16 Thread abhay
On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 5:35 am, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: gmplayer -mplayer itself does refuse to run. Oh, but if you know mplayer so well, maybe you can tell me, how to fast forward (2x, 4x) in (g)mplayer? I do not mean skip forward some seconds, I mean real fast forward? The only

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs

2005-11-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 09:22 schrieb ext W.Kenworthy: (I think, without checking) devfs has been removed from 2.6.14 and everything is supposed to be udev from now on. Nope, not yet. Only the config options have been commented out. First udev, install udev according to the gentoo

[gentoo-user] Failed to resolve module dependencies.

2005-11-16 Thread Anthony Roy
Hello all, My Gentoo installation is running fine at the moment, but ever since I installed it, I have had the boot up message Failed to resolve module dependencies! displayed during the boot process. Does anyone have any idea what may be causing this and how to resolve it? Thanks, -- Ant...

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs

2005-11-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 09:42 schrieb ext Dirk Heinrichs: Nope, not yet. Only the config options have been commented out. Correction: The config options have been removed, not just commented out. The devfs code is still there. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel:

Re: [gentoo-user] fixing fstab

2005-11-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:31:01 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: I still don't understand the logic of not having vi installed by default over nano... easier for newbies. And ethically acceptable to emacs users :) -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 31: Small crowd signature.asc Description:

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs

2005-11-16 Thread brullo nulla
Correction: The config options have been removed, not just commented out. The devfs code is still there. You mean there's still devfs in 2.6.14, but it is hidden? What's the sense of this? m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs

2005-11-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 10:19 schrieb ext brullo nulla: You mean there's still devfs in 2.6.14, but it is hidden? What's the sense of this? It's very hard to remove devfs from the kernel. Just removing the configure options for it makes it easier to put it in again, in case of to much

Re: [gentoo-user] Local dictionary in KDE?

2005-11-16 Thread abhay
On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 4:25 am, Willie Wong wrote: An option to skip installing dictd is to install the commandline version of StarDict, http://sdcv.sourceforge.net/ Last I checked it is not in portage. It doesn't really work like Kdict, but suits my needs well enough. Ok so I installed sdcv

[gentoo-user] Dinosaur Matrox Mystique: corruption

2005-11-16 Thread Alan E. Davis
I'm in over my head---bigtime. Trying to install a good gentoo setup, to configure xorg where I have been forced to use the last working video card in my parts box: a matrox mystique. The system is ok, with A7V600 MB, 512 MB RAM, and an Athlon XP 2600+. Video is corrupted using Gentoo, no matter

[gentoo-user] sun-jdk

2005-11-16 Thread Thiago Lüttig
Hi folks ! i´m trying to emerge the sun-jdk but i receive an emerge restrictuin to this package. How can I merge this package to the tree instead installing this package manualy ?? hosttmp # emerge -p sun-jdk These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies

[gentoo-user] compiling problems

2005-11-16 Thread Jorge Almeida
I'm experiencing unending problems compiling packages on a new install system. The current one was gtk+ : gtkdoc-scan --module=gdk-pixbuf --source-dir=../../../gdk-pixbuf --ignore-headers=pixops gdk-pixbuf-alias.h gdk-pixbuf-marshal.h gdk-pixbuf-xlib-private.h gdk-pixbuf-i18n.h

Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK launching Kmail = virus?

2005-11-16 Thread Fernando Meira
On 11/15/05, abhay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 1:14 am, Jeff Smelser wrote: I am using 1.3.6 and i havent had problem with crashes unless I start messing with the cover manager..I am using 1.3.6 as well and not messing with cover manager. In fact I didn't even know something

Re: [gentoo-user] sun-jdk

2005-11-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 12:31 schrieb ext Thiago Lüttig: Hi folks ! iŽm trying to emerge the sun-jdk but i receive an emerge restrictuin to this package. How can I merge this package to the tree instead installing this package manualy ?? Just follow the instructions. Portage can't

Re: [gentoo-user] sun-jdk

2005-11-16 Thread Thiago Lüttig
so I must download an self installing executable and manualy install it in my system ?? I can make an gentoo package containing the jdk after the install ? On 11/16/05, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 12:31 schrieb ext Thiago Lüttig: Hi folks ! iŽm trying to

Re: [gentoo-user] sun-jdk

2005-11-16 Thread Nagatoro
Thiago Lüttig wrote: Hi folks ! i´m trying to emerge the sun-jdk but i receive an emerge restrictuin to this package. How can I merge this package to the tree instead installing this package manualy ?? !!! dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.09 has fetch restriction turned on. !!! This probably means

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player

2005-11-16 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 09:37, abhay wrote: On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 5:35 am, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: gmplayer -mplayer itself does refuse to run. Oh, but if you know mplayer so well, maybe you can tell me, how to fast forward (2x, 4x) in (g)mplayer? I do not mean skip forward

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player

2005-11-16 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 02:15, Nick Rout wrote: Interesting, is this on all files, or just some? Is it the same in gmplayer and mplayer? gmplayer -mplayer itself does refuse to run. Oh, but if you know mplayer so well, maybe you can tell me, how to fast forward (2x, 4x) in

Re: [gentoo-user] sun-jdk

2005-11-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 12:54 schrieb ext Thiago Lüttig: so I must download an self installing executable and manualy install it in my system ?? No, download, then emerge again. The self-extracting refers to the fact that there are two downloads available for Linux. The ebuild expects

Re: [gentoo-user] sun-jdk

2005-11-16 Thread Alexander Skwar
Thiago Lüttig wrote: Hi folks ! i´m trying to emerge the sun-jdk but i receive an emerge restrictuin to this package. How can I merge this package to the tree instead installing this package manualy ?? By reading the error message. It's all written there in the rows starting with a *.

Re: [gentoo-user] sun-jdk

2005-11-16 Thread Alexander Skwar
Thiago Lüttig wrote: so I must download an self installing executable and manualy install it in my system ?? No. What does make you think that? Just read the error message and act accordingly. I can make an gentoo package containing the jdk after the install ? No. PS: Please no full quote,

Re: [gentoo-user] fixing fstab

2005-11-16 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 09:28 +0100, Mariusz Pękala wrote: You know that ellotheth just wanted to scream, and it was not a mistake? Yes, I was just making an attempt at humour... ;-) :-7 -- Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player

2005-11-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:05:28 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: thanks, but that is pretty un-intuitive. xine uses arrow up/down for the speed... a combination where I do not need to span my fingers over half the keyboard.. But mplayer also jumps forward with mouse wheel up, and backwards

Re: [gentoo-user] Vixiecron not working all the sudden

2005-11-16 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daevid Vincent wrote: But I don't think that will slove it, as the date of the file his Aug 11th... So that means it was running fine for several months with the wrong perms... is it running? I mean, ps ax shows it? - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman -

Re: [gentoo-user] fixing fstab

2005-11-16 Thread ellotheth rimmwen
On 11/16/05, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 09:28 +0100, Mariusz Pękala wrote: You know that ellotheth just wanted to scream, and it was not a mistake? Yes, I was just making an attempt at humour... Hey, I laughed. =D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] DNS trouble

2005-11-16 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
Thanks, I will try to fix the reverse addressess ... thanks. On 11/15/05, Bryan Whitehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ dig -x 210.200.1.1 | grep AUTHORITY\ SEC -A 1 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: 1.200.210.in-addr.arpa. 10733 IN SOA dns.ht.net.tw. root.dns.ht.net.tw.

Re: [gentoo-user] Local dictionary in KDE?

2005-11-16 Thread Holly Bostick
abhay schreef: On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 4:25 am, Willie Wong wrote: An option to skip installing dictd is to install the commandline version of StarDict, http://sdcv.sourceforge.net/ Last I checked it is not in portage. It doesn't really work like Kdict, but suits my needs well enough.

[gentoo-user] Gnome Timer

2005-11-16 Thread Kurt Guenther
Is there something akin to the KDE timer? --Kurt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player

2005-11-16 Thread abhay
On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 5:31 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: FATAL: Konnte Videofilter (-vf) oder -ausgabetreiber (-vo) nicht initialisieren. I could not make much out of that error message (still need to learn a lot of languages ;) ) but looks like a problem with your video output driver

[gentoo-user] Default kernel's PAGE_SIZE

2005-11-16 Thread Miguel
Hi, im tunnig a postgresql server and i want to know what is the default value for kernel's PAGE_SIZE Is this a gentoo especific value or aplies to linux kernels in general, i mean, any distribution? Thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player

2005-11-16 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 13:55, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:05:28 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: thanks, but that is pretty un-intuitive. xine uses arrow up/down for the speed... a combination where I do not need to span my fingers over half the keyboard.. But

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player

2005-11-16 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 15:46, abhay wrote: On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 5:31 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: FATAL: Konnte Videofilter (-vf) oder -ausgabetreiber (-vo) nicht initialisieren. I could not make much out of that error message (still need to learn a lot of languages ;) ) but

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - SSL certificate authorities

2005-11-16 Thread kashani
Antoine wrote: Hi, We are going to set up ssl on a webserver at work and I guess that means we need a certificate... does anyone have any useful alternatives to Verisign? Are they really worth the name? We are not going to be doing any monetary transactions but our clients are very security

Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK launching Kmail = virus?

2005-11-16 Thread Fernando Meira
On 11/16/05, Fernando Meira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'm using 1.2.4 thou.. It behaved very well before.. but now it just crashes all the time... I dont remember to have done anything different that may have caused this... Anyway, I'll update to 1.3.6 and see how it goes.. Fernando.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player

2005-11-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:14:18 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: mplayer also allows you to redefine all of these in its config file. You don't have to worry about it being intuitive when you get to choose the key bindings. but xine does it right without the need of editing the conf, so

Re: [gentoo-user] Local dictionary in KDE?

2005-11-16 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 16 November 2005 15:57, Holly Bostick wrote: abhay schreef: On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 4:25 am, Willie Wong wrote: An option to skip installing dictd is to install the commandline version of StarDict, http://sdcv.sourceforge.net/ Last I checked it is not in portage. It doesn't really

Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK launching Kmail = virus?

2005-11-16 Thread Preston Hagar
On 11/16/05, Fernando Meira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well.. the update didn't go as well as I would like! Here's where the problem started! Any idea? make[6]: *** [libamarokarts.la] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory

Re: [gentoo-user] compiling problems

2005-11-16 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/16/05, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm experiencing unending problems compiling packages on a new install system. The current one was gtk+ : snip cd ./html gtkdoc-mkhtml gdk-pixbuf ../gdk-pixbuf.sgml parser error : out of memory error snip Could there be some

[gentoo-user] Re: Dig

2005-11-16 Thread James
Willie Wong wwong at Princeton.EDU writes: What package is the command `dig' in? equery belongs dig is a really nifty search tool James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs

2005-11-16 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/16/05, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 10:19 schrieb ext brullo nulla: You mean there's still devfs in 2.6.14, but it is hidden? What's the sense of this? It's very hard to remove devfs from the kernel. Just removing the configure options for

Re: [gentoo-user] compiling problems

2005-11-16 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Richard Fish wrote: Probably not, because it isn't gcc that is failing...it is gtkdoc-mkhtml, and it is running out of memory. You can either merge gtk with USE=-doc, which will skip this step, or use MAKEFLAGS=-j1, which will run only one process at a time, and reduce

[gentoo-user] Re: Default kernel's PAGE_SIZE

2005-11-16 Thread Remy Blank
Miguel wrote: Hi, im tunnig a postgresql server and i want to know what is the default value for kernel's PAGE_SIZE Is this a gentoo especific value or aplies to linux kernels in general, i mean, any distribution? This is a processor-specific value, and on x86 it's 4096 bytes. It's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dig

2005-11-16 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 04:08:01PM +, James wrote: Willie Wong wwong at Princeton.EDU writes: What package is the command `dig' in? equery belongs dig is a really nifty search tool except it doesn't work when bind-tools isn't ALREADY installed. =D I was trying to find

Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK launching Kmail = virus?

2005-11-16 Thread Fernando Meira
On 11/16/05, Jeff Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2005 10:05 am, Preston Hagar wrote: Although amarok is probably my favorite audio player, I have found it to be a little finicky. I usually find it works best with xine. I usually use a -arts -gstreamer xine so xine is

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP (DISCLAIMER: Let me start off by saying that this is truly not a flame but more of a concern. So please do not flame me for stating my opinions/concerns.) SNIP Understood. I certainly didn't take it that way. I have been an avid Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - SSL certificate authorities

2005-11-16 Thread Antoine
kashani wrote: Antoine wrote: Hi, We are going to set up ssl on a webserver at work and I guess that means we need a certificate... does anyone have any useful alternatives to Verisign? Are they really worth the name? We are not going to be doing any monetary transactions but our clients

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - SSL certificate authorities

2005-11-16 Thread Antoine
Remember that your web server must be properly configured (http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/ssl/ssl_howto.html) in order to offer any real security. The howto says SGC is only available with verisign - is this true? Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

RE: [gentoo-user] Xorg compile errors [solved]

2005-11-16 Thread Budd, Tracy
-Original Message- From: Richard Fish Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:10 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg compile errors On 11/15/05, Budd, Tracy wrote: - I have run memtest86+ and prime95 extensively to check for memory

Re: [gentoo-user] kdexdeltas

2005-11-16 Thread znx
Hi, This only saves you space in your distfiles directory. Instead of having full tarballs for each release of KDE, you get the major release and then all the minor fixes in xdelta packages. z On 16/11/05, LostSon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All I was looking at some things tonight and

Re: [gentoo-user] Local dictionary in KDE?

2005-11-16 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Monday 14 November 2005 23:26, abhay wrote: Hello, I would like to install a dictionary application in KDE that can be run without using internet. Though Kdict is available but it requires me to have a internet connection for its search; which I am unable to provide everytime. I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a lot longer than I originally intended it to be so if you want the jist of it skip to the end. (DISCLAIMER: Let me start off by saying that this is truly not a flame but more of a concern. So please do not flame me for stating my

Re: [gentoo-user] Local dictionary in KDE?

2005-11-16 Thread abhay
On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 7:27 pm, Holly Bostick wrote: This does not suggest that sdcv actutally *has* these dictionaries contained within it. But likely whatever is missing can be found at the stardict site http://stardict.sourceforge.net/ Dictionaries would seem to be found at

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player

2005-11-16 Thread abhay
On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 8:48 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Andmplayer does indeed honor the aspect-ratio. Sadly, you are forced to have the window in the right ratio (not like xine, where you can have the window in every ratio you like, and xine adds blavk lines where needed). mplayer

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread jarmstrong
SNIP I use Gentoo to run all my boxen and I love it. That being said, I have ALWAYS done a stage1 install. Never had a single problem I couldn't fix. Then, suddenly, they switched everything to stage3 and removed a LOT of options from the Gentoo build process. I LIKED being able to modify

Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK launching Kmail = virus?

2005-11-16 Thread abhay
On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 9:08 pm, Fernando Meira wrote: .libs/rawscope_impl.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok13RawScope_implE4_N4Arts1 4StdSynthModuleE+0xb8): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamEnd()' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[6]: ***

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:20:36 -0500 Derek Tracy wrote: Part way through the online handbook I noticed that they standardized the Stage3 install. I figured that since the developers thought it was best to use a Stage3 install then why not give it a shot. I read your message and was surprised

RE: [gentoo-user] Vixiecron not working all the sudden

2005-11-16 Thread Daevid Vincent
-Original Message- From: Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:14 AM Daevid Vincent wrote: But I don't think that will slove it, as the date of the file his Aug 11th... So that means it was running fine for several months

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player

2005-11-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:05:28 +0100 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: thanks, but that is pretty un-intuitive. xine uses arrow up/down for the speed... a combination where I do not need to span my fingers over half the keyboard.. there is a mechanism to change the keybindings to suit your

Re: [gentoo-user] Solution to long-in to my system and/or check email while traveling

2005-11-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:04:53 -0700 Joseph wrote: I could borrow any-body's in the family computer and use Knoppix (with knock and ssh) to log-in to my system or to do any Banking; as I wouldn't trust their Windows system. I think this would eliminate all the spywere and key-loggers if

RE: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Budd, Tracy
-Original Message- From: Nick Rout Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:12 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path? On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:20:36 -0500 Derek Tracy wrote: Part way through the online handbook I

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread kashani
Nick Rout wrote: I read your message and was surprised at this. Last time I read the handbooks the Handbook gave stage 1/2/3 options and the 2005.1 handbook stuck to stage 3. (Talking x86 here, I have never done an instal on other architectures). Now, like you, I read this in the Handbook:

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Benjamin Martin
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:12, Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:20:36 -0500 Derek Tracy wrote: Part way through the online handbook I noticed that they standardized the Stage3 install. I figured that since the developers thought it was best to use a Stage3 install then why

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/16/05, Benjamin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:12, Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:20:36 -0500 Derek Tracy wrote: Part way through the online handbook I noticed that they standardized the Stage3 install. I figured that since the

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Derek Tracy
On 11/16/05, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a lot longer than I originally intended it to be so if you want the jist of it skip to the end. (DISCLAIMER: Let me start off by saying that this is truly not a flame but more of a

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Zac Medico
Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:20:36 -0500 Derek Tracy wrote: Part way through the online handbook I noticed that they standardized the Stage3 install. I figured that since the developers thought it was best to use a Stage3 install then why not give it a shot. I read your message

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Benjamin Martin
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:47, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm not a developer and I've never done a Stage 1 install so I cannot say for sure, but it's my understanding that after a Stage 3 install most people end up rebuilding everything anyway within a few weeks. Very soon my Stage 3 and your

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Derek Tracy
I couldn't have said it better myself.On 11/16/05, Benjamin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:47, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm not a developer and I've never done a Stage 1 install so I cannot say for sure, but it's my understanding that after a Stage 3 install most people

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:30:28 -0600 kashani wrote: Nick Rout wrote: I read your message and was surprised at this. Last time I read the handbooks the Handbook gave stage 1/2/3 options and the 2005.1 handbook stuck to stage 3. (Talking x86 here, I have never done an instal on other

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/16/05, Benjamin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:47, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm not a developer and I've never done a Stage 1 install so I cannot say for sure, but it's my understanding that after a Stage 3 install most people end up rebuilding everything

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Derek Tracy
I also want to reiterate that if they are going to make a Stage3 install the default then make it a rock solid release. And in my opinion portage needs to be pruned not only of un-maintained packages but also of packages that conflict with others. Like I said before a Stable tree should be just

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Manuel McLure
Mark Knecht wrote: Good points. I agree it doesn't seem like the Gentoo way to remove options, however, in response to Derek's original point about rising or fallign numbers of Gentoo new users it might be wise to make the default install Stage 3, thus making the newest users most likely more

Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK launching Kmail = virus?

2005-11-16 Thread abhay
I nailed it on my system. I had some free time so installed gdb and ran amarok. Looks like if Retrieve similar artists is checked under Last.fm, it crashes amaroK. I unchecked the option and now it runs flawlessly. Check it in your case as well. Abhay pgpz44QaXHAhK.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 02:50 pm, Derek Tracy wrote: That is what I was  thinking when I switched to stable.  From what I am seeing either my computer doesn't like stable code or stable does not mean stable anymore. But thats not what you said. I Quote: In the past I have always

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 02:55 pm, Benjamin Martin wrote: True that the installations become identical very soon. But what if I set up server using stage 1 and an up-to-date portage tree. After the installation is finished it'll sit around doing whatever it's supposed to do and I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK launching Kmail = virus?

2005-11-16 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 03:37 pm, abhay wrote: I nailed it on my system. I had some free time so installed gdb and ran amarok. Looks like if Retrieve similar artists is checked under Last.fm, it crashes amaroK. I unchecked the option and now it runs flawlessly. Check it in your case as

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a branch is marked stable all of the packages in that branch should work, I'm not sure this is always possible. Much of your complaint comes from the ipw2200 driver, which is new in 2.6.14. But the in-kernel version is several versions

[gentoo-user] Kernel build no update grub

2005-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Updating the kernel today, I referenced that piece of the documentation and borrowed this command from it: genkernel --bootloader=grub all However, not only did it not update grub.conf but grub.conf disappeared entirely following the successful build. I did find this in /var/log/genkernel.log:

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also want to reiterate that if they are going to make a Stage3 install the default then make it a rock solid release. And in my opinion portage needs to be pruned not only of un-maintained packages but also of packages that conflict with

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Derek Tracy
On 11/16/05, Jeff Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2005 02:50 pm, Derek Tracy wrote: That is what I was thinking when I switched to stable. From what I am seeing either my computer doesn't like stable code or stable does not mean stable anymore.But thats not what you

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs

2005-11-16 Thread William Kenworthy
Yes udev works, however works well is something else entirely. Udev has been the bane of my life a number of times - at least with devfs I had a chance of working it out. It often seems like we take two steps back with every new approach, and take a lot of pain just to get back to where we were.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Derek Tracy
On 11/16/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a branch is marked stable all of the packages in that branch should work,I'm not sure this is always possible.Much of your complaint comes from the ipw2200 driver, which is new in 2.6.14.But

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel build no update grub

2005-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Updating the kernel today, I referenced that piece of the documentation and borrowed this command from it: I'm pretty sure I need some new kind of grub.conf but what should it look like.. I've just appended what I think might be adequate to the original lines yeah I saved a backup..

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:44:49 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP I use Gentoo to run all my boxen and I love it. That being said, I have ALWAYS done a stage1 install. Never had a single problem I couldn't fix. Then, suddenly, they switched everything to stage3 and removed a LOT of

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread kashani
Derek Tracy wrote: I also want to reiterate that if they are going to make a Stage3 install the default then make it a rock solid release. And in my opinion portage needs to be pruned not only of un-maintained packages but also of packages that conflict with others. Like I said before a

[gentoo-user] Re: Dig

2005-11-16 Thread James
Willie Wong wwong at Princeton.EDU writes: What package is the command `dig' in? equery belongs dig is a really nifty search tool except it doesn't work when bind-tools isn't ALREADY installed. =D I was trying to find out which package to emerge. Yes it would require you to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dig

2005-11-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:23:50 + (UTC) James wrote: Debian has such an index, and I often visit to see what software can do what. Unless I've missed the wiki, there's really no place at all to read about the various pacakges available on Gentoo. James Read the archives. This is

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs

2005-11-16 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/16/05, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes udev works, however works well is something else entirely. Udev has been the bane of my life a number of times - at least with devfs I had a chance of working it out. It often seems like we take two steps back with every new

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel build no update grub

2005-11-16 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 16:25 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: Updating the kernel today, I referenced that piece of the documentation and borrowed this command from it: genkernel --bootloader=grub all I've never trusted it... However, not only did it not update grub.conf but grub.conf

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - SSL certificate authorities

2005-11-16 Thread Jonathan Nichols
If these clients *know* you, and *trust* you, and know anything about security, there is no reason why you couldn't get away with a self-signed cert. If not, http://www.instantssl.com/ I can second this. I will be buying my mail server certs through InstantSSL in a few weeks. So far, I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:44:49 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I use Gentoo to run all my boxen and I love it. That being said, I | have ALWAYS done a stage1 install. Never had a single problem I | couldn't fix. Then, suddenly, they switched everything to stage3 and | removed a LOT of options

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I am complaining about is that neither of the drivers will work. What doesn't work? Does the module build? Does it load? What errors do you get? Does it work if you run the same kernel version and driver you used before? If the

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have to disagree with you on this. I do not believe that it is a config issue I beleive that many of the x86 packages still do not play well with each other, that is what I am saying needs fixed. Again, be specific please. Give us

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-16 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/16/05, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ Note: looks like I'm missing half this thread because certain jackasses are posting HTML messages to the list. You'd think people would've learned by now... ] We've tried educating about the evils of HTML (and top-posting). It always

[gentoo-user] highpoint raid

2005-11-16 Thread Douglas James Dunn
I have a athlon xp 3000 processor and a DFI LanParty KT400A Socket A Motherboard, 1 gig of ddr ram. I think i am having kernel config problems with it. I am using the highpoint raid. when i installed linux i had to use the 2004.3 disk with the smp kernel. I'm not really sure what the differences

Re: [gentoo-user] Dinosaur Matrox Mystique: corruption

2005-11-16 Thread Bob Sanders
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:50:14 +1000 Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gather that there was a bug in the mga drivers some time ago, and it appears that the xorg drivers have incorporated the patches I have seen during my google searches. I had one running on Gentoo last year, before

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