Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

2010-04-11 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Dale wrote: On the screen that usually shows the progress, it says "Fatal error at startup: No space left on device." The main screen where I select files shows there is space left. It shows about 1Mb or so left. Do you have enou

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > So help2man won't build due to some missing perl module. > > I'm assuming this isn't bad enough to stop a reboot from being > successful but @system is @system so no reboot until I hear something > back. (Or I get bored waiting...) ;-) > > Che

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

2010-04-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Dale wrote: > > On the screen that usually shows the progress, it says "Fatal error at > startup: No space left on device." The main screen where I select files > shows there is space left. It shows about 1Mb or so left. Do you have enough free space in /tmp to

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> >> A couple of packages in this OpenRC upgrade aren't building. I hope >> they are less important. So far groff and help2man have failed so I >> did --resume --skip-first and moved on f

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > > A couple of packages in this OpenRC upgrade aren't building. I hope > they are less important. So far groff and help2man have failed so I > did --resume --skip-first and moved on for now. > So it's done and I'm editing. In /etc/init.d I se

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:11:53 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> > Doing system first makes good sense. Then you can update your config >> > files, follow the openrc update etc and then reboot. The world part of >> > the update will take quite a w

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:11:53 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > > Doing system first makes good sense. Then you can update your config > > files, follow the openrc update etc and then reboot. The world part of > > the update will take quite a while, especially if you use KDE or > > GNOME. > > Less tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:59:07 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> 1) I don't see any mention of hald & dbus in the upgrade guide. I >> currently have them turned on. Are they still necessary? I know hald >> is going away one of these days. Is it to

Re: [gentoo-user] Custom Stage4

2010-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:20:39 -0400, dhk wrote: > Doing the stage 3 as you suggested sounds good, but how can I ensure the > same configuration. I would need to make sure I don't loose any > customization like users, domainname, hostname, desktops, timezone, run > level programs, bookmarks, .bash_

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:59:07 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > 1) I don't see any mention of hald & dbus in the upgrade guide. I > currently have them turned on. Are they still necessary? I know hald > is going away one of these days. Is it too early for me to dump it. > Possibly dump hald before the up

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:24:18 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > I have a new machine that just came up yesterday. I was thinking of > running ~arch on it and seeing how things work out. Seems like it's a > good time to do it if I'm ever going to as I haven't started using it > and it's going to get busy.

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:36:37 +0200, Damian wrote: >> >>> The reason for doing so is that what is considered as unstable as been >>> regarded as stable releases for the developers, and t

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:36:37 +0200, Damian wrote: > >> The reason for doing so is that what is considered as unstable as been >> regarded as stable releases for the developers, and the truth is that >> the problems I got for using outdated s

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Alex Schuster
Damian writes: > Thus, I'm thinking about switching all of my system to the unstable > branch. But first I want to be sure that this is reasonable given the > problems I described before. > > Can you provide me some useful advice according to your experience? I have asked a similar question here

Re: [gentoo-user] Custom Stage4

2010-04-11 Thread dhk
On 04/11/2010 03:39 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:45:09 -0400, dhk wrote: > >> For example open office is almost 10 Gigs, > > How did that happen? It's around 290MB here, and that's before > compression. The package built when I installed it is 120MB. > >> I would like to exc

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 April 2010 20:36:37 Damian wrote: > Hello, > > I've been using the gentoo stable branch since I began with this distro > (around 4 years ago), but lately I've been unmasking almost all packages > I use in my daily work (emacs, firefox, gnome*, xmonad, etc). > > The reason for doing s

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:36:37 +0200, Damian wrote: > The reason for doing so is that what is considered as unstable as been > regarded as stable releases for the developers, and the truth is that > the problems I got for using outdated software were more that the ones I > had for using unstable ver

Re: [gentoo-user] Custom Stage4

2010-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:45:09 -0400, dhk wrote: > For example open office is almost 10 Gigs, How did that happen? It's around 290MB here, and that's before compression. The package built when I installed it is 120MB. > I would like to exclude that > and just about everything else I installed over

[gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Damian
Hello, I've been using the gentoo stable branch since I began with this distro (around 4 years ago), but lately I've been unmasking almost all packages I use in my daily work (emacs, firefox, gnome*, xmonad, etc). The reason for doing so is that what is considered as unstable as been regarded as

[gentoo-user] Custom Stage4

2010-04-11 Thread dhk
I'm following the steps/script in http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Custom_Stage4 for making a custom Stage4. Though I haven't tried installing it, the make script seems to work since it build a stage4.tar.bz2 that's 21 Gigs. Before I use it I was wondering what directories I can exclude to make it

[gentoo-user] DVB-T and EPG

2010-04-11 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, is there any application beside kaffeine to receive EPG text data in a human readable form? I am using vlc to look DVB-T... Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send

Re: [gentoo-user] X crashes, how to troubleshoot?

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Willie Wong wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 01:21:01AM +0700, Ngoc Nguyen Bao wrote: >> Seems that you also suffer problem with Intel driver and kernel >> 2.6.32. Upgrade your xf86-video-intel to v2.11.0 may help. > > Actually, I am still on kernel 2.6.30; with .3

Re: [gentoo-user] X crashes, how to troubleshoot?

2010-04-11 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 01:21:01AM +0700, Ngoc Nguyen Bao wrote: > Seems that you also suffer problem with Intel driver and kernel > 2.6.32. Upgrade your xf86-video-intel to v2.11.0 may help. Actually, I am still on kernel 2.6.30; with .32 something's not quite right with the KMS and on boot my la

Re: [gentoo-user] X crashes, how to troubleshoot?

2010-04-11 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 11:57:32AM -0400, AJ Spagnoletti wrote: > This is a late reply and you might have already solved the issue, > however, I was running into this problem as well, and it was resolved > for my by backing my X packages back down to stable as I was running a > stable kernel. Anoth

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo on the i7

2010-04-11 Thread Mick
On Sunday 11 April 2010 14:12:08 Kerin Millar wrote: > On 11/04/2010 12:27, Mick wrote: > > On Sunday 11 April 2010 11:43:26 zeera...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 03:20:50AM +0100, Kerin Millar wrote: > >>> On 10/04/2010 23:06, luis jure wrote: > hello list, > > afte

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo on the i7

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Kerin Millar wrote: > > $ paste <(cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cache/index?/type) <(cat > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cache/index?/size) | sed -re 's/\W+/: /' > > On my system that results in the following: > > Data: 32K > Instruction: 32K > Unified: 6144K >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables - do I need the nat table?

2010-04-11 Thread Graham Murray
Tanstaafl writes: > I'm a bit clueless when it comes to firewalls, and have no idea what > these numbers mean/do: > > *raw > :PREROUTING ACCEPT [4911:886011] > :OUTPUT ACCEPT [4546:2818732] > COMMIT The numbers are [packets:bytes] which match the rule or table concerned.

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo on the i7

2010-04-11 Thread Kerin Millar
On 11/04/2010 12:27, Mick wrote: On Sunday 11 April 2010 11:43:26 zeera...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 03:20:50AM +0100, Kerin Millar wrote: On 10/04/2010 23:06, luis jure wrote: hello list, after many years without a hardware upgrade, i'll be receiving my new computer next week:

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo on the i7

2010-04-11 Thread Kerin Millar
On 11/04/2010 11:43, zeera...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] In short, use "native" and let the compiler take care of the details. Cheers, --Kerin There's a thread in Installing Gentoo where a dev (can't remember which), that says native isn't the best option, but the best option indeed is to s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo on the i7

2010-04-11 Thread Mick
On Sunday 11 April 2010 11:43:26 zeera...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 03:20:50AM +0100, Kerin Millar wrote: > > On 10/04/2010 23:06, luis jure wrote: > > > hello list, > > > > > > after many years without a hardware upgrade, i'll be receiving my new > > > computer next week: intel i7

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables - do I need the nat table?

2010-04-11 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-10 10:26 PM, Kerin Millar wrote: > On 10/04/2010 23:17, Tanstaafl wrote: >> This is on a server box, and I am *not* doing NAT on it... >> >> Do I even need the nat table? If not, I'd like to build the kernel >> without NAT support, but if there's a good reason not to do that, I >> won't.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo on the i7

2010-04-11 Thread zeerak . w
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 03:20:50AM +0100, Kerin Millar wrote: > On 10/04/2010 23:06, luis jure wrote: > > > > hello list, > > > > after many years without a hardware upgrade, i'll be receiving my new > > computer next week: intel i7 920 cpu, 6 GB ram, asus p6t mobo. > > > > i'm pretty excited, i im