Re: [gentoo-user] Re: evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-18 Thread Joseph
On 04/18/13 17:25, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 18/04/2013 14:34, Hartmut Figge wrote: Stroller: On 18 April 2013, at 02:12, Joseph wrote: I have uninstalled cups-pdf and when I go any program "print" there is still option: "Print to file" except that now 'Save to folder" by default is empty fie

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Michael Mol
On 04/18/2013 05:46 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 18.04.2013 23:10, schrieb Michael Mol: [snip] >> Do you say that because you've tested the various orders and know >> that one application will not conflict with another if started >> before that, or do you say that because you've never not

Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> >> I don't use wine. For a lot of good reasons. > >> > > Name one. > > > fat, slow and buggy. Do you need more? If I really had an application > that I must use and is windows only - I would install windows. That > is a lot quicker and less painful than that wine crapfest shitting > all over

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 18.04.2013 23:10, schrieb Michael Mol: > On 04/18/2013 04:43 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> Am 18.04.2013 22:13, schrieb Michael Mol: >>> On 04/18/2013 04:02 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 18.04.2013 21:48, schrieb Michael Mol: > [snip] > > My particular discovery was that if I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Michael Mol
On 04/18/2013 05:26 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: > Michael Mol: > >> My particular discovery was that if I launched WoW under WINE, and then >> launched a browser, audio in WoW worked fine. If I launched the browser >> first (which resulted in a flash applet being loaded in GMail for the >> purpose of

[gentoo-user] Re: Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Hartmut Figge
Michael Mol: >My particular discovery was that if I launched WoW under WINE, and then >launched a browser, audio in WoW worked fine. If I launched the browser >first (which resulted in a flash applet being loaded in GMail for the >purpose of audio notifications for google talk), Flash grabbed the

Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Michael Mol
On 04/18/2013 05:28 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >>> ... >>> (i) It's a "sound server", a description I don't understand. What >>> does it _do_? Why do I want it? It seems to be an unnecessary >>> layer of fat between sound applications and the kernel. >> >> If you don't understand the term "soun

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Michael Mol
On 04/18/2013 04:43 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 18.04.2013 22:13, schrieb Michael Mol: >> On 04/18/2013 04:02 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> Am 18.04.2013 21:48, schrieb Michael Mol: [snip] My particular discovery was that if I launched WoW under WINE, and then launched a

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 18.04.2013 22:02, schrieb Stroller: > On 18 April 2013, at 20:32, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> ... >> (i) It's a "sound server", a description I don't understand. What does >> it _do_? Why do I want it? It seems to be an unnecessary layer of fat >> between sound applications and the kernel. > If

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 18.04.2013 22:13, schrieb Michael Mol: > On 04/18/2013 04:02 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> Am 18.04.2013 21:48, schrieb Michael Mol: >>> On 04/18/2013 03:32 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>> >>> [snip] >>> So, I grasped the nettle, put in a negative pulseaudio use flag, unmerged pa an

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage screwup

2013-04-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 14:34:42 -0600, Joseph wrote: > I'm not getting any were with this; looking blindly trying to install > older versions hoping it might help This Gentoo portage + attic is not > getting any easier it is not documented officially how to install and > run it and if I ask how to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage screwup

2013-04-18 Thread Joseph
On 04/18/13 22:10, Michael Hampicke wrote: Am 18.04.2013 15:33, schrieb Joseph: What is going on with portage? All the older packages are being removed and and some of them are not even made stable. I've masked current one app-text/poppler-0.22.2-r2 but looking at the web-page this is not even

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Alan Mackenzie
'evening, Stroller. On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 09:02:36PM +0100, Stroller wrote: > On 18 April 2013, at 20:32, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > ... > > (i) It's a "sound server", a description I don't understand. What does > > it _do_? Why do I want it? It seems to be an unnecessary layer of fat > > bet

Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > ... > > (i) It's a "sound server", a description I don't understand. What > > does it _do_? Why do I want it? It seems to be an unnecessary > > layer of fat between sound applications and the kernel. > > If you don't understand the term "sound server" you probably > shouldn't be using Gen

Re: [gentoo-user] HD7870 AMD Catalyst no framebuffer console

2013-04-18 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 18.04.2013 17:37, schrieb Wang Xuerui: > 2013/4/18 Amankwah : >> Hi all, >> I have a video card HD7870, I tried install the AMD Catalyst driver >> ~amd64 in portage, it works well under X. But when I press ctrl+alt+F1, the >> screen is blank?? >> Although I googled this problem I add n

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Michael Mol
On 04/18/2013 04:02 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 18.04.2013 21:48, schrieb Michael Mol: >> On 04/18/2013 03:32 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>> So, I grasped the nettle, put in a negative pulseaudio use flag, unmerged >>> pa and alsa-plugins, then rebuilt the 14 packages which

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage screwup

2013-04-18 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 18.04.2013 15:33, schrieb Joseph: > What is going on with portage? > All the older packages are being removed and and some of them are not > even made stable. > > I've masked current one app-text/poppler-0.22.2-r2 but looking at the > web-page this is not even stable poppler-0.22.3 is masked al

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 April 2013, at 20:32, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > ... > (i) It's a "sound server", a description I don't understand. What does > it _do_? Why do I want it? It seems to be an unnecessary layer of fat > between sound applications and the kernel. If you don't understand the term "sound server"

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 18.04.2013 21:48, schrieb Michael Mol: > On 04/18/2013 03:32 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > [snip] > >> So, I grasped the nettle, put in a negative pulseaudio use flag, unmerged >> pa and alsa-plugins, then rebuilt the 14 packages which needed it. >> >> Surprisingly, everything still works. I no

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Michael Mol
On 04/18/2013 03:32 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: [snip] > So, I grasped the nettle, put in a negative pulseaudio use flag, unmerged > pa and alsa-plugins, then rebuilt the 14 packages which needed it. > > Surprisingly, everything still works. I now get those last seconds from > my news streams. :

[gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Gentoo. I've just removed pulseaudio from my main Gentoo system. Why? Several reasons: (i) It's a "sound server", a description I don't understand. What does it _do_? Why do I want it? It seems to be an unnecessary layer of fat between sound applications and the kernel. (ii) I was ha

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage screwup

2013-04-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 18.04.2013 17:50, schrieb Joseph: > On 04/18/13 15:31, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> All ebuilds stay on the Gentoo CVS server, ones that are removed from >> the >> tree in the "attic". If you want a previous version, download it from >> the attic and put it in your local overlay. >> >> >> -- >> Nei

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage screwup

2013-04-18 Thread Joseph
On 04/18/13 15:31, Neil Bothwick wrote: All ebuilds stay on the Gentoo CVS server, ones that are removed from the tree in the "attic". If you want a previous version, download it from the attic and put it in your local overlay. -- Neil Bothwick If there is light at the end of the tunnel...ord

Re: [gentoo-user] HD7870 AMD Catalyst no framebuffer console

2013-04-18 Thread Wang Xuerui
2013/4/18 Amankwah : > Hi all, > I have a video card HD7870, I tried install the AMD Catalyst driver > ~amd64 in portage, it works well under X. But when I press ctrl+alt+F1, the > screen is blank?? > Although I googled this problem I add nomodeset and radeon.modeset=0 > video=uvesa to t

[gentoo-user] HD7870 AMD Catalyst no framebuffer console

2013-04-18 Thread Amankwah
Hi all, I have a video card HD7870, I tried install the AMD Catalyst driver ~amd64 in portage, it works well under X. But when I press ctrl+alt+F1, the screen is blank?? Although I googled this problem I add nomodeset and radeon.modeset=0 video=uvesa to the kernel cmdline in /boot/grub/m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/04/2013 14:34, Hartmut Figge wrote: > Stroller: >> On 18 April 2013, at 02:12, Joseph wrote: > >>> I have uninstalled cups-pdf and when I go any program "print" there is >>> still option: "Print to file" except that now 'Save to folder" by default >>> is empty field, before if I remember w

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-18 Thread Joseph
On 04/18/13 15:27, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 08:06:08 -0600, Joseph wrote: >I can only test by evoking evince from a xterm. No desktop here. With >what command is evince called when started from the desktop? > >Hartmut When you install evince, the entry is automatically created

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage screwup

2013-04-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 07:33:24 -0600, Joseph wrote: > All the older packages are being removed and and some of them are not > even made stable. That makes sense. These are testing packages, if the tests reveal a fault that is rectified in a later ebuild, only the fixed one will be made stable. > I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 08:06:08 -0600, Joseph wrote: > >I can only test by evoking evince from a xterm. No desktop here. With > >what command is evince called when started from the desktop? > > > >Hartmut > > When you install evince, the entry is automatically created in XFCE4 in > Application Men

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-18 Thread Joseph
On 04/18/13 15:32, Hartmut Figge wrote: Joseph: On 04/18/13 14:34, Hartmut Figge wrote: http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ev130418.png Even if I type different file name eg. 123.pdf I can not print. Does 'Print Preview' work? Which package implements "Print to file" it is not cups-p

[gentoo-user] Portage screwup

2013-04-18 Thread Joseph
What is going on with portage? All the older packages are being removed and and some of them are not even made stable. I've masked current one app-text/poppler-0.22.2-r2 but looking at the web-page this is not even stable poppler-0.22.3 is masked all across the previous version are all removed.

[gentoo-user] Re: evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-18 Thread Hartmut Figge
Joseph: >On 04/18/13 14:34, Hartmut Figge wrote: >>http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ev130418.png > >Even if I type different file name eg. 123.pdf I can not print. Does 'Print Preview' work? >Which package implements "Print to file" it is not cups-pdf Cannot be, because i don't have cups-p

Re: [gentoo-user] evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-18 Thread Joseph
On 04/18/13 20:38, Wang Xuerui wrote: 2013/4/18 Joseph : Well, I finally narrow it down to one build in functionality it that is build into some library, though nobody can tell me which library is it. I'm talking about the option when you go to "Print" from for example Firefox or evince, when pr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-18 Thread Joseph
On 04/18/13 14:34, Hartmut Figge wrote: Stroller: On 18 April 2013, at 02:12, Joseph wrote: I have uninstalled cups-pdf and when I go any program "print" there is still option: "Print to file" except that now 'Save to folder" by default is empty field, before if I remember was a user home d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-18 Thread Joseph
On 04/18/13 09:30, Hartmut Figge wrote: Joseph: When I try to print from "evince" to pdf file I get an error: Error printing - Operation not supported I have tried that with evince 2.32.0-r4 and got the same error. After starting evince from a xterm with 'evince example.pdf' and choosing Fil

Re: [gentoo-user] evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-18 Thread Wang Xuerui
2013/4/18 Joseph : > Well, I finally narrow it down to one build in functionality it that is > build into some library, though nobody can tell me which library is it. > I'm talking about the option when you go to "Print" from for example Firefox > or evince, when print window pop-up there is option

[gentoo-user] Re: evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-18 Thread Hartmut Figge
Stroller: >On 18 April 2013, at 02:12, Joseph wrote: >> I have uninstalled cups-pdf and when I go any program "print" there is still >> option: "Print to file" except that now 'Save to folder" by default is empty >> field, before if I remember was a user home directory. > >Well, I would have ass

Re: [gentoo-user] evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-18 Thread Joseph
On 04/18/13 13:23, Stroller wrote: On 18 April 2013, at 02:12, Joseph wrote: ... I have uninstalled cups-pdf and when I go any program "print" there is still option: "Print to file" except that now 'Save to folder" by default is empty field, before if I remember was a user home directory. W

Re: [gentoo-user] evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-18 Thread Joseph
On 04/18/13 08:40, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 18/04/2013 00:34, Joseph wrote: On 04/17/13 22:26, J. Roeleveld wrote: I agree, like actually provide more information when you mention that after using $$RANDOM_TOOL it doesn't work on another system either. In these cases, knowing what $$RANDOM_TOOL

Re: [gentoo-user] evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 April 2013, at 02:12, Joseph wrote: > ... > I have uninstalled cups-pdf and when I go any program "print" there is still > option: "Print to file" except that now 'Save to folder" by default is empty > field, before if I remember was a user home directory. Well, I would have assumed that

[gentoo-user] Re: evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-18 Thread Hartmut Figge
Joseph: >When I try to print from "evince" to pdf file I get an error: > >Error printing - Operation not supported I have tried that with evince 2.32.0-r4 and got the same error. After starting evince from a xterm with 'evince example.pdf' and choosing File->Print... 'Output Format [x] PDF' was c