On 31/08/2016 02:08, Grant wrote:
And why use exfat if you use linux? It is just not needed at all.
>>>
>>> I agree. If you want to transport something between Linux systems,
>>> use ext2/3 and use "mount" options to handle the permission issues.
>>
>> You can't control ownership and permissi
>> > And why use exfat if you use linux? It is just not needed at all.
>>
>> I agree. If you want to transport something between Linux systems,
>> use ext2/3 and use "mount" options to handle the permission issues.
>
> You can't control ownership and permissions of existing files with mount
> opti
On 31/08/2016 01:06, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2016-08-30, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:42:05 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
>>
And why use exfat if you use linux? It is just not needed at all.
>>>
>>> I agree. If you want to transport something between Linux systems,
On 2016-08-30, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:42:05 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> > And why use exfat if you use linux? It is just not needed at all.
>>
>> I agree. If you want to transport something between Linux systems,
>> use ext2/3 and use "mount" options to handle
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:42:05 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
> > And why use exfat if you use linux? It is just not needed at all.
>
> I agree. If you want to transport something between Linux systems,
> use ext2/3 and use "mount" options to handle the permission issues.
You can't control o
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:32:19 -0700, Grant wrote:
> If I use ext2 on the USB stick, can I mount and use it as any user on
> any Gentoo system from within a file manager like thunar?
No, because ext2 uses proper Linux file permissions.
> Should I consider ext3/4 with journaling disabled?
That's
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:12:12 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> OP is looking for an fs to put on a memory stick that will work
> >> everywhere:
> >>
> >> - vfat
> >> - exfat
> >
> > He asked for something that would work "across Gentoo systems".
> >
> >
>
> How does exfat not fulfil that?
It
Also of note is that the bopm confug uses blacklists other than njabl which
are still active.
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 07:29:35 PM Raymond Jennings wrote:
> > I still use bopm, and it built fine last time I emerged it.
> >
> > If hopm isn't in the tree yet, why was bopm still pmasked for removal?
> >
> > Reason for asking is I'm cu
Am 30.08.2016 um 23:59 schrieb Rich Freeman:
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
> wrote:
>> the journal does not add any data integrity benefits at all. It just
>> makes it more likely that the fs is in a sane state if there is a crash.
>> Likely. Not a guarantee. Your data? N
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
>
> the journal does not add any data integrity benefits at all. It just
> makes it more likely that the fs is in a sane state if there is a crash.
> Likely. Not a guarantee. Your data? No one cares.
>
That depends on the mode of operat
On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 15:30:51 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 13:38:13 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 11:56:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 12:06:43 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > > You should elaborate more and be specific on what you mean
Am 30.08.2016 um 22:46 schrieb Rich Freeman:
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Grant Edwards
> wrote:
>> There's nothing in Gentoo that guarantees everybody has ext2 support
>> in their kernels. That said, I agree that ext2 (or perhaps ext3 with
>> journalling disabled -- I've always been a bit
Am 30.08.2016 um 22:32 schrieb Grant:
ext2 doesn't have a journal, that's why I suggested it in the
first
> place.
My point was against all the journalised filesystems (that
includes
NTFS), not against your advice ;)
>>> OP is looking for an
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Grant Edwards
wrote:
>
> There's nothing in Gentoo that guarantees everybody has ext2 support
> in their kernels. That said, I agree that ext2 (or perhaps ext3 with
> journalling disabled -- I've always been a bit fuzzy on whether that's
> exactly the same thing o
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Grant wrote:
>>
>> ext2 is on every system, exfat not. ext2 is very stable, tested and well
>> aged. exfat is some fuse something crap. New, hardly tested and unstable
>> as it gets.
>>
>
> If I use ext2 on the USB stick, can I mount and use it as any user on
> any
On 2016-08-30, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> ext2 is on every system,
Unless it isn't.
There's nothing in Gentoo that guarantees everybody has ext2 support
in their kernels. That said, I agree that ext2 (or perhaps ext3 with
journalling disabled -- I've always been a bit fuzzy on whether that'
>>> ext2 doesn't have a journal, that's why I suggested it in the
>>> first
place.
>>> My point was against all the journalised filesystems (that
>>> includes
>>> NTFS), not against your advice ;)
>>>
>>
>> OP is looking for an fs to put on a memory stick that will
Am 30.08.2016 um 21:14 schrieb J. Roeleveld:
> On August 30, 2016 8:58:17 PM GMT+02:00, Volker Armin Hemmann
> wrote:
>> Am 30.08.2016 um 20:12 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
>>> On 30/08/2016 14:04, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 12:08:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> ext2 does
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Grant wrote:
> I decided to copy a 10GB file from a USB hard disk directly to the USB
> stick this morning and I ran into errors so I canceled the operation
> and now the file manager (thunar) has been stuck for well over an hour
> and I'm getting errors like these
On August 30, 2016 8:58:17 PM GMT+02:00, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
>Am 30.08.2016 um 20:12 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
>> On 30/08/2016 14:04, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 12:08:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>>
>> ext2 doesn't have a journal, that's why I suggested it in the
>f
Am 30.08.2016 um 20:12 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> On 30/08/2016 14:04, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 12:08:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
> ext2 doesn't have a journal, that's why I suggested it in the first
> place.
My point was against all the journalised filesyst
On 30/08/2016 12:56, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 12:06:43 Alan McKinnon wrote:
You should elaborate more and be specific on what you mean by "The
reason is an intermittent series of apparently unrelated things going
wrong."
Here's one then: In KMail (yes, I know*) the folder
On 30/08/2016 14:04, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 12:08:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
ext2 doesn't have a journal, that's why I suggested it in the first
place.
My point was against all the journalised filesystems (that includes
NTFS), not against your advice ;)
OP is looking
On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 13:38:13 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 11:56:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 12:06:43 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > You should elaborate more and be specific on what you mean by "The
> > > reason is an intermittent series of apparently
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2016-08-30, Raffaele BELARDI wrote:
>
>> If dumping a single X window is sufficient there is also x11-apps/xwd,
>> which I use together with convert from imagemagik:
>>
>> $ /usr/bin/xwd | convert - screenshot.png
>
> That seems a bit redundant. If you have imagemagick,
On 2016-08-30, Raffaele BELARDI wrote:
> If dumping a single X window is sufficient there is also x11-apps/xwd,
> which I use together with convert from imagemagik:
>
> $ /usr/bin/xwd | convert - screenshot.png
That seems a bit redundant. If you have imagemagick, just use
'import':
$ import
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:35 AM, Azamat Hackimov
wrote:
>
> I would recommend to use F2FS filesystem, since you have only Linux systems.
>
As a user of immature filesystems, I would not recommend F2FS unless
you want to be a user of immature filesystems. Remember how he got
into this situation i
On Monday, August 29, 2016 05:10:37 PM Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 08/29/2016 03:39 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> > On 08/29/2016 06:10 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> What replaces it's functionality, or what is now in the codebase that
> >> guarantees the problems python-updater fixed can't happen anym
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 12:08:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> ext2 doesn't have a journal, that's why I suggested it in the first
> >> place.
> >
> > My point was against all the journalised filesystems (that includes
> > NTFS), not against your advice ;)
> >
>
>
> OP is looking for an fs
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 11:43:13 +0200, Alarig Le Lay wrote:
> On Tue Aug 30 10:40:01 2016, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > ext2 doesn't have a journal, that's why I suggested it in the first
> > place.
>
> My point was against all the journalised filesystems (that includes
> NTFS), not against your advic
On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 11:56:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 12:06:43 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > You should elaborate more and be specific on what you mean by "The
> > reason is an intermittent series of apparently unrelated things going
> > wrong."
>
> Here's one then: In
On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 11:56:50 I wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 12:06:43 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > You should elaborate more and be specific on what you mean by "The
> > reason is an intermittent series of apparently unrelated things going
> > wrong."
>
> Here's one then: In KMail (yes, I know) t
On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 12:06:43 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> You should elaborate more and be specific on what you mean by "The
> reason is an intermittent series of apparently unrelated things going
> wrong."
Here's one then: In KMail (yes, I know*) the folder list contains an item
"trash" (ugh!), bu
On 30/08/2016 11:43, Alarig Le Lay wrote:
> On Tue Aug 30 10:40:01 2016, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> ext2 doesn't have a journal, that's why I suggested it in the first place.
>
> My point was against all the journalised filesystems (that includes
> NTFS), not against your advice ;)
>
OP is looking
On 30/08/2016 11:25, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 00:07:53 Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
>> Don't forget that @system only lives in a context, and the context is a
>> real computer.
>>
>> Out of context it's just a list of strings. In context, it's strings
>> that means packages, with d
On Tue Aug 30 10:40:01 2016, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> ext2 doesn't have a journal, that's why I suggested it in the first place.
My point was against all the journalised filesystems (that includes
NTFS), not against your advice ;)
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On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 10:29:00 +0200, Alarig Le Lay wrote:
> > So I'm done with NTFS forever. Will ext2 somehow allow me to use the
> > USB stick across Gentoo systems without permission/ownership
> > problems?
>
> I always use pmount for USB and other flash devices to have it
> mounted with my
On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 00:07:53 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Don't forget that @system only lives in a context, and the context is a
> real computer.
>
> Out of context it's just a list of strings. In context, it's strings
> that means packages, with deps and everything else that needs to be
> built fo
Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
> Would it be sensible to use the 44 packages in that @system as a new
> set @sysbase on the main system, or would I miss something important?
Actually, this set is even _larger_ than the @system set which
I got from combining both profiles
default/linux/amd64/13.0/desk
On Mon Aug 29 17:51:19 2016, Grant wrote:
> So I'm done with NTFS forever. Will ext2 somehow allow me to use the
> USB stick across Gentoo systems without permission/ownership problems?
I always use pmount for USB and other flash devices to have it
mounted with my user permissions at all times.
A
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 08:34:55 +0200, Kai Krakow wrote:
> Surprise surprise, 4.7 has this (still not fully fixed) oom-killer bug.
> When I'm running virtual machines, it still kicks in. I wanted to stay
> on 4.6.x until 4.8 is released, and only then switch to 4.7. Now I was
> forced early (I'm usin
On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 17:51:19 -0700, Grant wrote:
> # ddrescue -d -r3 /dev/sdb usb.img usb.log
> [...]
> Ah, I got it, I just needed to specify the offset when mounting.
Tht's because you ran ddrescue on the whole stick and not the partition
containing the filesystem.
> Thank you so much everyone
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 06:46:54 +0100, Mick wrote:
> > So I'm done with NTFS forever. Will ext2 somehow allow me to use the
> > USB stick across Gentoo systems without permission/ownership problems?
> >
> > - Grant
>
> ext2 will work, but you'll have to mount it or chmod -R 0777, or only
> root
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