Re: [gentoo-user] bitcoin-qt, openssl and the bindist USE flag

2017-04-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
Set that flag in package.use for the packages where you want it to be set. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Something eats my memory - please help

2017-04-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
un top and sort on the memory columns (just take the left-most memory-related column with a big bag of salt, it doesn't show what people usually think). Then correlate that with packages you recently updated. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox occasionally stalls

2017-03-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 21/03/2017 21:50, Kai Krakow wrote: > Am Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:35:36 +0200 > schrieb Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com>: > >> This post is rather vague, sorry about that in advance. >> >> I've spent much time on this and gotten absolutely nowhere.

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU flags unsatisfied

2017-03-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
t by default see an error on-screen, not actually think for yourself, and dump a paste to gentoo-user expecting everyone here to do your thinking for you? Seriously, this is getting tiresome. I hope you are not being paid wages to work these Gentoo machine(s). -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] How to thin package.provided ?

2017-03-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
ther spend your time writing a local ebuild in an overlay than conjuring up invisible magic scripts that are certain to break into millions of shiny pieces -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] eix-test-obsolete

2017-03-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
user is not your personal Google clone or a quasi-brain you can tap for any answer without doing some thinking of your own A simple eix nano would have told you everything: It's in section "installed packages not in database" Latest stable nano is 2.6.3. You have 2.3.1-r2 -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] After sdcard failure / filesystem corruption...out pf pure curiosity...

2017-03-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
you have several backups -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Still struggling with starting X and enlightenment desktop

2017-03-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/03/2017 01:24, Mick wrote: On Saturday 25 Mar 2017 21:08:14 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 25/03/2017 18:23, Mick wrote: After years of running KDM to start various desktop environments flawlessly (KDE, fluxbox, enlightenment, plasma) I had to replace it with SDDM. With the arrival of x11-misc

Re: [gentoo-user] Few blockers left

2017-03-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/03/2017 16:37, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: On 03/25/2017 03:00 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 25/03/2017 09:49, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: I'm upgrading my last system and have few blockers left: Those are not blockers. The part of emerge output above this, the bit you snipped out

Re: [gentoo-user] Few blockers left

2017-03-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
duled for merge) causes rebuilds for: (media-libs/mesa-12.0.1:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=sys-libs/ncurses-5.2-r2:0/5=[unicode]" have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r5::gentoo (masked by: ) (dependency required by "sys-apps/util-linux-2.26.2::gentoo" [installed]) (dependency required by "@__auto_slot_operator_replace_installed__" [argument]) Going back to older "udev" makes no sense. -- Thelma -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Still struggling with starting X and enlightenment desktop

2017-03-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
query size sddm * x11-misc/sddm-0.14.0-r2 Total files : 192 Total size : 4.78 MiB The on that works is smaller and lighter than the one that doesn't. I say dump sddm and stick with lightdm which works :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange IPv6 behaviour

2017-03-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
forever -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Few blockers left

2017-03-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
mysql -acl \ java tiff jpeg png usb fbdev scanner gimp cgi fam nplt type1 opengl tetex \ dbus policykit spell -systemd" -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] I'm using mariadb or mysql?

2017-03-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 23/03/2017 19:28, Cogumelos Maravilha wrote: Hi list, Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libuv-1.10.2 USE="-static-libs" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" [ebuild U ] dev-util/cmake-3.7.2 [3.2.2] [ebuild U ] dev-db/mariadb-10.0.30 [10.0.19] USE="openssl%*

Re: [gentoo-user] Network device polling -> web interface

2017-03-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/03/2017 03:10, Adam Carter wrote: Hi All, Looking for a software recommendation. I want to be able to supply a list of IPs and SNMP community strings as input, then store the query results (eg interface info, route tables etc) in a database with a web interface. WIll be <100 devices.

Re: [gentoo-user] bashrc in console

2017-03-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
rtup files what you probably assume it does. Read it, read it again, read it three times. Read and understand what is actually there. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] cron tab

2017-03-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
3rd day of the month happen Monday to Friday -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox occasionally stalls

2017-03-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
and found it overall the best for an interactive desktop with a DE. I haven't repeated those tests since, has there been significant changes in this are last year or three? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox occasionally stalls

2017-03-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
. He's happy to learn python (useful), learn ansible (very useful) but not chrome as the everyday browser (meh) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox occasionally stalls

2017-03-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 21/03/2017 22:04, J. Roeleveld wrote: On March 21, 2017 8:35:36 PM GMT+01:00, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: This post is rather vague, sorry about that in advance. I've spent much time on this and gotten absolutely nowhere. So I conclude all my thoughts and assum

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox occasionally stalls

2017-03-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 21/03/2017 21:57, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: This post is rather vague, sorry about that in advance. I've spent much time on this and gotten absolutely nowhere. So I conclude all my thoughts and assumptions are wrong and not worth even sharing (on account of them being so wrong). I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox occasionally stalls

2017-03-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 21/03/2017 21:50, Kai Krakow wrote: Am Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:35:36 +0200 schrieb Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com>: This post is rather vague, sorry about that in advance. I've spent much time on this and gotten absolutely nowhere. So I conclude all my thoughts and assum

[gentoo-user] Firefox occasionally stalls

2017-03-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
cent upgrade, I've been battling with this for ages through MANY kde and firefox updates. My question: Where the hell do I start to figure out what's really going on? I used up all my sysadmin troubleshooting knowledge and have had to revert back to n00b status on this one. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] losing network IP address

2017-03-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
address. This is the only box that is giving me a problem. How to trouble shoot it? I brought the small box and connected to my home network but I can not repeat the behaviour. The solution is in your logs. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Has someone managed to compile nvidia-drivers against a 4.10.*-Linux-kernel?

2017-03-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
with 4.10 support 4.10 is still very new and you are most unlikely to absolutely require it. Patience young padawan, patience. The universe is not instant coffee, you don't just add water right now. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Wiping the old root without killing the new root

2017-03-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/03/2017 02:55, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > On 03/17 11:20, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Friday 17 Mar 2017 19:10:03 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> As Grant said, we don't really know what you are up to from the given >>> information. >> >> In particular,

Re: [gentoo-user] Wiping the old root without killing the new root

2017-03-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Grant said, we don't really know what you are up to from the given information. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] modules-load restart

2017-03-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
-load restart > does not restart the module. > > Do I need to restart the box, this procedure work on a different box > without restart. > What is the correct module name? It does not have to match the file name. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Borked network connections on KDE apps (ftp, fish)

2017-03-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
(dev-libs/libev-4.23) > 1489518628: >>> unmerge success: dev-libs/libev-4.23 > 1489518628: *** exiting successfully. > 1489518629: *** terminating. > > On another box I did not notice this behaviour, but there are some > differences > between them in terms of applications installed. Both have the same portage > profile: > > default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/plasma > > Is it a matter of waiting for a while for the new KDE apps to move into > stable, or should I be reinstalling some of the above packages? Make this box's world, USE, masks etc the same as that box Next version might fix things but that's likely very wishful thinking. More likely portage took away something you need because you didn't say to keep it -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] locate can not find a file

2017-03-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
elps :-/ > > ...If --regex is not specified, PATTERNs can contain globbing > characters. If any PATTERN contains no globbing characters, locate > behaves as if the pattern were *PATTERN*. And none of that matters as the shell will expand the globs before locate even sees it at all. Unless you go to extra measures with quotes. But the whole exercise is completely unnecessary as locate by default does partial matches. This always does what you want: locate consent_extraction -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get rid of binutils 'preserved libs' warning

2017-03-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/03/2017 19:51, Willie M wrote: > On 03/14/2017 09:52 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 14/03/2017 17:45, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> After I do an update, I get this message: >>> >>> !!! existing preserved libs: >>> >>> package: sys-libs/b

Re: [gentoo-user] some capital B blockers in world update

2017-03-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/03/2017 19:00, allan gottlieb wrote: > On Tue, Mar 14 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 14/03/2017 16:43, allan gottlieb wrote: >>> I update roughly twice a week. On one machine (full output below) I was >>> told that libinput and evdev are blocking

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How am I supposed to block the KDE update?

2017-03-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/03/2017 19:05, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 03/14/2017 06:34 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Eek. That's not nice. You have masked frameworks-5.32.0 and plasma-5.9.3 >> packages (presumably you got all of them), and you missed something in >> the huge chain that need

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get rid of binutils 'preserved libs' warning

2017-03-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
- manually untar both quickpkg archives to their original location. Now you have all your tools back, without the package metadata to confuse portage - emerge both packages, ignoring the expected file collision errors. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] some capital B blockers in world update

2017-03-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
ot; > [nomerge ] net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.14.5 > [nomerge ] x11-libs/libnotify-0.7.6-r3 > [nomerge ] virtual/notification-daemon-0 > [nomerge ]gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.20.4 > [nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.20.2-r1 > [nomerge ] net-misc/networkmanager-1.4.4-r1 > [nomerge ] net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-2.6 > [nomerge ]net-wireless/crda-3.18-r1 > [ebuild U ] net-wireless/wireless-regdb-20170307 [20160610] > [nomerge ] sys-devel/binutils-2.26.1 [2.25.1-r1] USE="cxx nls > -multitarget -static-libs {-test} -vanilla" > [ebuild U ] sys-devel/binutils-config-5-r3 [5-r2] > [blocks B ] (" x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.19) > [blocks B ] (" x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.19) > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] How am I supposed to block the KDE update?

2017-03-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
p breakage is fixed :-) I'd say it's just not worth the effort (unless someone else posts a proper list they already worked out). Probably *much* easier to deal with frameworks breaking your desktop in the first sentence. Would you be OK to deal with that rather than try the masking route? What's the breakage you mention? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge @system causing gcc downgrade

2017-03-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
ne: > [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.9.4 > > I *think*, that with little time and patience, I can now sort this out. > Thanks for the emerge -e hint. It doesn't seem to be in the emerge man > page, though. What is the long-option name? I'm too lazy to look it up myself and long ago st

Re: [gentoo-user] How to update a system if some packages can't be updated

2017-03-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
doesn't work, depending on what > packages depend on something that needs to be updated first. Also, > sometimes --skipfirst comes in handy. Helmut's question looks like emerge fails to make a list of stuff to compile due to hard blocks. Not a compile failure. So --keep-going won't work -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge @system causing gcc downgrade

2017-03-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
r package is selected for merging. > > Why??? What command line can I give to show why a new slot is being > pulled in? > (I wouldn't particularly mind, but as I am on an old x86 celeron, this > will take hours to complete, for no obvious benefit...) > > Thanks > Phil >

Re: [gentoo-user] Rear & Genkernel

2017-03-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
e calling it. It's just a file and the only thing the bootloader cares about is if it can find it. Therefore rear is out of step, and rear needs to be patched > > Cheers, > Phil > > On 6 March 2017 at 22:25, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com > <mailto:alan.mckin...@

Re: [gentoo-user] Rear & Genkernel

2017-03-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
ild, then you have a bug to be reported to b.g.o. If you installed from git outside of portage, the you get to patch rear yourself Or, perhaps a third option. Does rear have a config file where you can define the naming template for the kernel used? (I don't use rear and can't be bothered g

Re: [gentoo-user] No room left on /boot

2017-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/03/2017 01:35, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 03/05/2017 03:19 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 05/03/2017 23:33, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> After upgrading my machine. I rebooted, everything went as planned. >>> So I decided to upgrade to a newer kern

Re: [gentoo-user] No room left on /boot

2017-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
is possible to grow /boot. I have done it many times. It is tedious, boring and usually takes about 3 days longer than I have time to spare and involves me using all spare samba shares and portable drives I have Considering your general state of knowledge and the sort of mistakes you are making, I would advise you to backup your world file and /etc/portage. Then trash that VM and start over, this time making sensible choices about things like space for /boot -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Gpgme oddity

2017-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
get over it now and move on? If you want reparations, you are of course entitled to claim your 100% money back guarantee that never expires. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Gpgme oddity

2017-03-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/03/2017 18:30, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 04 Mar 2017 14:59:51 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> ... It's a ~arch package, so you get to be a field tester when you use it >> :-) > > As Marc said, it isn't. But I'm incredulous that gpgme wasn't tested on a > sta

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I install slotted guile

2017-03-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
SLOTting packages is trying is you don't know how to do it, I'd advise not doing that. Your best bet is to install one version from source into /usr/local/, then find all the ways your system uses guile and take steps to always correctly identify the correct one. Another option is to find a way t

Re: [gentoo-user] Gpgme oddity

2017-03-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/03/2017 14:33, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 04 Mar 2017 12:42:38 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 04/03/2017 11:45, Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> Greetings. >>> >>> This is a KDE ~amd64 box, which still depends on kde-apps/kdepimlibs:4 >>> for m

Re: [gentoo-user] gpgme update and kdepimlibs-4.14.11_pre20160211 blocker

2017-03-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/03/2017 13:02, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 04 Mar 2017 12:41:48 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 04/03/2017 11:50, Mick wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> This morning's attempt to update a no-multilib PC brought up this >>> conflict: >>> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Gpgme oddity

2017-03-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
s it even possible to satisfy that condition? > No, but you can mask app-crypt/gpgme-1.8.0-r2 and stay on 1.5/1.6 -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] gpgme update and kdepimlibs-4.14.11_pre20160211 blocker

2017-03-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
done anymore. kdepim-4 users need to know this, and there is a non-zero chance that that day may be today -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] ifconfig - display/list hostname with IP address

2017-03-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/03/2017 23:31, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 03/02/2017 02:11 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 02/03/2017 22:57, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> running "ifconfig" is it possible to display hostname, especially with >>> "tun" interface

Re: [gentoo-user] ifconfig - display/list hostname with IP address

2017-03-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
looking at ifconfig at all (don't you know your own addresses?) And finally the relationship between address and names is many<->many, so which one you gonna use? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Its ground hog day... how to escape the syndrome?

2017-03-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
ly all or all of the packages rebuilt > during During the @system run were to be done over again under a @world > run, @world includes @system > > Surely there can be no reason for this absent some other factor like > new or changed use flags. > > So what causes this Groundhog day syndrome and how does one break out > of it? emerge -avuND -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-lang/php-5.6

2017-02-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
a programmer. > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] SHA-1 has just been broken

2017-02-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
le >> for end users, but I didn't get any replies: >> > > This is something I was concerned about myself, especially since the > bare git protocol that most users access the repository from, even if > it is the repository hosted by the Gentoo Foundation, is insecure. Git > access via SSH or HTTPS *is* secure but is not implemented - I'm not > sure why, as they've purchased a "real" certificate and the Git > subdomain may already be covered by it. I always though git's use of SHA hashes was to identify commits and detect random bit flips, not to provide any measure of security. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner

2017-02-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/02/2017 23:46, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 02/24/2017 02:28 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 24/02/2017 23:25, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> I've a Brother scanner ADS-2400N connected via network port. >>> >>> - I edit: /etc/sane.d/saned.conf (

Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner

2017-02-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
scanner is detected. > > What am I missing? Maybe that you are using a Red Hat package manager on a Gentoo machine? Or that you wanted to ask fedora-user and sent it to gentoo-user by mistake? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Collision between app-arch/lrzip and net-dialup/lrzsz

2017-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
eful. > Is there a gentle way out of this collision or is > this a typical Highlander situation? that's a bug and it needs reporting. Meanwhile you could rename the files for the package you intend to use less, that will let the other package install. But it's a very temporary workaround -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: virtualbox-guest-additions

2017-02-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/02/2017 22:42, Harry Putnam wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> writes: > >> On 18/02/2017 00:08, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> Are the virtualbox-guest-additions on portage for folks who are >>> running VirtualBox vms on there gentoo OS? >

Re: [gentoo-user] media-plugins/gst-plugins-ffmpeg-0.10.13_p201211-r5 won't compile

2017-02-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
d. >> >> The new version of ffmpeg deprecates the old gstreamer plugins, so these >> need to be removed. > > When I do this I get > media-plugins/gst-plugins-ffmpeg-0.10.13_p201211-r3 pulled in by: > media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r8 requires > media-plugins/gst-plugins-ffmpeg:0.10 > > How to fix this? > > What is pulling in gst-plugins-meta? Is it in world and SLOTted? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] ffmpeg and libav: a slot conflict

2017-02-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
o the Gentoo Handbook. >>> >>> $ equery d gst-plugins-libav >>> * These packages depend on gst-plugins-libav: >>> media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-1.8.3 (ffmpeg ? >>>> =media-plugins/gst-plugins-libav-1.8.3:1.0[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_ppc_32(-)?,abi_ppc_64(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?]) >>>> >>> www-client/firefox-45.7.0 (gstreamer ? >>>> =media-plugins/gst-plugins-libav-1.4.5:1.0) >>> What shall I do to solve this dependency conflict? >>> >>> Does it mean that I should use -gstreamer use flag while compiling firefox? >>> >>> Will it be possible to see youtube videos in FF, if I compile it >>> without gstreamer? >>> >> I think the problem is that you don't allow chromium to be rebuilt, >> because all your blocking packages depend on the installed slot >> (indicated by the '=') and need to be rebuilt in case ffmpeg is upgraded. >> So, if you don't exclude chromium ffmpeg should be upgraded and the >> blocking packages rebuilt/upgraded. > > Yes, you are right: with chromium everything started to compile without > dependency conflicts. But chromium takes more than 8 hours on my computer > to compile. :( > > unfortunately chromium is one of those packages you cannot exclude and expect to get away with it every time. Also firefox, icu, boost/boostbuild, anything that's video player. And a few other bits that have dep DEPENDs -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] To emerge openbox or gparted...that is the question...(William Tuxpeare)

2017-02-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
─── >> foo[bar?] bar? ( foo[bar] ) !bar? ( foo ) >> foo[!bar?] bar? ( foo ) !bar? ( foo[-bar] ) >> foo[bar=] bar? ( foo[bar] ) !bar? ( foo[-bar] ) >> foo[!bar=] bar? ( foo[-bar] ) !bar? ( foo[bar] ) >> >> So you must have the X use flag enabled for pango but disabled for >> cairomm. Try enabling it for cairomm and all should be fine. >> >> Regards >> Johannes >> > > Hi Alan, hi Johannes, > > thanks for all your help! > "I am over 30...please help me to gentoo..." > ;) > > Will take a deeper look into the few use-flags I set by hand. Do you have "-*" in USE ? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] To emerge openbox or gparted...that is the question...(William Tuxpeare)

2017-02-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
combination of USE flags in their deps (cairo, pango, gtkmm, etc) that wants X off for one and on for another. Check your USE for all of those deps, especially USE=X. The problem setting is most likely to be in package.use -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox-guest-additions

2017-02-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
All I'm trying to ask is if you are installing a vbox vm with gentoo > os in a non-gentoo host are you expected to install the > guest-additions thru portage. You install virtualbox-guest-additions on a Gentoo guest VM. What is running on the host is irrelevant -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] After KDE5 install massive depclean list

2017-02-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
g the plasma SLOTs. If your world file is in good condition I recommend you let portage clean what it wants to. In the unlikely evnt the devs missed something, you can always emerge a missing package or two back. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] command line decipher

2017-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
show do anything useful? if so, do the subsequent greps and cuts do what you want? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - pulled IN "can not win" :-/

2017-02-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
o fix this blockage? ALWAYS run emerge with -t option and the output will give the answer you seek. Most replies on this list will ask you do it, so just get in the habit of doing it yourself -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Dependecy problem: PortgreSQL twice

2017-02-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/02/2017 13:49, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > On Thursday, 09. Feb 2017, 12:24:52 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 09/02/2017 11:52, Bertram Scharpf wrote: >>> On Thursday, 09. Feb 2017, 00:35:05 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>>> On Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:52:5

Re: [gentoo-user] Dependecy problem: PortgreSQL twice

2017-02-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
erge these packages? [Yes/No] >>> >>> How can I find out why this happens? >> >> Add --tree to you emerge invocation. > > There seems to be no dependency at all!? That usually means you have the package in your world file -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I run a 32-bit CentOS chroot on a 64-bit Gentoo host?

2017-02-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
iled to run command '/bin/bash': Exec format error > > The error is usually due to stuff like trying to run 32-bit code in a > 64-bit environment. > Will it run busybox as the shell? That's usually static and may work. sh is unlikely to work though, on red hat and derivatives it's usually a symlink to bash :-( -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] AMDGPU

2017-02-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
may not be alien but not done this before so curious. As far as I know the blob is firmware, not driver so the answer is yes, you will always need the firmware. The firmware does not have to be built into the kernel if you use modules, it can be loaded from userspace. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] rdate -s timeout for 129.6.15.28

2017-02-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
ps). >> >> I was referring to NTP the protocol (which is what chrony speaks), not >> NTP the software. > > I think my DD-WRT router is runnint NTP server. > Is it possible to update the time from the rounter? yes, just point your local ntp t the router address. Make sure it's listening. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] ERROR: x11-drivers/xf86-video-virtualbox-5.0.32::gentoo failed (compile phase): emake failed

2017-02-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
oc/heapsimple.o > *** Exiting with status 2 > ERROR: x11-drivers/xf86-video-virtualbox-5.0.32::gentoo failed (compile > phase): ^ This is what is failing, not virtualbox-guest-additions Try downgrade those drivers -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] nx / nxclient - replacement

2017-02-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/02/2017 21:55, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 02/06/2017 12:25 PM, Poncho wrote: >> On 06.02.2017 19:06, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On 06/02/2017 12:41, Poncho wrote: >>>> On 06.02.2017 08:53, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>>>> Are there any

Re: [gentoo-user] nx / nxclient - replacement

2017-02-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/02/2017 21:25, Poncho wrote: > On 06.02.2017 19:06, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 06/02/2017 12:41, Poncho wrote: >>> On 06.02.2017 08:53, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>>> Are there any good replacement for "nx / nxclient" in Linux? >>>> NX

Re: [gentoo-user] Reversing a .../files/*.patch as user patch?

2017-02-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/02/2017 20:12, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> [17-02-06 19:08]: >> On 06/02/2017 19:09, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> While compiling my new root, it fails again. >>> >>> Here is th

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing python binding?

2017-02-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/02/2017 20:41, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 02/06/2017 10:22 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 05/02/2017 21:50, Daniel Frey wrote: >>> I am trying magick-rotation to see if it will work on my Surface Pro 3 >>> (they tested in on a Surface Pro 2 and it was working,

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing python binding?

2017-02-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
gt; [IP-] [ ] dev-python/pygtk-2.24.0-r4:2 > > I've also tried rebuilding it, still no worky. > > Anyone know how to solve this? > > Dan > The module is in /usr/share/magick-rotation/gui_gtk.py You need to read /usr/share/doc/magick-rotation-${PV}/INSTALLER.txt See he

Re: [gentoo-user] nx / nxclient - replacement

2017-02-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
the info doesn't tell me much. telepathy is an instant messaging framework, the successor to Kopete from KDE webkit is ... web rendering stuff. Hard to tell what it means in context of rdp zeroconf is avahi, mdnsresponder, config-less networking. All implementations of the same idea ayatana is a notification framework. If you have it, remmina uses it for notifications -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] nx / nxclient - replacement

2017-02-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
s with that at work (Mint clients) so couldn't use remmina with plain RDP. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Reversing a .../files/*.patch as user patch?

2017-02-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
ild won't be used anymore. [I have to use this trick with several python apps I use and need modified. It works well as long as I remember I've done it :-) ] -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] New Installation

2017-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/02/2017 17:56, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 04 Feb 2017 17:32:53 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Modern kernels DO get nervous if they have no swap at all - it's used >> internally. So make a small amount of swap to make the kernel happy, say >> 64M or so. Yes,

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server / apache

2017-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
os-4.2.4 if you want, but that will cause a problem as it's the only nagios version in the tree. Do you have an overlay enabled that provides nagios-3? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] New Installation

2017-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/02/2017 18:12, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Size of swap is the classic cargo-cult question, > > ++ > >> >> Modern kernels DO get nervous if they have no swap at a

Re: [gentoo-user] New Installation

2017-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
e had back then and 32M is read back from an MFM drive fast enough that the user doesn't get impatient waiting. I'm not making this up! Move forward to the present day. What happens when you run out of RAM? You get an out-of-memory error that a decent app will handle gracefully. What happens when you have swap and run out of RAM? The kernel starts to use disk, and goes krunch krunch krunch very slowly for quite a while, and then you get an out-of-memory error that a decent app will handle gracefully... Plus usually when an app starts thrashing to disk, the kernel starts to struggle mightily and a runaway process starts where slow access causes more things to swap, which makes even more swap, and then the system runs out of memory anyway So why are you using swap at all these days with 16G being common? Do people have any concept how much memory that is, and what it takes to fill it? (I've only managed to achieve that with dodgy flash apps on dodgy sites...) My advice is to not use swap. Yes, it is counter-intuitive and yes it goes against the advice you see all over the internet from 1996, and many people will swear blind that twice ram is perfect ad are terrified to say otherwise because then they will have been wrong. But I can show that the advice is cargo-culted and I can show that no-one can defend that advice. The solution to running out of memory is to get more RAM (or fix the app that leaks). Modern kernels DO get nervous if they have no swap at all - it's used internally. So make a small amount of swap to make the kernel happy, say 64M or so. Yes, megs. And if your machine sleeps to disk you will need swap large enough to store the memory image - it has to go somewhere and that is swap. That's my advice. Now let the nay-sayers begin the argument -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Disable Gentoo branding on KDE?

2017-02-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
> And this is the launcher icon: >>> >>> http://i.imgur.com/UyGlgLK.png >>> >>> AFAIK, this is the Gentoo logo. >>> >> >> That appears to be upstream's new icon for that: >> >> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.9/plasma-5.9.png > > Oh, wow. So KDE uses an icon that is exactly the same as Gentoo's. > > Well, never mind then. > > More like that IS the upstream icon, and you haven't realised yet it's not Gentoo branding -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Incredible Attack from Mars! Emerge monsters towards earth to strike again!

2017-01-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
ing to tell me. > By far my marsian isn't that good as my english...and take a look how > horrible THAT is... ;) > > Who tals marsian and is willing to translate ;) Your python targets seems off. Remove all occurences of python targets and python single targets in make.conf, leave the decision to portage and the profile. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] How often do you reboot?

2017-01-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
1000 days uptime these days is stupid. All it proves is that the admin is not doing kernel updates and the host probably leaks security holes like a sieve -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrading 1-year old system

2017-01-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/01/2017 23:40, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > On 01/30/2017 02:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 30/01/2017 22:57, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> grub:0 doesn't have a multislot USE flag, only grub:0 does > > Thank Alan, I just blocked off grub all t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrading 1-year old system

2017-01-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
;>> sys-boot/grub-2.02_beta3-r1) >> >> You probably need to set the 'multislot' use flag for grub. > > I don't use grub-2. > I think I will need to install grub-0.97-r16 > and reinstall it gain. either mask grub:2 or explicitly enable grub:0 only. Edit your world file

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading 1-year old system

2017-01-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
a bit by not using -v > > NOTE: Use the '--verbose-conflicts' option to display parents omitted above > > > * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be > * installed at the same time on the same system. > > (sys-boot/grub-0.97-r16:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > sys-boot/grub:0 required by @selected > > (sys-boot/grub-2.02_beta3-r1:2/2.02_beta3-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > merge) pulled in by > sys-boot/grub required by @selected > > -- > Thelma > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

2017-01-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/01/2017 17:15, Corbin Bird wrote: > > On 01/30/2017 08:56 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote: >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500, >>> Alan McKinnon wrote: >> [snip] >> >> >>> But I found binutil

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

2017-01-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/01/2017 17:14, John Covici wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:56:29 -0500, > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote: >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500, >>> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>>> >> >> [snip] >>

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

2017-01-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500, > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> [snip] > But I found binutils-config and just switched from 2.25-r1 to 2.27, so > I will see what happens. > So, after removing the old versions of binutils, the preser

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with gdbus-codegen

2017-01-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
ean up blocks from deleted files, nuke the metadata and return the blocks to the unallocated pool. This is an expensive operation on SSDs which is why they are delayed. In theory you could even leave the disk untrim'med until you need the space :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

2017-01-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
quot;old stuff" IUf you have other versions' cruft still lying around in /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/, then move that junk out the way and try again. It's very likely dynamic runtime nonsense that depclean didn't know about -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading 1-year old system

2017-01-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
hasn't stated whether he actually uses KDE, though.) KDE isn't IN @system, but gets pulled in if you use --update --deep However, there's a way out. @system is a defined set of packages (about 50 or so), not a list of stuff plus all it's deps. So do this: emerge @system That should keep everything except the list of system packages out of the dep graph -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading 1-year old system

2017-01-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
ve dealt with java-config-wrapper, mariadb and ruby, try emerge world again. You will be presented with a whole new bunch of interesting and fascinating problems to solve, all of which are unique and needs their own approach. The approach depends of course on the nature of the problem and you have to run emerge world to see what that is. Rinse, repeat and keep doing it till portage is happy, your tree is synced and no problems remain. [You will probably need to deal with perl-cleaner, python-updater and the ruby equivalent towards th end, this gets all your modules sync'ed back up with your version of the interpreter.] "Gentoo is not for the faint-hearted" is the quote I think most applies here. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

2017-01-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/01/2017 16:02, John Covici wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:41:59 -0500, > Responses in line. > > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> On 29/01/2017 12:11, John Covici wrote: >>> Hi. I am having a couple of preserved rebuild problems which I have >>> no

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

2017-01-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
can't recall exactly what. I have several times in the past resolved these by brute force, unmerging the problem package and the thing it depends or or links to, then rebuilding both. Are you by chance running a mixed stable/testing system here? > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

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