[gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-05 Thread Dale
I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie guy there had a interesting statement that makes me think I'm not recommending them fo

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-05 Thread Davide De Prisco
Ahahahah... Il giorno 05/lug/2013 22:13, "Dale" ha scritto: > > I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is > getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a > used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie > guy there had a

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-05 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Dale wrote: > > I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is > getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a > used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie > guy there had a interesting stat

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-05 Thread William Kenworthy
On 06/07/13 04:12, Dale wrote: > > I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is > getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a > used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie > guy there had a interesting statement that ma

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-05 Thread Dale
William Kenworthy wrote: > On 06/07/13 04:12, Dale wrote: >> I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is >> getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a >> used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie >> guy there had a i

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-05 Thread the
On 07/06/13 02:21, Dale wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: On 06/07/13 04:12, Dale wrote: I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the tec

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/07/2013 00:21, Dale wrote: > I'm still trying to figure out what he thought he would accomplish tho. > I can't get my head wrapped around that yet. That's easy to answer. The fellow probably doesn't know much. If you want a brilliant example, just go read a wide bunch of threads on the G

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 05 Jul 2013 22:46:10 Paul Hartman wrote: > ... but the person sitting at the keyboard is usually capable of screwing > it up more than any virus. :) Hah! Tell me about it. :-( -- Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-06 Thread Mick
On Saturday 06 Jul 2013 07:57:38 the wrote: > On 07/06/13 02:21, Dale wrote: > > William Kenworthy wrote: > >> On 06/07/13 04:12, Dale wrote: > >>> While we was > >>> chatting, he said that Linux is just as prone to getting a virus as > >>> windoze and so is a Mac. I think my laughing let him kno

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-06 Thread Randolph Maaßen
On Jul 6, 2013 11:13 AM, "Peter Humphrey" wrote: > > On Friday 05 Jul 2013 22:46:10 Paul Hartman wrote: > > > ... but the person sitting at the keyboard is usually capable of screwing > > it up more than any virus. :) > > Hah! Tell me about it. :-( > > -- > Peter > > What I did recently: format an

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-06 Thread shawn wilson
I was present for a discussion about which is the most secure OS. I don't remember the forum but the consensus was that the most secure OS is the one you know. Anyone can wreck a system but not everyone has the ability to maintain a system. I'm not arguing that you can run Windows as tight as Linu

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-06 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 10:50:40AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Technically, he's not wrong - any OS is just as susceptible to viruses > as any other, you just have to get over the first hurdle which is > getting code to run. The overall design of Windows has historically made > this somewhat e

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-06 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 10:12:27AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 05 Jul 2013 22:46:10 Paul Hartman wrote: > > > ... but the person sitting at the keyboard is usually capable of screwing > > it up more than any virus. :) > > Hah! Tell me about it. :-( Ack -- Happy Penguin Computers

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:21:25PM -0500, Dale wrote > Well, no Wine here. So that won't happen. Actually, I don't have a > copy of windoze here at all. Neither of my two rigs have ever had > windoze installed on them at all. > > BTW, I have been known to open those attachments before. I usua

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't missed a virus in the wild since it's inception. Not to start a flamewar on which is the best AV, but I'm curious which one this is?

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread the
On 07/07/13 20:07, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't missed a virus in the wild since it's inception. Not to start a flamewar on which is the best AV, but I'm curious which one this is? I'm curious wh

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-07-07 12:19 PM, the wrote: On 07/07/13 20:07, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't missed a virus in the wild since it's inception. Not to start a flamewar on which is the best AV, but I'm curiou

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Mick
On Sunday 07 Jul 2013 17:19:13 the wrote: > On 07/07/13 20:07, Tanstaafl wrote: > > On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: > >> NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't > >> missed a virus in the wild since it's inception. > > > > Not to start a flamewar on which is th

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 12:07:51PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: > > NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't > > missed a virus in the wild since it's inception. > > Not to start a flamewar on which is the best AV, but I'm curious wh

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 01:15:35PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-07-07 12:19 PM, the wrote: > > On 07/07/13 20:07, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill > >> wrote: > >>> NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't > >>> missed a virus in the wild sinc

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jul 8, 2013 1:05 AM, "Bruce Hill" wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 12:07:51PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't > > > missed a virus in the wild since it's inception. > > > > Not to st

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Alecks Gates
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Jul 8, 2013 1:05 AM, "Bruce Hill" > wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 12:07:51PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: >> > On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill >> > wrote: >> > > NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 01:36:38AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > Oh. My. Goodness! ESET! I *love* that piece of gold :-) > > In fact, I'm still having the glow from the satisfaction of successfully > convincing the management to replace the previous p.o.s. that goes by the > name of "SEP", with

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-07-07 2:04 PM, Bruce Hill wrote: On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 12:07:51PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't missed a virus in the wild since it's inception. Not to start a flamewar on which i

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-08 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:21:25PM -0500, Dale wrote > >> Well, no Wine here. So that won't happen. Actually, I don't have a >> copy of windoze here at all. Neither of my two rigs have ever had >> windoze installed on them at all. >> >> BTW, I have been known to open those

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Dale wrote: > Questions. Can a virus infect the OS when running on Linux through > java/javascript/flash? Or would the infection at the least be limited > to that user? I think how they typically work, on any OS, is they exploit a bug in the browser (or a browser

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/07/2013 15:24, Dale wrote: > Walter Dnes wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:21:25PM -0500, Dale wrote >> >>> Well, no Wine here. So that won't happen. Actually, I don't have a >>> copy of windoze here at all. Neither of my two rigs have ever had >>> windoze installed on them at all. >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-09 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 08:24:03AM -0500, Dale wrote > Questions. Can a virus infect the OS when running on Linux through > java/javascript/flash? There are two levels of "infection"... 1) One-off execution of bad stuff when you visit a web page. 2) A more permanent infection that survives r

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-09 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 08:24:03AM -0500, Dale wrote > >> Questions. Can a virus infect the OS when running on Linux through >> java/javascript/flash? > There are two levels of "infection"... > > 1) One-off execution of bad stuff when you visit a web page. > > 2) A more perm

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-09 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Dale wrote: >> Questions. Can a virus infect the OS when running on Linux through >> java/javascript/flash? Or would the infection at the least be limited >> to that user? > I think how they typically work, on any OS, is they exploit a bug in

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-09 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 08/07/2013 15:24, Dale wrote: >> Walter Dnes wrote: >>> On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:21:25PM -0500, Dale wrote >>> Well, no Wine here. So that won't happen. Actually, I don't have a copy of windoze here at all. Neither of my two rigs have ever had windoze i

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-09 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 08:41:21PM -0500, Dale wrote > OK. I do banking online. I also pay my bills online along with social > sites as well. I use Lastpass so that I can have some really REALLY > funky passwords. I think I am one of few that has not had his facebook > hacked. Anyway, I run G

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-09 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 08:41:21PM -0500, Dale wrote > >> OK. I do banking online. I also pay my bills online along with social >> sites as well. I use Lastpass so that I can have some really REALLY >> funky passwords. I think I am one of few that has not had his facebook >

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-10 Thread Davide De Prisco
If you use a open source system probably you want that the community help you with your security problems and you can help the community with bug finder. Linux is not perfect but it's the best system that the community can write. The community want you. Il giorno 10/lug/2013 06:13, "Dale" ha scrit

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-10 Thread Dale
Davide De Prisco wrote: > > If you use a open source system probably you want that the community > help you with your security problems and you can help the community > with bug finder. Linux is not perfect but it's the best system that > the community can write. The community want you. > I do tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-12 Thread Timur Aydin
On 7/5/2013 11:12 PM, Dale wrote: I since did some googling and it seems I am right and he just thought I was some know nothing guy he could sell some service too. Anyway, has anything changed to make Linux more prone to viruses than it used to be? I read a percentage somewhere that said like 9

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 12.07.2013 18:36, schrieb Timur Aydin: > On 7/5/2013 11:12 PM, Dale wrote: >> I since did some googling and it seems I am right and he just thought I >> was some know nothing guy he could sell some service too. Anyway, has >> anything changed to make Linux more prone to viruses than it used to

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-12 Thread shawn wilson
On Jul 12, 2013 4:32 PM, "Volker Armin Hemmann" wrote: > > Am 12.07.2013 18:36, schrieb Timur Aydin: > > On 7/5/2013 11:12 PM, Dale wrote: > >> I since did some googling and it seems I am right and he just thought I > >> was some know nothing guy he could sell some service too. Anyway, has > >> a