Alan McKinnon wrote:
to build other distros. It is not suitable for newbies (disregard the
occasional newbie that does get it right, that's a minority and very
atypical), and one really does have to have moved beyond the Oh, look!
Shiny installer! mentality to appreciate it. When you get to
On Tuesday 15 January 2008, Eric Martin wrote:
Anybody that feels they *need* or *must have* an official Gentoo
installer is probably the wrong target market and should be
referred to other distros that will suit their needs better. This
is not a troll or an elitist statement, it's just
On Jan 15, 2008 12:48 PM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 15 January 2008, Eric Martin wrote:
Anybody that feels they *need* or *must have* an official Gentoo
installer is probably the wrong target market and should be
referred to other distros that will suit their
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:27:30 +0100, b.n. wrote:
If I can give you an advice: don't create a new livecd from scratch.
Take an Ubuntu, Knoppix or similar live cd, just add these three files
in a /gentoo directory, and re-release it xerox, with just the three
files added and a Gentoo logo
On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:27:30 +0100, b.n. wrote:
If I can give you an advice: don't create a new livecd from
scratch.
Take an Ubuntu, Knoppix or similar live cd, just add these three
files
in a /gentoo directory, and re-release it xerox,
On Jan 14, 2008 10:17 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:27:30 +0100, b.n. wrote:
If I can give you an advice: don't create a new livecd from scratch.
Take an Ubuntu, Knoppix or similar live cd, just add these three files
in a /gentoo directory, and
On Jan 14, 2008 10:39 AM, Cocoy Dayao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
yeah. i agree.
In fact, imho the most perfect gentoo installer is the mini live cd!
what more can anybody need?
would it take much effort to maintain/refresh a mini live cd installer?
Couldn't that be refreshed every couple of
install CD - a CD, which is outdated.
...
hardware where to install it? No. So why do not having an official
livecd makes it incomplete?
Think it the other way. Gentoo is, among other things, a way to install
Linux from any decent Linux live cd. From this point of view, the fact
that
Michael Schmarck schrieb:
· Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Michael Schmarck schrieb:
· Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Right, basicly telling people You have to depend on / use other distros
to install our OS, cause we are not able to / don´t have time to provide
this
· Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:06:39 +0100, b.n. wrote:
Because you don't have to add *anything* to such cd.
-What do you need to install Gentoo? A working Linux live cd with a
terminal and chroot.
-Are a terminal and chroot available on 99.9% of Linux live cds
· Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:35:55 +0100, b.n. wrote:
But i still think a Gentoo-Install-CD/DVD is a good thing.
Any practical reason for that?
It is a lot more comfortable for the first-time installer.
Why's that?
One of the
problems with mixing
Michael Schmarck wrote:
SNIP
How do you get that stuff (the Install CD)? By downloading? Why
can't you download the handbook, snapshot and stage tar ball as
well at that time? And what tools are you talking about? fdisk?
chroot?
SNIP
Michael Schmarck
Actually, I order mine off
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:53:48 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote:
You also need the handbook, a portage snapshot and a stage tarball.
How many live CDs provide these?
None. But the portage snapshot is best fetched from the web
anyway, as far as I'm concerned. Same with the handbook, as
it
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:00:20 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote:
It is a lot more comfortable for the first-time installer.
Why's that?
Because a first-time installer benefits from the confidence given by
using an official install disc.
It also allows you to install without a network
On 2008-01-13 16:29:15 (+), Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:53:48 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote:
You also need the handbook, a portage snapshot and a stage tarball.
How many live CDs provide these?
None. But the portage snapshot is best fetched
2008. 01. 13, vasárnap keltezéssel 17.46-kor Ken Gypen ezt írta:
I agree that Gentoo shouldn't become an Ubuntu like distro, but the
minimal install cd is, at least for me, a requirement.
...
Regards,
Ken
After reading lot of posts regarding install cd, I decided, I
On Jan 13, 2008 7:03 PM, Pongracz Istvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008. 01. 13, vasárnap keltezéssel 17.46-kor Ken Gypen ezt írta:
I agree that Gentoo shouldn't become an Ubuntu like distro, but the
minimal install cd is, at least for me, a requirement.
...
Regards,
2008. 01. 13, vasárnap keltezéssel 19.22-kor Galevsky ezt írta:
I can't help you immediately, but be sure I am going to help you if
you'll still need it in a few months. For me, the key is to keep the
handbook up-to-date. IMHO, it is a must. Having a 2. Choosing the
Right Installation Medium
On Jan 13, 2008 10:03 AM, Pongracz Istvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008. 01. 13, vasárnap keltezéssel 17.46-kor Ken Gypen ezt írta:
I agree that Gentoo shouldn't become an Ubuntu like distro, but the
minimal install cd is, at least for me, a requirement.
...
Regards,
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:15:38 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
1) Boots new hardware well enough to do the install. The current
LiveCD doesn't boot a P5E motherboard so I couldn't do the install on
that machine using it.
It booted on mine, I installed from a 2007.0 install disc.
2) Has networking
On Jan 13, 2008 8:03 PM, Pongracz Istvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I will prepare a project page on my website and I try to create the
first release in some weeks. Probably less, than one, depends on my free
time.
I will send a mail to this list to inform you about the progress :)
Sounds good
On Jan 13, 2008 11:26 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:15:38 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
1) Boots new hardware well enough to do the install. The current
LiveCD doesn't boot a P5E motherboard so I couldn't do the install on
that machine using it.
It booted
Pongracz Istvan ha scritto:
2008. 01. 13, vasárnap keltezéssel 17.46-kor Ken Gypen ezt írta:
I agree that Gentoo shouldn't become an Ubuntu like distro, but the
minimal install cd is, at least for me, a requirement.
...
Regards,
Ken
After reading lot of posts
2008. 01. 14, hétfő keltezéssel 01.27-kor b.n. ezt írta:
If I can give you an advice: don't create a new livecd from scratch.
Take an Ubuntu, Knoppix or similar live cd, just add these three files
in a /gentoo directory, and re-release it xerox, with just the three
files added and a Gentoo
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:29:34 +0100, b.n. wrote:
Moreover, I'd go on to say that the fact Gentoo is installable from
almost every reasonable Linux-based live cd is a defining Gentoo
feature.
It doesn't even need a live CD. I installed Ubuntu when I first got this
laptop, because I needed a
· Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Michael Schmarck schrieb:
· Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Right, basicly telling people You have to depend on / use other distros
to install our OS, cause we are not able to / don´t have time to provide
this sounds a little fishy. It makes Gentoo look
Michael Schmarck ha scritto:
· Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Depends. You're saying, that Gentoo might look to be incomplete, if
it were to rely on other distributions (Live CDs). I'm saying, that
it currently already looks to be incomplete, despite there being a
install CD - a CD, which is
Galevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
tel me how to install Gentoo in that case.
Boot from any Live CD (like GRML) and do the installation from there,
in a chroot.
Michael
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gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
On Jan 11, 2008 12:53 PM, Michael Schmarck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Galevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
tel me how to install Gentoo in that case.
Boot from any Live CD (like GRML) and do the installation from there,
in a chroot.
And you can use any storage media to hold the important
· Galevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Jan 11, 2008 11:02 AM, Michael Schmarck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
As far as I'm concerned, the Gentoo install CD could easily be dropped
without a loss.
Michael
I'll try to make you understand it.
After reading your reply, I've got to say that
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Galevsky wrote:
Yes it is. Portage is not included
Huh? If are talking about installation, then whether the LiveCD carries
portage or not is irrelavent, portage is in the stage tarball you fetch
over the internet.
you depend on other systems that
On Jan 11, 2008 8:08 PM, Michael Schmarck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GRML ? Knoppix ? other LiveCD ? What for, man ?
Oh, quite easy - to install Gentoo. That way, the knowledge of experts
in creating live CDs is leveraged. NIH is not a good point of view, if
you ask me.
Using extra rescue
On Saturday 12 January 2008, Qian Qiao wrote:
I mean dealing with Gentoo components versions sounds sensible
watching GRML/Knoppix/whatever website for a Gentoo
install...surely less.
As I said in the thread earlier, do not bind your mind to the idea
that you need gentoo to install
Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
Gentoo is NOT plug in and go, it is a complex scheme that allows you
to build other distros.
Exactly.
Moreover, I'd go on to say that the fact Gentoo is installable from
almost every reasonable Linux-based live cd is a defining Gentoo
feature. The real Gentoo
On Jan 11, 2008 11:29 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
Gentoo is NOT plug in and go, it is a complex scheme that allows you
to build other distros.
Exactly.
Moreover, I'd go on to say that the fact Gentoo is installable from
almost every reasonable Linux-based
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