Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-17, Dale wrote: > >> I still use Nvidia and use nvidia drivers.  I to run into problems >> on occasion with drivers and kernels.  When you switched from >> Nvidia, what did you switch too? Do you still use drivers you >> install or kernel drivers? > All in-tree

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dale wrote: > I still use Nvidia and use nvidia drivers.  I to run into problems > on occasion with drivers and kernels.  When you switched from > Nvidia, what did you switch too? Do you still use drivers you > install or kernel drivers? All in-tree kernel drivers for integrated

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > > 2) Lack of support for old hardware when running a newer kernels. > > I used to run into this when running nvidia-drivers. > Gentoo-sources would mark a new kernel stable, but my video board > would not be supported by nvidia-drivers versions that were >

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 14:11:21 -, you wrote: > >> ... >> If what you want is access to all upstream longeterm kernel versions, >> then you should be using sys-kernel/vanilla-sources. > > I was not aware of this package. Excatly what

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 17/04/2024 10:10, Michael wrote: I am not sure the assumption "... aging hardware possibly can less and less cope with newer and newer kernels" is correct. As already mentioned newer kernels have both security and bug fixes. As long as you stick with stable gentoo-sources you'll have these

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Grant, On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 14:11:21 -, you wrote: > ... > If what you want is access to all upstream longeterm kernel versions, > then you should be using sys-kernel/vanilla-sources. I was not aware of this package. Excatly what could come in handy, if everything else fails. Thank

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 10:10:56 +0100, you wrote: > On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:26:25 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > ... > > > But, to get back to the beginning of this discussion: if there is a > > > risk that my aging hardware possibly can

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote: > >> ... >> That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" >> kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" >> kernel versions from kernel.org are

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Michael wrote: >> > But, to get back to the beginning of this discussion: if there is a >> > risk that my aging hardware possibly can less and less cope with >> > newer and newer kernels, should I put something like >> > >> >>=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-6.7.0 >> > >> > into

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:37:04 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote: > > ... > > That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" > > kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" > > kernel versions

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Grant, On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote: > ... > That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" > kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" > kernel versions from kernel.org are available as "stable" in > gentoo-sources. > > It is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:26:25 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > Arve, > > > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote: > >> ... > >> Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily > >> available. > > > > I'm sure I don't

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Arve, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote: > >> ... >> Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily available. > > I'm sure I don't understand this: According to "https://www.kernel.org/; > kernel 6.6.27 is "longterm",

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Arve, On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote: > ... > Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily available. I'm sure I don't understand this: According to "https://www.kernel.org/; kernel 6.6.27 is "longterm", but according to "eix" the most recent 6.6.*

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Dale wrote: > I've never understood what is supported long term either.  I use > gentoo-sources.  I've never figured out just how to pick a kernel that > is supposed to be stable for the larger version.  In other words, only > security and bug fixes, no new hardware.  Right now,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-16, Arve Barsnes wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok >> wrote: My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS upstream releases. >>> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok > wrote: >>> My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS >>> upstream releases. >> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just >> looking at the available

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok > wrote: >> > My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS >> > upstream releases. >> >> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just >> looking at the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Jack
On 4/16/24 7:15 AM, Michael wrote: On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:55:20 BST Dale wrote: If you update often, it shouldn't take long answer the questions. If you do like me and don't update often, it may take longer but no more time than it would if you updated often and added all the time

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS > > upstream releases. > > Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just > looking at the available "gentoo-sources" which one is LTS and

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 11:15:07 +0100, you wrote: > ... > > But this brings up two related questions: > > > > 1. Why does Gentoo not somehow mark LTS kernels either in the version > >number or in the slot name? This would make it easier to prevent the > >installation of too

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:55:20 BST Dale wrote: > >> If you update often, it shouldn't take long answer the questions. If >> you do like me and don't update often, it may take longer but no more >> time than it would if you updated often and added all the time >> together. As

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:55:20 BST Dale wrote: > If you update often, it shouldn't take long answer the questions. If > you do like me and don't update often, it may take longer but no more > time than it would if you updated often and added all the time > together. As far as I know, if one

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Monday, 2024-04-15 12:48:34 +0100, you wrote: > >> ... >> Why have you set your /boot to be mounted at boot? > Well, I think, I then just followed the Gentoo Handbook. But I see your > point of saving time which could be better used to successfully

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 10:04:43 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Monday, 2024-04-15 12:48:34 +0100, you wrote: > > ... > > Why have you set your /boot to be mounted at boot? > > Well, I think, I then just followed the Gentoo Handbook. But I see your > point of saving time which

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Monday, 2024-04-15 12:48:34 +0100, you wrote: > ... > Why have you set your /boot to be mounted at boot? Well, I think, I then just followed the Gentoo Handbook. But I see your point of saving time which could be better used to successfully unmount the "/home/" partition. I'll

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-15 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 14 April 2024 19:41:41 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Greetings, > > On Friday, 2024-01-05 18:46:09 +0100, I myself wrote: > > ... > > since a few month or so off and on my laptop fails to resume from hiber- > > nation due to the "dirty bit" being set on the ext4 "/home" partition. >

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-14 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Greetings, On Friday, 2024-01-05 18:46:09 +0100, I myself wrote: > ... > since a few month or so off and on my laptop fails to resume from hiber- > nation due to the "dirty bit" being set on the ext4 "/home" partition. I was reading this flickering by on the screen, and it wasn't quite cor-