Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2016-01-01 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
Den 19. des. 2015 01:01, skrev Dale: ... > It sounds like the heads are doing random > reads/writes and the heads are moving but doing so noisily. Thing is, > there is no drive activity according to gkrellm or iotop. All the > drives should be basically idle. ... > Model=ST3000DM001 What kind o

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 08:28:30 +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I think USB 3.0 is cheaper and more common. > > Only seen the occasional eSATA port on laptops and afaik, eSATA > > requires a seperate powersupply. USB can supply the power for the > > drive as well. > USB hard drives, in my experie

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-20 Thread Thomas Mueller
> I think USB 3.0 is cheaper and more common. > Only seen the occasional eSATA port on laptops and afaik, eSATA requires a > seperate powersupply. USB can supply the power for the drive as well. > Joost USB hard drives, in my experience, come with and require AC power adapter, are not powered b

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-19 Thread wabenbau
"J. Roeleveld" wrote: > >Since about three years I'm using four 3TB WD red HDs as storage > >drives > > > >and I bought two more some months ago. No failures with all of these > >drives so far. > > > >-- > >Regards > >wabe > > I've got 16 3TB WD Reds running 24/7 for a little over 3 years. > O

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-19 Thread covici
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 2:56 AM, wrote: > > > > I was never able to get either zfs or btrfs to work correctly, zfs was > > very vulnerable -- I forgot to export a zfs on a usb drive and got an > > enless loop of processes untill I rebooted. Btrfs never did work for > > me

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-19 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, December 19, 2015 08:02:12 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 5:12 AM, Thomas Mueller > > wrote: > > Now I am considering an external hard drive with eSATA, more suitable for > > OS installation (Linux, NetBSD, FreeBSD, Haiku?) than USB 3.0. Only > > brand I find is Mi

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-19 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, December 19, 2015 10:12:22 AM Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I've got 16 3TB WD Reds running 24/7 for a little over 3 years. > > Only had 1 failure (Smart complaining) in that time. > > > > I find that decent odds. > > > > Joost > > I bought a WD Green 3 TB hard drive in May 2011, warran

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 2:56 AM, wrote: > > I was never able to get either zfs or btrfs to work correctly, zfs was > very vulnerable -- I forgot to export a zfs on a usb drive and got an > enless loop of processes untill I rebooted. Btrfs never did work for > me, I created a pool, copied my roo

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 5:12 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > Now I am considering an external hard drive with eSATA, more suitable for OS > installation (Linux, NetBSD, FreeBSD, Haiku?) than USB 3.0. Only brand I > find is Micronet Fantom (GForce), or use Seagate NAS hard drive in an > enclosure

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-19 Thread Thomas Mueller
> I've got 16 3TB WD Reds running 24/7 for a little over 3 years. > Only had 1 failure (Smart complaining) in that time. > I find that decent odds. > Joost I bought a WD Green 3 TB hard drive in May 2011, warranty was then 3 years. It went bad with errors after 34 months. I was able to get a

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-19 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 19 December 2015 04:05:25 CET, waben...@gmail.com wrote: >Dale wrote: > >> I think I'm leery of all drives now. I've had WDs fail, Seagate and >> some other brand. I just keep buying bad stuff. :-( I'm glad I >> don't have to buy pacemakers. :/ > >It seems that many many years ago HDs w

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread covici
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Dale wrote: > > > > I also found this after the reply from Ian. > > > > https://www.backblaze.com/blog/3tb-hard-drive-failure/ > > > > No wonder they had it on sale. Heck, why didn't they just say it was a > > good door stop instead of a ha

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread John Runyon
> The thing is, EVERY manufacturer has had drives like these.  Well, the Hitachi drives Backblaze goes on about would be an exception you've clearly never heard of DeathStars if you think Hitachi is an exception... -John Sent from my phone Rich Freeman wrote: >On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 7:49 PM,

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Dale wrote: > > I also found this after the reply from Ian. > > https://www.backblaze.com/blog/3tb-hard-drive-failure/ > > No wonder they had it on sale. Heck, why didn't they just say it was a > good door stop instead of a hard drive??? > Yeah, the only reason I

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread Ian Bloss
When I get a chance next time I'm at work I'll attach a link to the piles of dead seagates I've been collecting for target practice. On Fri, Dec 18, 2015, 22:09 wrote: > Ian Bloss wrote: > > > I've had more Seagates die over time than any other brand, I would > > recommend getting your money b

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread wabenbau
Ian Bloss wrote: > I've had more Seagates die over time than any other brand, I would > recommend getting your money back asap and finding another brand. > > I work IT at a school and we no longer purchase seagate drives for > their failure rate. A friend of mine is using Seagate ES drives sinc

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread wabenbau
Dale wrote: > I think I'm leery of all drives now. I've had WDs fail, Seagate and > some other brand. I just keep buying bad stuff. :-( I'm glad I > don't have to buy pacemakers. :/ It seems that many many years ago HDs were more reliable then today. I have five 4GB IBM SCSI HDs and one

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I finally got a new 3TB hard drive. I got one on sale for under $100. > Anyway, I put it in, did the LVM thing and set up my backup script, very > basic as it is. A little bit ago, I noticed a sound. It's not a click > or a metallic type sound. It sounds like the heads

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread Ian Bloss
If it's under warranty you can return it because it's clicking. You just have to be "persuasive"... On Fri, Dec 18, 2015, 20:16 Dale wrote: > Adam Carter wrote: > > See if SMART knows anything - run this against each drive (change $DRV > > to sda etc each time) > > > > smartctl -a /dev/$DRV | eg

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread Dale
Adam Carter wrote: > See if SMART knows anything - run this against each drive (change $DRV > to sda etc each time) > > smartctl -a /dev/$DRV | egrep > '(^ID|Reallocated_Sector_C|Reported_Uncorrectable_Er|Command_Timeout|Current_Pending_Sect|Offline_Uncorre)' It's currently running the test on mo

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread Dale
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Dale wrote: > >> >> That would likely work. I've also used a water hose to do that on >> cars. I'm not sure how well that will work since the drives are only >> like a inch apart. With the screwdriver I might even be able to feel >> it. It's not very loud but I c

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread covici
Dale wrote: > Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > On 19/12/15 08:01, Dale wrote: > >> Howdy, > >> > >> I finally got a new 3TB hard drive. I got one on sale for under $100. > >> Anyway, I put it in, did the LVM thing and set up my backup script, very > >> basic as it is. A little bit ago, I noticed a so

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread Adam Carter
See if SMART knows anything - run this against each drive (change $DRV to sda etc each time) smartctl -a /dev/$DRV | egrep '(^ID|Reallocated_Sector_C|Reported_Uncorrectable_Er|Command_Timeout|Current_Pending_Sect|Offline_Uncorre)'

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread Dale
Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On 19/12/15 08:01, Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I finally got a new 3TB hard drive. I got one on sale for under $100. >> Anyway, I put it in, did the LVM thing and set up my backup script, very >> basic as it is. A little bit ago, I noticed a sound. It's not a click >> or

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread Ian Bloss
I've had more Seagates die over time than any other brand, I would recommend getting your money back asap and finding another brand. I work IT at a school and we no longer purchase seagate drives for their failure rate. On Fri, Dec 18, 2015, 19:41 Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On 19/12/15 08:01, Dale

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 19/12/15 08:01, Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I finally got a new 3TB hard drive. I got one on sale for under $100. > Anyway, I put it in, did the LVM thing and set up my backup script, very > basic as it is. A little bit ago, I noticed a sound. It's not a click > or a metallic type sound. It s

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread Dale
Ian Bloss wrote: > > Is it a seagate? > > It would be a Seagate, yes. From SMART: === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 (AF) Device Model: ST3000DM001-1ER166 You know some history on this thing? Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread Ian Bloss
Is it a seagate? On Fri, Dec 18, 2015, 19:02 Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I finally got a new 3TB hard drive. I got one on sale for under $100. > Anyway, I put it in, did the LVM thing and set up my backup script, very > basic as it is. A little bit ago, I noticed a sound. It's not a click > or a

[gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread Dale
Howdy, I finally got a new 3TB hard drive. I got one on sale for under $100. Anyway, I put it in, did the LVM thing and set up my backup script, very basic as it is. A little bit ago, I noticed a sound. It's not a click or a metallic type sound. It sounds like the heads are doing random reads